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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2010.11.18 17:14:00 - [1]
 

Dear CCP,

It has now been over a month since you broke the editors and evemail.
Aside from wishing to remark on the fact that your QA department (you do have one right ?) totally dropped the ball on this one (*cough* again) could you please provide some insight in how much longer the fix is going to take ?

Really annoyed customer,
Louis

P.S. *hugs*

p.s.s. Please rush deploy the PI improvements cause I hate that too

p.s.s.s. xxx




Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.11.18 17:20:00 - [2]
 

Gotta do it...can I haz yer stuffz?

There now no one else has to. Wink


Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2010.11.18 17:30:00 - [3]
 

Sadly, I'm all out of rage right now so I guess I'll stay and keep it Cool

Swidgen
Posted - 2010.11.18 20:18:00 - [4]
 

For all practical purposes, they do not have a QA department. A couple of people at most. My guess would be that the programmers do their own testing and that's "good enough" for management.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.11.18 20:20:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Louis deGuerre
Sadly, I'm all out of rage right now so I guess I'll stay and keep it Cool


Ok...but if you ever change your mind remember me. Very Happy


Gravemind GER
Caldari
Fnord Works
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.11.18 21:12:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Gravemind GER on 18/11/2010 21:12:37
need some peelz? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOBNrAtIhRo

Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
Posted - 2010.11.18 21:25:00 - [7]
 

Here we have CCP...a game company that has given and still does give free expansions twice a year where other games charge you. Here is CCP who has improved the game with graphics upgrades and massive amounts of added content over the years (all for free) where other games have not. Here is CCP creating innovating and industry changing things like CARBON and DUST 514. And then there is the OP of this thread and people like him who constantly ***** and moan about little nearly inconsequential bugs...I call these people "ass's". There are always bugs...in EVERY game. Just because CCP doesn't fix it the next day does not mean they aren't working on it. Name me one game, one expansion, just ONE mmo that does not have bugs.

Sick of the *****ing,

Vertisce

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.11.18 21:43:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Here we have CCP...a game company that has given and still does give free expansions twice a year where other games charge you. Here is CCP who has improved the game with graphics upgrades and massive amounts of added content over the years (all for free) where other games have not. Here is CCP creating innovating and industry changing things like CARBON and DUST 514. And then there is the OP of this thread and people like him who constantly ***** and moan about little nearly inconsequential bugs...I call these people "ass's". There are always bugs...in EVERY game. Just because CCP doesn't fix it the next day does not mean they aren't working on it. Name me one game, one expansion, just ONE mmo that does not have bugs.

Sick of the *****ing,

Vertisce


Here we have someone who needs the WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance. Rolling Eyes


Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
Posted - 2010.11.18 21:57:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Here we have CCP...a game company that has given and still does give free expansions twice a year where other games charge you. Here is CCP who has improved the game with graphics upgrades and massive amounts of added content over the years (all for free) where other games have not. Here is CCP creating innovating and industry changing things like CARBON and DUST 514. And then there is the OP of this thread and people like him who constantly ***** and moan about little nearly inconsequential bugs...I call these people "ass's". There are always bugs...in EVERY game. Just because CCP doesn't fix it the next day does not mean they aren't working on it. Name me one game, one expansion, just ONE mmo that does not have bugs.

Sick of the *****ing,

Vertisce


Here we have someone who needs the WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance. Rolling Eyes




You completely missed the point.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.11.18 22:00:00 - [10]
 

No...not at all. You're *****ing about people *****ing, whats there to miss?

Anyway...HTFU.


Kidain
Gallente
Rule of Five
Posted - 2010.11.18 22:01:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Here we have CCP...a game company that has given and still does give free expansions twice a year where other games charge you. Here is CCP who has improved the game with graphics upgrades and massive amounts of added content over the years (all for free) where other games have not. Here is CCP creating innovating and industry changing things like CARBON and DUST 514. And then there is the OP of this thread and people like him who constantly ***** and moan about little nearly inconsequential bugs...I call these people "ass's". There are always bugs...in EVERY game. Just because CCP doesn't fix it the next day does not mean they aren't working on it. Name me one game, one expansion, just ONE mmo that does not have bugs.

Sick of the *****ing,

Vertisce


Here we have someone who needs the WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance. Rolling Eyes




You completely missed the point.


They wouldn't get the rather excellent point if it came and slapped them across the face with a wet herring. They would still blindly chant: "I am right"

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2010.11.18 22:15:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Gravemind GER
Edited by: Gravemind GER on 18/11/2010 21:12:37
need some peelz? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOBNrAtIhRo


That's funny Razz Bookmarked.

Also...dev alt spotted Wink

Hack Harrison
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.19 04:04:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Name me one game, one expansion, just ONE mmo that does not have bugs.


Eve Online!!!

Oh wait...Embarassed

Aera Aiana
Amarr
Posted - 2010.11.19 09:53:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Here we have CCP...a game company that has given and still does give free expansions twice a year where other games charge you.


No, other games call it content patches. They do charge for addons, but those usually deliver A LOT more content than an EVE addon. Usually an addon affects everybody playing the game. That's absolutely not the case with EVE addons. Not a bad thing or anything, after all they don't charge for it. Just saying you can't compare them just because the same term is used for it.

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Here is CCP who has improved the game with graphics upgrades and massive amounts of added content over the years (all for free) where other games have not.


All the MMOs I have played have continously delivered graphics (and content) updates. I mean even SOE does that occasionally and they're really the kind of guys whose only interest lies in sucking every last $ out of a product.

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Here is CCP creating innovating and industry changing things like CARBON and DUST 514.


Do you even know what carbon is? Other than a nice marketing gag? I grant you that point on Dust, it's a novel idea. Don't really think it'll work out since console games are usually short lived, but I guess it's worth a try anyway.

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
And then there is the OP of this thread and people like him who constantly ***** and moan about little nearly inconsequential bugs...I call these people "ass's".


Well, it's up to you to invalidate your arguments by calling people names, but really, why do you presume that those issues are inconsequential? You certainly wouldn't say so if your playstyle required you to use those buggy tools.


Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
There are always bugs...in EVERY game.


Yes, but the world is not black and white. Do the words "more" and "less" have any meaning to you? Because this game might be more (or less) buggy than other games. How does it compare to the mmo average?...

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Just because CCP doesn't fix it the next day does not mean they aren't working on it.


The problem is that they pushed a patch live that does nothing for the players. It was just a change in background technology and while that's certainly "a (very!) good thing" in the long run, it doesn't mean you have to inflict it in such a state on the player. They could have just waited until it was ready or released it along with the next expansion.

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Name me one game, one expansion, just ONE mmo that does not have bugs.


Ya, well, here we go black and white again.... more, less, you know?

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Sick of the *****ing,


I'm kinda sick of the fanyboys and the *****es.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.11.19 14:56:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Aera Aiana
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Here we have CCP...a game company that has given and still does give free expansions twice a year where other games charge you.


No, other games call it content patches. They do charge for addons, but those usually deliver A LOT more content than an EVE addon. Usually an addon affects everybody playing the game. That's absolutely not the case with EVE addons. Not a bad thing or anything, after all they don't charge for it. Just saying you can't compare them just because the same term is used for it.

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Here is CCP who has improved the game with graphics upgrades and massive amounts of added content over the years (all for free) where other games have not.


All the MMOs I have played have continously delivered graphics (and content) updates. I mean even SOE does that occasionally and they're really the kind of guys whose only interest lies in sucking every last $ out of a product.

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Here is CCP creating innovating and industry changing things like CARBON and DUST 514.


Do you even know what carbon is? Other than a nice marketing gag? I grant you that point on Dust, it's a novel idea. Don't really think it'll work out since console games are usually short lived, but I guess it's worth a try anyway.

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
And then there is the OP of this thread and people like him who constantly ***** and moan about little nearly inconsequential bugs...I call these people "ass's".


Well, it's up to you to invalidate your arguments by calling people names, but really, why do you presume that those issues are inconsequential? You certainly wouldn't say so if your playstyle required you to use those buggy tools.


Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
There are always bugs...in EVERY game.


Yes, but the world is not black and white. Do the words "more" and "less" have any meaning to you? Because this game might be more (or less) buggy than other games. How does it compare to the mmo average?...

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Just because CCP doesn't fix it the next day does not mean they aren't working on it.


The problem is that they pushed a patch live that does nothing for the players. It was just a change in background technology and while that's certainly "a (very!) good thing" in the long run, it doesn't mean you have to inflict it in such a state on the player. They could have just waited until it was ready or released it along with the next expansion.

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Name me one game, one expansion, just ONE mmo that does not have bugs.


Ya, well, here we go black and white again.... more, less, you know?

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Sick of the *****ing,


I'm kinda sick of the fanyboys and the *****es.


This...QFT.


Sin15
Posted - 2010.11.19 18:28:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Sin15 on 19/11/2010 18:32:26
Edited by: Sin15 on 19/11/2010 18:28:45
Carbon Technology is a refresh of the framework and assets that have been used in EVE over the course of its life. I just wanted to clarify that. (Since Trinity2, that is)

I'm not really sure how it is a considered a marketing gag, considering the fact that they haven't claimed anything more than a refresh of the old. To be honest, there aren't too many MMO developers that actually refresh old assets.


 

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