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Huegor
Posted - 2010.11.19 03:57:00 - [1]
 

Please gods of the eve-universe;

Those of us who have been loyal to the Khanid Kingdom wish to request that you add cosmos missions to our kingdom, epic mission arc's and possibly the ability to be in the militia.

Either that or somehow make it easy for us to run in the four main factions so we can enjoy these aspects of the game without having to double our faction grind.

This thread could not be started without also asking that we get access to some kind of faction ships, even if like above we were able to buy Caldari/Amarr.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2010.11.19 04:17:00 - [2]
 

As a previously loyal citizen of the Ammatar Mandate, I agree. Oh and ships there too. Got LP to spend!

Javen Corvinus
Posted - 2010.11.19 04:28:00 - [3]
 

Definatly would be nice.

Markus Reese
Caldari
New Eden Weekly Sentinel
Posted - 2010.11.19 04:51:00 - [4]
 

Well, I see what you are saying, but there already are khanid ships in the form of Tech 2 amarr. If it is tech 2, black with blue lights and spews missiles, then it is khanid.

As for the rest, sub faction questing would be nice.

Slimy Worm
The Skunkworks
Posted - 2010.11.19 05:31:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Slimy Worm on 19/11/2010 05:33:18
Originally by: Markus Reese
Well, I see what you are saying, but there already are khanid ships in the form of Tech 2 amarr. If it is tech 2, black with blue lights and spews missiles, then it is khanid.

As for the rest, sub faction questing would be nice.


lol he said quest

But seriously, after CCP fixes the other things that are wrong with Eve (which isn't very hard to do, aside from lag), making Khanid/Ammatar ships would be a good idea.

Zayne Zacharias
Amarr
Posted - 2010.11.19 06:29:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Zayne Zacharias on 19/11/2010 06:35:20
I would personally love to see what the Kingdom's shipyards are able to do with an Apocalypse hull. Apocalypse Khanid Navy Issue would be absolutely terrifying.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that there is no Khanid-designed battleship, and I doubt the RKN is too happy about that at the moment. Even pirates have battleships. So, in terms of story at least, there's justification.

Here's my own spin on it:
Defense:
1) Base armor increase from 7500 to 9500 (still less than the Navy Apoc)
2) Shields left largely the same
3) Structure slightly reduced from 6641 to 6200

Base cap recharge time slashed to 719, with capacitor slightly boosted to 7750 (which should give a maximum recharge rate of about +26.5 if my maths is right).

Invert the hardpoints (eight missile, two turrets). Base CPU upped to 600. Boost sensor strength slightly to 23, drone bay boosted by 25/25. Base speed increased to 125m/s. Extra mid.

Appropriate bonuses to pick out of would be non-racial damage boost (I'm thinking 5% launcher ROF boost), capacitor recharge.

Reasons for changes:
Defense: The Kingdom historically favors ships with a large number of active modules (and generally dual reppers, in the case of offensive ships) - reason would be the small number of hulls in their navy compared to the "Big Four", and especially the Imperial Navy. Original hull has no defensive bonuses.

Capacitor: Another Kingdom favorite. Sacrilege & Curse are the perfect example.

Fitting: Revised to fit a full rack of Siege launchers.

I think these changes are appropriate, though they would have to be balanced - I think the ship is overpowered at the moment. The Kingdom's specialties are high-velocity close-range unguided missile combat (with some drone capacity) and advanced capacitor technology, which this version of the Apoc shows.

Obviously comes with signature black plating, blue lighting, and awesomely huge add-on thrusters.

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.19 07:48:00 - [7]
 

No way. Go to main factions such as Amarr,Minmatar,Caldari or Gallente if you want.

Kabaal S'sylistha
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.11.19 08:55:00 - [8]
 

Make all factions joinable for FW! I want to claim land for Guristas.

Huegor
Posted - 2010.11.19 09:19:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
No way. Go to main factions such as Amarr,Minmatar,Caldari or Gallente if you want.


I want to run khanid because I have already spent the time, plus the fusion of caldari and khanid kingdoms! Just give us the epic arc, cosmos and I'll be happy.

Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
Posted - 2010.11.19 09:37:00 - [10]
 

Well, with sanshas getting some love in the incursion expansion, I wouldn't be suprised if both the other pirate factions and khanid/ammatar would get some love as well. It'd be only fair.

Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
Posted - 2010.11.19 18:54:00 - [11]
 

Why not use Khanid as the ideal jumping-off point to introduce new races to the game? Khanid, Ammatar, Syndicate, and Mordus Legion would be fine candidates for new empires. Now's the time to do it, too, while CCP are creating new "looks" and a new character creation system.

CCP keeps trying to create new gameplay ideas, but they ought to know that the easiest way to please the customers is just to create a crap ton of new ships!

Markus Reese
Caldari
New Eden Weekly Sentinel
Posted - 2010.11.20 00:41:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Slimy Worm
lol he said quest

But seriously, after CCP fixes the other things that are wrong with Eve (which isn't very hard to do, aside from lag), making Khanid/Ammatar ships would be a good idea.


Zomg... how did I say that word???

I can see it a bit more of what you are getting at. More diversity would be cool to see in the future. Could be a nice addition to the pirate factions now that I think about it. Getting the role for them could be tricky. Only thing khanid faction ships would be is armor tanking missile boats. Ammatar, while they would be nice, do they even have a unique style?

Fournone
Posted - 2010.11.20 00:52:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Fournone on 20/11/2010 00:52:22
Originally by: Markus Reese
Ammatar, while they would be nice, do they even have a unique style?


Yes, actually. The Ammatar are Minmatar that left the republic during the Amarr/Matari war. They now serve the Amarr empire (though a large number of them went back to the republic recently). So im guessing, Amarr + Minmatar would be..... speed based Amarr ships? They use Amarrian ships and weapon systems so if they have any Minmatar blood left in them, it would be saying 'make this harby go 5000m/s.'

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2010.11.20 01:00:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 20/11/2010 01:01:19
Originally by: Fournone

Yes, actually. The Ammatar are Minmatar that left the republic during the Amarr/Matari war.


And secretly supported by the Caldari, according to the backstory.

I could go for an armour tanking Caldai silver Abaddon that spits projectiles or sumthin. :) Scagga, an old time Amattar RPer did a forum thread on Ammatar ships once, ancient though now, good luck finding it.

Fournone
Posted - 2010.11.20 01:20:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
I could go for an armour tanking Caldari silver Abaddon that spits projectiles or sumthin.Smile


How about silver speedy Amarr w/ missile/arties? Very Happy

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Scagga, an old time Amattar RPer did a forum thread on Ammatar ships once, ancient though now, good luck finding it.


Goggle it.

Xorv
Posted - 2010.11.20 08:49:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Well, with sanshas getting some love in the incursion expansion, I wouldn't be suprised if both the other pirate factions and khanid/ammatar would get some love as well. It'd be only fair.


Please no, that sort of love we can all do without. All Sansha Faction players get out of Incursions is a middle finger from CCP. I seriously doubt Khanid players here want their faction turned into a big EQ/WoW style PvE raid for Isk and loot.

Slimy Worm
The Skunkworks
Posted - 2010.11.20 09:06:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Markus Reese
Originally by: Slimy Worm
lol he said quest

But seriously, after CCP fixes the other things that are wrong with Eve (which isn't very hard to do, aside from lag), making Khanid/Ammatar ships would be a good idea.


Zomg... how did I say that word???

I can see it a bit more of what you are getting at. More diversity would be cool to see in the future. Could be a nice addition to the pirate factions now that I think about it. Getting the role for them could be tricky. Only thing khanid faction ships would be is armor tanking missile boats. Ammatar, while they would be nice, do they even have a unique style?


There was a news announcement where the Ammatar Navy makes its own ship, the Aridshipur-class Abaddon, that can't use Tachyons. So, based on this alone, they use lasers but probably primarily pulse, and they almost certainly armor-tank. Maybe damage/tracking bonuses but no range/cap bonuses?

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2010.11.20 14:25:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Slimy Worm

... Aridshipur-class Abaddon, that can't use Tachyons ...


I recall reading that, it was quite some time ago. As for what the fiction said they can and can't use, who knows, things change in the fictional wolrd faster than they can change in the real one.

Markus Reese
Caldari
New Eden Weekly Sentinel
Posted - 2010.11.20 15:12:00 - [19]
 

Hmm, now you got me thinking. I spent a while in khanid and armour missile boats are great. Love my damnation. The idea of Ammatar being a speed/pulse setup is pretty cool. The crazy me thinks maybe even some shield focus being caldari allies? Cpu over pg focus

Markus Reese
Caldari
New Eden Weekly Sentinel
Posted - 2010.11.20 15:15:00 - [20]
 

Hmm, now you got me thinking. I spent a while in khanid and armour missile boats are great. Love my damnation. The idea of Ammatar being a speed/pulse setup is pretty cool. The crazy me thinks maybe even some shield focus being caldari allies? Cpu over pg focus

Huegor
Posted - 2010.11.22 06:12:00 - [21]
 

Bumpity bump bump.


EPIC ARC and Cosmos for Khanid!

Publius Valerius
Amarr
Posted - 2010.11.23 11:10:00 - [22]
 

First of all sorry fro my bad english..

I also think the Khanid Kingdom need some love (like more missions or ships). I know always when It comes to this topic; it comes always to the same responds:

1.) The Kingdom is just a Faction not a Goverment.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Portal:NPC_Faction_Types
2.) It would boost the Amarr Block
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Portal:NPC_Faction_Blocks
3.) CCP has better thinks to do, like working on WoS or adding microtransactions for vanity items :)
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1419106

About this 3 responds... I agree it... is always something true about it, but I think all can be done.

To point 1.) it is true, the Kingdom is just a Faction; thats why I think, they donīt need really a line of Faction Ships. I love the look of the Dark Amarr Ships, but I think this ships should be Amarr-Tech2, or maybe in the future a subsystem (like Assault Optimization) how wouldīt just change slightly the desgin of a Tech3-ship it would also change the color to black (I would prefer a black Legion instead of a Khanid Faction line-up). I think CCP will just add Khanid and Thukker ships as Tech2-Version, I have no problem with this policy. And ones and for all a Khanid BS would be awesome :)

To point 2.) I donīt think it would boost the Amarr-Block, I think the balance is given with the Tukker Tribe for example. They have with Tukker Mix High-Sec-Stations and High-Sec-Agents.
I know you what you asking now... what is with the Caldari and Gallente?
For the Gallente Block is the answer easy: ORE, you can fly now Tevis Jak in the Empire-Space. If CCP like they can add another one. For the Cladari is in the Block Overview is just two left: Guristas and the MLC. I would go for the MLC (maybe CCP has a Idea). I personelly would say the easiest and lasziest way out of this were: add another Caldari Faction.

To point 3.) Give the Khanid some love and some more Stuff in the LP-Shop (or even a new NPC like KHANID FAMILY) would be a good way how player can to spend some LPs (what is Isk in some way) and ISK. P.S. in the contract system is Khand Navy Siege Missille Launcher... so why donīt add him in a LP-Shop I would buy it... I would buy 6 from then and this more then a Plex.... It means CCP has make so easy $15.
Originally by: Xorv
Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Well, with sanshas getting some love in the incursion expansion, I wouldn't be suprised if both the other pirate factions and khanid/ammatar would get some love as well. It'd be only fair.


Please no, that sort of love we can all do without. All Sansha Faction players get out of Incursions is a middle finger from CCP. I seriously doubt Khanid players here want their faction turned into a big EQ/WoW style PvE raid for Isk and loot.


I agree, but as a real Sansha roleplayer you are true slave, so you have no opinion :)

Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Why not use Khanid as the ideal jumping-off point to introduce new races to the game? Khanid, Ammatar, Syndicate, and Mordus Legion would be fine candidates for new empires. Now's the time to do it, too, while CCP are creating new "looks" and a new character creation system.
CCP keeps trying to create new gameplay ideas, but they ought to know that the easiest way to please the customers is just to create a crap ton of new ships!

I have thinking about something like that too... I think, they should and can go the easiest and laziest way out of this with Incursion. They can add one Bloodline to each Goverment:
Amarr: Nefantar (give them just the look of the Brutors and the anestry of they like^^ or create some new)
Caldari: Intaki "renegade" (because the Ishukone Corporation has/had control over Intaki Prime)

Publius Valerius
Amarr
Posted - 2010.11.23 11:14:00 - [23]
 

Gallente: Vherokior (because 1/5 off the Minmatar life in the Federation and they are versatile people
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Minmatar#Overview
Mimatar: Krusal Tribe (or something what CCP like)

The First link is not workingCrying or Very sadSo here a new one:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Portal:NPC_Faction_Types


 

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