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Alias 6322A
Posted - 2010.12.01 04:55:00 - [1]
 

This would obviously take a ton of effort to implement (see apocrypha!) but here goes:

Tech III ships added a new customizable dimension to EVE in that T3 ships look different from one another due to subsystems. The age-old request of player skins has always been shot down because of the immense amount of memory required to store this on a game like EVE. (Before I go further, I'm not computer savvy so sorry if my vocabulary isn't advanced enough.)

What if Tech III could be expanded to Strategic Frigates? Or Battlecruisers? Battleships seem to be spread around enough as it is, but hey why not?, but I personally think battlecruisers (possibly the most used PvP ship class?) would benefit the most from this.

THE POINT

Tech III is really cool and, as we can see now, they aren't outrageously expensive to get a hold of anymore. Additional tech III ships would expand many different fields, not just one: PvE and PvP would see a new (customizable) ship class for all four races, an expansion in manufacturing possibilities, and an additional demand for WH activity. The best part? You pseudo-solve the skin problem in that players feel like they get more options on their ships beyond modules...the original reason why the current T3 ships are so cool!

T3 should always remain a more expensive option to Tech II and Tech I ships of course, which are more single-purpose in their build. The most important thing is that you don't reduce the usefulness of Tech I and Tech II ships as a cheaper (if not more effective in certain cases) option. But I think the "concept" behind Tech III ships for apocrypha holds incredible potential for other ship hulls in the future. As a side note, you could even try this idea on industrials or mining ships? Sacrifice some mining capability for a more defendable mining barge? An ewar style setup for transports in low/null? Like I've been saying, T3 holds lots of potential in literally any ship class!

FINAL THOUGHT

This would be very intriguing to see for those that live in big corps and alliances: Tech III capitals. I personally have no experience in big fleet battles, but I wonder if adding a new layer of customization to your capitals would make fleet battles more interesting and strategic in design? How many different ways can you (effectively) build a carrier now for example? Capitals could be more flexible in their roles with a Tech III design, but again I dunno if that would be good or not.

Just an idea...which this forum is for. Opinions?

Cryocasm
Task Force A.S.T.E.R.O.I.D
Posted - 2010.12.01 05:05:00 - [2]
 

T3 Frigates - Sure whatever.

T3 Battlecruisers - I think they are solid as is, so this wouldn't be too necessary.

T3 Battleships - Depends really, if the subsystems stray away from Black Ops and Marauder roles, then those two classes of Advanced Battleships may not be completely dispurposed by work around of the T3. Yet, it depends, if the T3 includes the ability to mount a Siege Module (Triage/Dreadnought Siege) and Capital Guns, I'm all for it. I would be a bit intrigued to see a T3 BS Mini-Carrier.

T3 Capitals - Nah. Carrier/Dreadnought already have the small scales covered. Unless this hull can be repurposed from Carrier to Dreadnought to Destroyer. Yes, I have a craving for a capital ship destroyer, one that is slightly differently purposed then the dreadnought. Nearly no damage to POS, all damage to other ships.

Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
Posted - 2010.12.01 08:34:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 01/12/2010 08:34:31
Originally by: Cryocasm
...repurposed from Carrier to Dreadnought to Destroyer. Yes, I have a craving for a capital ship destroyer, one that is slightly differently purposed then the dreadnought. Nearly no damage to POS, all damage to other ships.


Aren't they called Titans? :P

Seriously, I think T3 frigates are already in the works, it's only logical.
T3 Battlecruisers wouldn't be logical until we get T2 battlecruisers
T3 Battleships will propably follow with/after frigates. Like Strategic Cruisers, they should have some unique perks, they should be modular, but they shouldn't be as good in a single role as a T2 counterpart.

E.g. you should be able to make a T3 'black-ops' - but it shouldn't be as good as the T2 variant.

Boinz
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.01 09:58:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Boinz on 01/12/2010 09:58:19
Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 01/12/2010 08:34:31
Originally by: Cryocasm
...repurposed from Carrier to Dreadnought to Destroyer. Yes, I have a craving for a capital ship destroyer, one that is slightly differently purposed then the dreadnought. Nearly no damage to POS, all damage to other ships.


Aren't they called Titans? :P

Seriously, I think T3 frigates are already in the works, it's only logical.
T3 Battlecruisers wouldn't be logical until we get T2 battlecruisers
T3 Battleships will propably follow with/after frigates. Like Strategic Cruisers, they should have some unique perks, they should be modular, but they shouldn't be as good in a single role as a T2 counterpart.

E.g. you should be able to make a T3 'black-ops' - but it shouldn't be as good as the T2 variant.


You obviously havent heard of command ships

Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
Posted - 2010.12.01 10:25:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Boinz
Edited by: Boinz on 01/12/2010 09:58:19
Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 01/12/2010 08:34:31
Originally by: Cryocasm
...repurposed from Carrier to Dreadnought to Destroyer. Yes, I have a craving for a capital ship destroyer, one that is slightly differently purposed then the dreadnought. Nearly no damage to POS, all damage to other ships.


Aren't they called Titans? :P

Seriously, I think T3 frigates are already in the works, it's only logical.
T3 Battlecruisers wouldn't be logical until we get T2 battlecruisers
T3 Battleships will propably follow with/after frigates. Like Strategic Cruisers, they should have some unique perks, they should be modular, but they shouldn't be as good in a single role as a T2 counterpart.

E.g. you should be able to make a T3 'black-ops' - but it shouldn't be as good as the T2 variant.


You obviously havent heard of command ships

command... ships?

Ok, I go be embarrassed now.

That ship has such a huge dedicated skill req that I completely forgot about it.

HeliosGal
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.01 11:23:00 - [6]
 

all of youre ideas are good but ccps focus just isnt there at the moment.

Infinity Ziona
Minmatar
Cloakers
Posted - 2010.12.01 11:33:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 01/12/2010 11:33:57
If they added T3 Battleships I would subscribe for 5 years straight and make love to any CCP Dev that wanted it.

T3 battleship would be the filler between battleships and capitals as theres a massive capability gap between two classes.

Anywayz...

HeliosGal
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.01 11:42:00 - [8]
 

ziona and hence ccp decided not to do it

Zarnak Wulf
Posted - 2010.12.01 13:23:00 - [9]
 

T3 frigates? CCP would have a riot if it tried to role out new small craft. EAF are broken. AF are broken. Destroyers are broken. All of those need to be fixed before CCP even thinks about a T3 frigate.

T3 Battlecruisers? Not enough variety and T3 cruisers already encompass the command modules if desired.

T3 Battleships? Take a look at how CCP did the T2 Battleships. Black Ops. Marauder. Both are niche vessels. They didn't want people having heavy assault battleships or the like.

T3 capitals? Sounds like an invitation for a Titan driveby.

CCP needs to focus on fixing things like the small ships mentioned above, hybrids, low sec, dominion features, faction warfare, ect.

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.01 13:49:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
T3 frigates? CCP would have a riot if it tried to role out new small craft. EAF are broken. AF are broken. Destroyers are broken. All of those need to be fixed before CCP even thinks about a T3 frigate.


I agree with this guy.

The frigate range is ridiculously saturated as things stand now, introducing massively customisable T3 frigates to the mix would only serve to make the existing ships even less desirable.


 

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