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Fuzzy Weeze
The United Snakes
Posted - 2010.11.25 10:18:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Fuzzy Weeze on 25/11/2010 13:39:09
I have just finished a 2 billion isk loan and I am seeking more in order to expand my trading.

About me
I Currently have about 3 billion in trades and about 1.5 billion in assets, including 200m on my alt, Those willing to invest will know who my alt is because there is occasional transactions back and forth with him. I am currently moving LO, Ships and T2 modules between regions. I am interested in minor production and including t2 ships in my sales.

Loan
I would like to receive 4 to 10 billion from only a few investors, at which I will repay at 12.5% interest until either
A.) You chose to withdraw, in which I will need 5 days to Complete and you will get a pro-rated interest.
B.) I pay you back in full, (plus interest)
Otherwise I will be paying you 12.5% of Your investment back every month.

Audit
I am interested in receiving an audit for my last month of market activity by a qualified auditor in which you can suggest, Someone you all deem credible and is willing to do it.

Here is my api pull screenshot for November's Profit from www.eveprofit.com
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1160/novemberprofit.jpg

Anything I should add or include I am open to comments but please do not troll me as a scammer. I am new to this process and probably horrible at it but I am trying my best to be up front and honest about everything.

Collateral: I have no collateral to offer at this time.

Edit: Terms A and B needed more clarification
Edit: Former loan thread: Former Loan


Punker Adagear
Posted - 2010.11.25 11:21:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Punker Adagear on 25/11/2010 11:35:45
Im interested in this but have a few reservations.
Do you offer any collateral and a 3rd party?
A link to your previous loan.

mail me in game and we'll disuss

athlhas
Caldari
Atlantis Industrial
Atlantis Primae
Posted - 2010.11.25 13:28:00 - [3]
 

Hi,

After we happily ended the former loan, newly I do agree with your terms and conditions and will send the money in game. You can post a picture of your wallet once received, so everybody can see it is real.

So i will lend you 4 billions isk.

Fuzzy Weeze
The United Snakes
Posted - 2010.11.25 13:44:00 - [4]
 

Isk Recieved from Athlhas

Liberty Eternal
Posted - 2010.11.25 13:51:00 - [5]
 

Well, that seemed legitimate.

egola
Amarr
Posted - 2010.11.25 14:43:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: egola on 25/11/2010 14:43:40
for the sake of actual posts you might make ( you know one that isn't with your alt) i would say to hire an auditor and have them make a publicly available audit while ommiting goods and other traded items of course.

saying you will get an audit done and ACTUALLY getting it done are two completely separate matter

Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
Posted - 2010.11.25 15:34:00 - [7]
 

Your loan lasted a full month, why would you want to terminate it if you want even more money? You made around a 20% return in a month on 5 billion (3b in trades + 2b loan), that's not bad, but do you expect that you'll be able to attain the same profit margin with a 40-160% increase in trading capital?

Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2010.11.26 00:08:00 - [8]
 

1) Link to prior loan please
2) How many alts do you have?
3) How do you pay for your alt accounts?
4) Will want to see a full audit. Have other questions but a properly done *full* audit will answer them or give me the means to answer them myself.

Going from a 2bil to a 10bil loan is an incredible jump.

Fuzzy Weeze
The United Snakes
Posted - 2010.11.26 02:00:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Taram Caldar
1) Link to prior loan please
2) How many alts do you have?
3) How do you pay for your alt accounts?
4) Will want to see a full audit. Have other questions but a properly done *full* audit will answer them or give me the means to answer them myself.

Going from a 2bil to a 10bil loan is an incredible jump.


1.) Link is in First post (linked)
2.) I have 1 active alt at the moment
3.) Alt and this character is payed via Visa
4.) Would like to get a full audit done, Please make suggestions on who can do it respectfully.

Yes Going from 2 bill to 10 is quite a jump but I have a few Ideas on how to make this work properly.

Rykker Bow
Posted - 2010.11.26 02:12:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Rykker Bow on 26/11/2010 02:14:50
It's great you found a single investor in your 2 loans but I hope you understand that if you come back to the table with another bond/loan looking to procure a more diverse investor pool, you will most likely be battling an uphill fight. These two loans of yours has done nothing but set off red flags in my head.

The biggest of which atm is the question of alts and seperate accounts you have.

The other problems I see are those of the large increase between bonds, a character with no background info, the quick launch of a second loan/bond and the lack of business plan info.

Your first bond attempt seemed to fall apart with one notable quotes; the thread can be viewed below. I'm also assuming this is the break point between your first bond and receiving the funds from athlhan in the loan thread in October:
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1387433/page/1#1

Originally by: Fuzzy Weeze
I have recieved a 2 billion isk Loan at 15% and plan on getting an audit around the 25th of November. Thanks for all of the constructive criticism, I am just trying to build my e-credit so that I can fund further more lucrative business ventures.

Are you still planning on getting an audit around the 25th of November? You claim to be trying to build your 'e-credit' in which case you should have started with an audit your first time around. This will be the second loan/bond without an audit. You claim an audit will be around the 25th. What has been done to make this audit happen apart from setting a date?

Rykker Bow
Posted - 2010.11.26 04:50:00 - [11]
 

you claim a NAV of 18 billion in you 9/21/2010 post (linked above) with this statement:
Originally by: Fuzzy Weeze
I have been shadowing a large alliance and seeding their market now for 12 months and have been able to convert 5 billion into 18 in the last 6 months.

And a NAV of ~4.5 billion in this thread. What happened to the 13.5 billion?
Originally by: Fuzzy Weeze
About me
I Currently have about 3 billion in trades and about 1.5 billion in assets, including 200m on my alt, Those willing to invest will know who my alt is because there is occasional transactions back and forth with him. I am currently moving LO, Ships and T2 modules between regions. I am interested in minor production and including t2 ships in my sales.


Fuzzy Weeze
The United Snakes
Posted - 2010.11.26 04:53:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Rykker Bow

Are you still planning on getting an audit around the 25th of November? You claim to be trying to build your 'e-credit' in which case you should have started with an audit your first time around. This will be the second loan/bond without an audit. You claim an audit will be around the 25th. What has been done to make this audit happen apart from setting a date?



I would still Like to get an audit done, if you are an auditor please step up to the plate and stop bashing my threads. If you know an auditor please suggest him in this thread. I have no intention on scamming anyone, I am trying to be as open as possible while being new to MD forum. So any criticism is welcomed but please be constructive.

Krythas
Posted - 2010.11.26 05:09:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Krythas on 26/11/2010 05:11:20
Originally by: Fuzzy Weeze
Originally by: Rykker Bow

Are you still planning on getting an audit around the 25th of November? You claim to be trying to build your 'e-credit' in which case you should have started with an audit your first time around. This will be the second loan/bond without an audit. You claim an audit will be around the 25th. What has been done to make this audit happen apart from setting a date?



I would still Like to get an audit done, if you are an auditor please step up to the plate and stop bashing my threads. If you know an auditor please suggest him in this thread. I have no intention on scamming anyone, I am trying to be as open as possible while being new to MD forum. So any criticism is welcomed but please be constructive.

Really ? If you saw that as bashing you then you really have no business being in MD and asking for loans, not to mention that if you read it again it WAS constructive criticism.

If you can't answer questions that should be easily answered if you are above board then all this does is make it smell like even more of a scam.

One thing that struck me earlier was the mention of 'e-cred' or 'rep', just the mention of this raises alarm bells. 'Rep' tends to be something that if you actively chase you'll never get and if you claim to be chasing it it instantly shows you to be either a fraud or pretty clueless.

If you REALLY want this to have any chance of going ahead I'd suggest you start trying to answer the questions that have been posed previously in this thread and stop trying to claim that people are sabotaging you.

Edit: PS - Auditors are really quite easily found, look at this as a training exercise. If you cant manage to find an auditor and get an audit done then how can we expect you to manage billions of our ISK ?

Fuzzy Weeze
The United Snakes
Posted - 2010.11.26 09:10:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Rykker Bow
you claim a NAV of 18 billion in you 9/21/2010 post (linked above) with this statement:
Originally by: Fuzzy Weeze
I have been shadowing a large alliance and seeding their market now for 12 months and have been able to convert 5 billion into 18 in the last 6 months.

And a NAV of ~4.5 billion in this thread. What happened to the 13.5 billion?
Originally by: Fuzzy Weeze
About me
I Currently have about 3 billion in trades and about 1.5 billion in assets, including 200m on my alt, Those willing to invest will know who my alt is because there is occasional transactions back and forth with him. I am currently moving LO, Ships and T2 modules between regions. I am interested in minor production and including t2 ships in my sales.




An expensive Ship was purchased by my main that is why I am currently starting over, with my current funds being low, I am asking for a loan to help accelerate my profit. I believe I might have found in game finances and will just rely on friends to help me, considering my inability to reach out to the eve community without looking like a scammer.

onto the next.

Sorry to come off as a little aggro'd by all the doubt, I will indeed seek out a auditor that will be able to verify my market abilities. I understand most posts asking for loans are probably scams and so I will attempt to be as open and up front with anyone interested in investing in me.

Jenny Jihad
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
Posted - 2010.11.26 09:17:00 - [15]
 

ppphhffahahahaha, speechless

Drexciyian
The Water Margin Tech
Posted - 2010.11.26 11:28:00 - [16]
 

Girl im not your stepping stone not your stepping stone


 

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