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Cpt Placeholder
Posted - 2010.11.22 19:33:00 - [1]
 

I compiled 2 systems to choose from.
One (A) has a nearly optimal motherboard from a reputable manufacturer and a good CPU.
The other (B) has a good motherboard but from an allegedly low quality manufacturer and a nearly optimal CPU.

So, given those options, which would you choose and why?

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.11.22 19:39:00 - [2]
 

While someo will surely come here saying motherboard is more important than CPU for performance, it is not. However the performance gain from a 'good' CPU to a 'nearly optimal' is probably also pretty small. And i wouldnt buy motherboard from low quality manufacturer simply because the risk of both bad compatibiblity and that it has larger chance of stuff exploding and damaging other components.

I would go for a cheap motherboard from a good manufacturer. That is unless you are planning to OC, in which case i would go for bit more expensive MB.

Tora Nevaal
Posted - 2010.11.22 20:01:00 - [3]
 

The motherboard you choose will determine more the options available to you than the total performance of the parts you install on it. Most motherboards these days support multiple families of processors from either Intel or AMD, allowing you to purchase a budget CPU now with the foresight of knowing that you will still have plenty of room to upgrade later on down the road. My personal recommendation is anything from Asus; I've been building systems with their mobo's for almost a decade now and have never had any major problems. Their price range is anywhere from dirt cheap to best on the market. If you're on a budget, I would go with an AMD processor. They will give you the best bang for your buck. Even their flagship Phenom Black 6 core is a fraction of the price of an Intel and is more than enough for any gaming or home PC use. To be honest though, since you obviously play EVE, and I would assume other games as well, the graphics card that you choose will have a much larger impact on performance than either the CPU or board.

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.11.22 20:17:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Vogue on 22/11/2010 20:18:17
Motherboard manufacturers use common Intel, AMD\ATI and VIA chipsets. What cheap motherboards lack is more overclocking functionality and higher quality electronic components. There was a thing some years ago about poor quality capacitors. I have had cheap motherboards sometimes. I never had a problem with them. Just they had less overclocking support. The quality control will still be good from Taiwanese factories. It is in their interest to manufacture reliable products.

I currently use a Gigabyte motherboard. I choose it as it was still a reasonable price: £90. And it had very good overclocking support with substantial voltage regulation. So the motherboard could handle a wattage hungry 4ghz quad core CPU.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.11.22 21:36:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Cpt Placeholder
I compiled 2 systems to choose from.
One (A) has a nearly optimal motherboard from a reputable manufacturer and a good CPU.
The other (B) has a good motherboard but from an allegedly low quality manufacturer and a nearly optimal CPU.
So, given those options, which would you choose and why?

That's easy. It doesn't really matter all that much. The GPU is what you should care about (assuming it's a machine for gaming) Very Happy

Pr1ncess Alia
Posted - 2010.11.22 23:48:00 - [6]
 

To save me writing a page on why you shouldn't be looking at it this simplistically

I'll simply say, more parts/chance of failure on the MB, so get the better MB.

alittlebirdy
Posted - 2010.11.23 01:09:00 - [7]
 

Better of both, wtf is the point if you aint gona get good ****?

Whats a good mobo cost, 150.. if that... come on.

Everyone leaves out, poor mobo, poor power, poor power = more wear on the cpu and other parts attached to it...

same reason the PSU is the most inportant part of the computer.

Sturmwolke
Posted - 2010.11.23 03:03:00 - [8]
 

The critical PC components (not inc discrete PCI cards) more prone to failures are the motherboards and PSU. Invest accordingly.
The CPU is a non-issue if not overclocked, it's a tank. I've got a few good old CPUs lying around doing nothing.

Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2010.11.23 03:26:00 - [9]
 

I made that mistake, bought cheap motherboard. Motherboard died almost exactly one year later.

I tried swapping RAM, the RAM from broken motherboard did not work so now I know that the dead motherboard probably killed its RAM too. I have not tested the CPU yet.

Lesson learned.

Starlight Twilight
Amarr
Posted - 2010.11.23 04:45:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Caleidascope
I made that mistake, bought cheap motherboard. Motherboard died almost exactly one year later.

I tried swapping RAM, the RAM from broken motherboard did not work so now I know that the dead motherboard probably killed its RAM too. I have not tested the CPU yet.

Lesson learned.

find the people who sold you that motherboard
PUNISH THE INFIDELS
find the people who manufactured that motherboard
PUNISH THEM TOO
find the CEO of the company
FINISH HIM

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.11.23 13:01:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Caleidascope
I made that mistake, bought cheap motherboard. Motherboard died almost exactly one year later.
Count yourself lucky your mobo died!

Mine didn“t and it poisoned the air I breathe with its ruptured resistors & capacitors for quite some time, until I had enough and took a closer look at it and the odd boot up behavior.

Motherboard is the VERY last place to save money on.

Drokar Gazer
DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
Posted - 2010.11.23 18:18:00 - [12]
 

I build gaming rigs all the time. Motherboard is the most important part of your rig. 2nd most is video card, because it will determine how nice your graphics will look. 3rd is cpu. Why? Cpu's dont really offer a noticable difference outside of benchmarking. Plus a gamer doesnt need more than a dual core...and get e8400 cheap. Cheap mobo will cause u issued later. I got x48 gigabyte, e8500 intel cpu, 285 nvidia card, and use a ssd drive to boot programs at lightspeed

Cpt Placeholder
Posted - 2010.11.23 19:25:00 - [13]
 

It's not supposed to be a single purpose machine, all other parts are virtually equivalent and the price difference is negligible.
I could pick a high quality board for the same price for B but it would have a terrible layout and mediocre features compared to A's board.

I think I'll go with A.

Thanks for the input everyone.

spectre257
Posted - 2010.11.24 14:04:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: spectre257 on 24/11/2010 14:04:54
Edited by: spectre257 on 24/11/2010 14:04:25
Originally by: Drokar Gazer
I build gaming rigs all the time. Motherboard is the most important part of your rig. 2nd most is video card, because it will determine how nice your graphics will look. 3rd is cpu. Why? Cpu's dont really offer a noticable difference outside of benchmarking. Plus a gamer doesnt need more than a dual core...and get e8400 cheap. Cheap mobo will cause u issued later. I got x48 gigabyte, e8500 intel cpu, 285 nvidia card, and use a ssd drive to boot programs at lightspeed


I disagree with you there.
Having been reading reviews of GPUs for many years and building my own boxes for a while.
I can tell you the CPU is just as important as your video card. If you look at all the benchmarks from a few years back the performance ceilings are caused by CPU bottlenecks.
Therefore if you have a jarate poor CPU coupled with a stonking fast video card, you'll still get appalling performance.

The best thing to do is achieve a balance between your hardware. Mobo selection is important, aside from determining your upgrade options it's important to look at where your peripheral slots. So you can actually fit whatever hardware you have on the board without issues.

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.11.24 14:37:00 - [15]
 

Battlefield Bad Company 2 AFAIK is the first fps game to utillise four cores in a CPU. I can play it with decent fps using an older Nvidia 8800 GTS 512MB.

Generally most PC enthusiasts upgrade their gaming rig in different stages. My gfx card 2 years ago was the most powerful component in my rig. Now it is the weakest. But I won't replace it for a while.

I have built my own PC's since I got a Pentium 5 90mhz. The biggest leap in performance I have got from an upgrade was replacing an AMD x2 6000 (3ghz) with an Intel I5 that I have overclocked from 2.6ghz to 4ghz in January this year. For CPU grunt It will be quite some while before I replace this I5 CPU. And I know I can further OC it to 4.2ghz. I have a external watercooling kit with a cpu block that I will upgrade and use for the final 4.2ghz OC.

Sazkyen
Posted - 2010.11.24 17:13:00 - [16]
 


When someone wants max performance with limited budget I always recommend "cheap mobo" + "best CPU you can afford"

So yeah, a lot of Asrock boards around with fearly okay CPUs Smile


Elysarian
Minmatar
Elysarian Corp
Posted - 2010.11.24 20:58:00 - [17]
 

Seriously: never, ever try to save money on your motherboard...

I did this a few years ago, mobo died after a year or so (capacitors in the power regulator area) - took out 4 sticks of RAM, the CPU, HDD and the PSU, the only usable components left were the gfx card and optical drive.

more expensive mobo = better quality components == lower chance of failure.

However, if you plan to upgrade your motherboard annually, feel free to spend less on it (personally I'm still running on an ASRock 2-year old Socket AM2+ board I got to replace the one mentioned above, I upgraded my CPU last year to a quad-core Phenom Black Edition and my gfx card last month to a GTX460).

Mire Stoude
The Undesirables
Posted - 2010.11.25 13:40:00 - [18]
 

I am no computer expert, but I see the motherboard as a foundation. You can easily replace the processor, but replacing the MB requires completley uninstalling everything and possibly having to replace some other items that will not work with or fit on the new MB. Also, you have to reinstall the OS(?).

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.11.25 15:01:00 - [19]
 

I've mostly ignored motherboards, and recently I have been thinking that may be a mistake.


 

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