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Templar Nato
Unlawful Combatants
Posted - 2011.02.24 20:10:00 - [481]
 

Originally by: Svipull
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Wait.. I thought they gave up on pretending they were doing it to kill botters?

Yes, long ago. What I'm pointing out is that they are actually breeding more botters now.


rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble ...


Why do we care about bots and changing game mechanics? Oh yeah, that's right ... we don't.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.25 01:34:00 - [482]
 

Another hatemail:

Chatlog removed as per the forum rules.StevieSG

Victoria Wolfe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.25 01:57:00 - [483]
 

I think part of the problem consists of people perceiving High Sec space as they would a PVE server in WoW when in reality there is no place in EVE that is free from the potential of PVP.

High Sec is simply PVP space that has a defense force (CONCORD) that will react to, not prevent, criminal actions. This reaction is typically enough to act as a deterrent against crime, however combine immortality and fabulous prizes and there is no more deterrent! Very Happy

Anyway, it's best to think of High Sec as you would a modern society. The police are there and they will deal with criminals, but they will always be reactionary. The crime will be committed before they respond, and thus you are always vulnerable to attack. Therefore you should always undock your ship with the assumption that you could, at any moment for any reason, be attacked, regardless of where you are, who you are, or what you are doing.


Kengutsi Akira
Posted - 2011.02.25 05:35:00 - [484]
 

Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 25/02/2011 05:38:47
wooo grifergeddon up to 184
go guys go!

2643 to HAG

and the above should always be true

Pehk Mak'mel'ahma
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
Posted - 2011.02.25 07:13:00 - [485]
 

Edited by: Pehk Mak''mel''ahma on 25/02/2011 08:45:59
Originally by: Victoria Wolfe
I think part of the problem consists of people perceiving High Sec space as they would a PVE server in WoW when in reality there is no place in EVE that is free from the potential of PVP.

High Sec is simply PVP space that has a defense force (CONCORD) that will react to, not prevent, criminal actions. This reaction is typically enough to act as a deterrent against crime, however combine immortality and fabulous prizes and there is no more deterrent! Very Happy

Anyway, it's best to think of High Sec as you would a modern society. The police are there and they will deal with criminals, but they will always be reactionary. The crime will be committed before they respond, and thus you are always vulnerable to attack. Therefore you should always undock your ship with the assumption that you could, at any moment for any reason, be attacked, regardless of where you are, who you are, or what you are doing.




Adding to the analogy, you would never go out in public with something very expensive or irreplacable that can be easily taken from you. Same with EVE Online. Fly only what you can afford to lose and make sure your clone is always updated.

Pehk

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2011.02.25 21:04:00 - [486]
 

Hello my dear friends,

We are now entering the final weekend of hulkageddon 4!
There are still plenty of achievements to compete for to win fabulous prizes!

Let's try to hit 200bil in damages donw before 0:00 server time this sunday :D

You can check out the current list of prizes here: Hulkageddon prize list

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.02.26 00:16:00 - [487]
 


Templar Nato
Unlawful Combatants
Posted - 2011.02.26 01:04:00 - [488]
 

Wow, that is one pointless Youtube link.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.02.26 01:06:00 - [489]
 

Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 26/02/2011 01:06:46
Originally by: Templar Nato
Wow, that is one pointless Youtube link.


its the map with ships killed in the last 24 hrs on...
pointless? only if you tink killing ppl is pointless... to each his own I guess

ah poop lol didnt know it cause me listening to the radio too >.< thought it was just in game sound
bah I never use fraps >.<

Shieko Chan
Posted - 2011.02.26 01:44:00 - [490]
 

Quote:
??? Who posted a chatlog? I composed a 'hatemail' to all these Hulkageddon participants for griefing me for the last week by refusing to shoot at me and forcing me to mine.


it's sad when griefers have to write their own hate-mail to get enough "tears".

Lien Sekari
Posted - 2011.02.26 16:57:00 - [491]
 

Edited by: Lien Sekari on 26/02/2011 16:58:55
Edited by: Lien Sekari on 26/02/2011 16:57:51
I have two questions that have been on my mind since I first heard of Hulkageddon

1. What is the problem miners have to do something else for a week or two if mining is what they usually do all the time anyway?

2. Why do PvPers/Pirates have so much anger towards people who mine or run missions.

I'd be sincerely interested in people answering those questions honestly.

Disclaimer: I don't mine or do much industry apart from replacing my ammo and ships. I do missions, scan for plexes and hunt people in lowsec, but I have never shot at an industrial ship or miner because I have this (maybe misplaced) military mindset of not engaging civilians.
I don't hate pirates or griefers, and I don't hate miners either. I do wonder why others have such attitudes.

Scarry Peak
Posted - 2011.02.26 17:29:00 - [492]
 

Originally by: Lien Sekari
Edited by: Lien Sekari on 26/02/2011 16:58:55
Edited by: Lien Sekari on 26/02/2011 16:57:51
I have two questions that have been on my mind since I first heard of Hulkageddon

1. What is the problem miners have to do something else for a week or two if mining is what they usually do all the time anyway?

2. Why do PvPers/Pirates have so much anger towards people who mine or run missions
.


I suspect an answer to (1) for the non-bots is that they have chosen not to train up skills for missioning or PI or R&D or have minimal skills and so the prospect of the time to beef those up may be a factor. I was chatting with an ex corpie who was exactly in that boat - each to their own!

re: (2) again another ex corpie loves the PVP side and a little pirating and he waatient enough with me and my industrialist ways but every now and again would lecture me about "having" to learn PVP. We got dec-ed recently so I got my alts to buy PVP module skillbooks and got enough to fit up a fugly looking PVP ship that would have no doubt got kicked fro here to WOW!!!

I think it's down to: what you want to do in the game, what you have TIME to do in the game, and crucially can you get your mind around the fact that if you "lose" a ship it's not the end of the world. Game time faff, yes - absolutely - but I guess both sides (miners and pirates) feel their game play is right.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.26 20:29:00 - [493]
 

Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 27/02/2011 17:29:33
Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 27/02/2011 00:18:26
Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 26/02/2011 23:53:16
Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 26/02/2011 23:11:38
Hmmm. I spoke too soon (I was praising Minmatar pirates for having the stones to engage.) Many more hours of mining in my hulk in Abudban and Osoggur (0.5, right next to Amamake) and no more gank attempts.

I'll be in Balle for the next few hours (until 23:45) if you're interested.

The "Searching for Pirates with Balls" Tour continues in Uedama at 01:30

Kengutsi Akira
Posted - 2011.02.26 20:40:00 - [494]
 

Yo, Helicity, you guys should make a special award for these guys:

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1443065

especially for how badass they feel they are for standing up to you guys lol

Montgomery Crabapple
Posted - 2011.02.27 00:14:00 - [495]
 

Orca + 2 x Hulk v Drake + Typhoon. I don't know what this guy was trying to do. He targeted the Orca, with its 1/4 million EHP, rather than the Hulks, which were able to escape. So all in all it was a bit of a fail, as he popped to Concord before he's even managed to drop the Orca's shields 3k. I felt sorry for him, as I was looting his wreck :(.

Templar Nato
Unlawful Combatants
Posted - 2011.02.27 02:05:00 - [496]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 26/02/2011 01:06:46
Originally by: Templar Nato
Wow, that is one pointless Youtube link.


its the map with ships killed in the last 24 hrs on...
pointless? only if you tink killing ppl is pointless... to each his own I guess



Ships killed =/= Exhumers killed, therefore the map is pointless. If I wanted to look that up I can see it in game without having to watch a crappy quality video.

Your argument is invalid. Thank you for playing.

Kengutsi Akira
Posted - 2011.02.27 03:38:00 - [497]
 

Originally by: Templar Nato
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 26/02/2011 01:06:46
Originally by: Templar Nato
Wow, that is one pointless Youtube link.


its the map with ships killed in the last 24 hrs on...
pointless? only if you tink killing ppl is pointless... to each his own I guess



Ships killed =/= Exhumers killed, therefore the map is pointless. If I wanted to look that up I can see it in game without having to watch a crappy quality video.

Your argument is invalid. Thank you for playing.


k, to make your point valid, hulkageddon would hve to be ONLY targetting Hulks (which theyre not), ther would have to be no greifergeddon (caused by hulkageddon) and youd have to tell me how you show last hulks destroyed in 24 hrs (irrelevant because thats not the only ship being killed).

Oh... thanks for playing.

Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.02.27 18:05:00 - [498]
 

Originally by: Helicity Boson
before 0:00 server time this sunday :D


You mean 2359 sunday, 0000 monday.

Mucous
Posted - 2011.02.27 18:09:00 - [499]
 

I completely endorse this event, I only wish it would run months at a time.

That being said you guys have completely missed the Outuni system (only 4 jps from Jita). It routinely has 50 plus at the ice belt.
I don't even believe the macros slowed down when Hulkageddon started.

Keep up the good work.

CCP Adida


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.27 21:50:00 - [500]
 

Removed conversations of military politics. This thread is not about how the military is run or your political views of it.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.02.27 22:51:00 - [501]
 

Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 27/02/2011 22:57:06
so... sunday 0000 Iceland is what Eastern lol 19:00?

eh, nvm Im betting some will keep it up not for the prizes but "for the lulz" lol

Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.28 02:28:00 - [502]
 

Amazing event. We livestreamed our final gank (http://chinx.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=9108) outside Jita 4-4 that occurred right under the noses of our WT's (The 0rphanage), was fun as hell, we laughed like maniacs. Thanks for arranging for this Helicity!

Zedrik Cayne
Gallente
Standards and Practices
Posted - 2011.02.28 04:31:00 - [503]
 

As the only staff for Hulkageddon who is awake at the moment (Okay..I am the only staff that Hulkageddon has)...Thank you all for participating.

It looks like the killboard api fetch has been stopped. So what is going to count, is sitting safely in Helicity's databases.

Preliminary stats:

843 Exhumers Down for a total of 159.5 billion isk in damages.
504 Industrial ships Down (Noctii are in this category) for 18.6 billion
674 Mining Barges Down for 10.7 billion isk.
30 Transports for 7.5 billion isk.
1 Jump Freighter for 5.5 billion isk.
6 Orcas down for 2.4 billion isk.
2 Freighters for 1.5 billion isk.
1 Rorqual down for 1.8 billion isk.
1357 Capsules destroyed, that's a lot of scrambled eggs.

That's a total of 2061 ganks reported to us.. for a whopping total of 207.5 billion isk worth of ships destroyed and items dropped. (Numbers are approximate depending on possibly one last API pull to catch anything up to that last minute..)

Winners should be able to be determined tomorrow/whenever Helicity gets around to it since we don't have to go and verify every kill mail again. I'd have a preliminary prize report except Helicity doesn't let me near the DB Twisted Evil


fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.02.28 04:50:00 - [504]
 

Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
As the only staff for Hulkageddon who is awake at the moment (Okay..I am the only staff that Hulkageddon has)...Thank you all for participating.

It looks like the killboard api fetch has been stopped. So what is going to count, is sitting safely in Helicity's databases.

Preliminary stats:

843 Exhumers Down for a total of 159.5 billion isk in damages.
504 Industrial ships Down (Noctii are in this category) for 18.6 billion
674 Mining Barges Down for 10.7 billion isk.
30 Transports for 7.5 billion isk.
1 Jump Freighter for 5.5 billion isk.
6 Orcas down for 2.4 billion isk.
2 Freighters for 1.5 billion isk.
1 Rorqual down for 1.8 billion isk.
1357 Capsules destroyed, that's a lot of scrambled eggs.

That's a total of 2061 ganks reported to us.. for a whopping total of 207.5 billion isk worth of ships destroyed and items dropped. (Numbers are approximate depending on possibly one last API pull to catch anything up to that last minute..)

Winners should be able to be determined tomorrow/whenever Helicity gets around to it since we don't have to go and verify every kill mail again. I'd have a preliminary prize report except Helicity doesn't let me near the DB Twisted Evil




congrats on killing less with your event. good call on the api, slowly killing it

Manyakol Dotcom
Posted - 2011.02.28 05:14:00 - [505]
 

YEHAYYY Almost 200 billion

CCP Win lots of people will buy GTC/PLEX coz lots of poeple lost ISK

NOBODY win in this EVENT but CCP ahahahahahahahahahhaahhaha

Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil Arrow in CCP's mind



Crux Croupier Locutus
Posted - 2011.02.28 07:10:00 - [506]
 

Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
1357 Capsules destroyed, that's a lot of scrambled eggs.


evil gasm Twisted Evil

Kushan
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
Posted - 2011.02.28 07:42:00 - [507]
 

I wish there was some kind of notification when you pod someone with an insufficient clone. Well, aside from the deluge of hatemail you are likely to receive.

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2011.02.28 09:26:00 - [508]
 

Running a final manual killmail pull now, then I'll remove unrelated kills and kills after the deadline \o/


Ziaxi
Posted - 2011.02.28 09:49:00 - [509]
 

Originally by: fgft Athonille
congrats on killing less with your event. good call on the api, slowly killing it
congrats on being mentally ill Shocked

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2011.02.28 10:29:00 - [510]
 

After the final pull and cleanup, I end up with:


Rorqual: l
Capsule: 1393
Exhumer: 864
Freighter: 2
Industrial: 506
Orca: 6
Jump Freighter: 1
Mining barge: 676
Transport: 30
Echelon: 1

3480 Ships killed (212.77B ISK)

Note that noctis is counted as an industrial in the eve database.

I'm very pleased with the result!

Even with two months notice, and the scary new thing of API posting, thousands grace our killboard. It seems people do not learn ;)



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