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Drexciyian
The Water Margin Tech
Posted - 2010.11.12 13:33:00 - [1]
 


Mme Pinkerton
The pink win
Posted - 2010.11.12 15:35:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 12/11/2010 15:37:40

the pictures are very nice


strawberry jam is a valid substitute for maple syrup on pancakes. Discuss instead.

volhar
Posted - 2010.11.12 15:58:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 12/11/2010 15:37:40


strawberry jam is a valid substitute for maple syrup on pancakes. Discuss instead.



Blasphemy!

Charles37
Posted - 2010.11.12 16:08:00 - [4]
 

The thing that struck me most was the graph on the bottom of page 39 showing the number of supercarriers produced each month. While I've long heard people complaining that the game is becoming "supercaps online" I hadn't realized how large the numbers of these ships had been growing. Also notable is the vast disparity between the number produced and the number that are destroyed each month -- September had a net gain of about 140 supercarriers. With such large numbers accumulating I would have thought that there would be more large scale invasions, but then again, I try not to get involved too much in 0.0 political machinations.

It would be interesting to know how much of the minerals used in the construction of these ships are mined/obtained locally and how much is brought in via mineral compression.

Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
Posted - 2010.11.12 16:13:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Charles37
With such large numbers accumulating I would have thought that there would be more large scale invasions, but then again, I try not to get involved too much in 0.0 political machinations.


When the node lags out and crashes at 200 ships on grid, it's hard to have such encounters.

No, the 3000+ fleet fight a week ago isn't fair since CCP reinforced the node with the node that runs Jita. Until more nodes like it are available for such fights, the size of such battles won't happen again. But that was quite an epic fight and does show what CCP and the EVE cluster is capable of.


Durin Sarga
Posted - 2010.11.12 17:30:00 - [6]
 

If you read the comments thread you'll notice CCP gives out the number of active POSs in space and those which are online.

29,052 Floating in Space
23,000 Online

So I guess that gives us a quick idea of the PI fuel demand.

Ash Donai
Minmatar
Kanu Industries
Posted - 2010.11.12 17:59:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Charles37
With such large numbers accumulating I would have thought that there would be more large scale invasions

For a bunch of people buying a supercarrier is the pinnacle of their EVE career, they buy one, then they are stuck in it while having at the same time spent all their ISK on the ship and fittings, they can't get what they paid if they were to sell it again, and so they just quit playing EVE altogether.

I personally know 5 players for whom the above is an accurate statement. After a number of years in EVE one often finds that there's simply nothing entertaining left to do. Territorial warfare is the same old stuff with slightly different (and more annoying) mechanics, why there are any people in 0.0 anymore I don't know, you couldn't pay me to live there. So there's really nothing much left to do than to fly a supercap and call it a day.

Nikolai Kondratiev
Sphere Design Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.12 21:26:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Ash Donai
Originally by: Charles37
With such large numbers accumulating I would have thought that there would be more large scale invasions

For a bunch of people buying a supercarrier is the pinnacle of their EVE career, they buy one, then they are stuck in it while having at the same time spent all their ISK on the ship and fittings, they can't get what they paid if they were to sell it again, and so they just quit playing EVE altogether.

I personally know 5 players for whom the above is an accurate statement. After a number of years in EVE one often finds that there's simply nothing entertaining left to do. Territorial warfare is the same old stuff with slightly different (and more annoying) mechanics, why there are any people in 0.0 anymore I don't know, you couldn't pay me to live there. So there's really nothing much left to do than to fly a supercap and call it a day.


That's probably why supercap alts or supercap-holding alts are popular Wink

RutilusUnus
Posted - 2010.11.12 21:30:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 12/11/2010 15:37:40

the pictures are very nice


strawberry jam is a valid substitute for maple syrup on pancakes. Discuss instead.



What the **** is wrong with you?

Brock Nelson
Posted - 2010.11.12 21:44:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Charles37
With such large numbers accumulating I would have thought that there would be more large scale invasions, but then again, I try not to get involved too much in 0.0 political machinations.


When the node lags out and crashes at 200 ships on grid, it's hard to have such encounters.

No, the 3000+ fleet fight a week ago isn't fair since CCP reinforced the node with the node that runs Jita. Until more nodes like it are available for such fights, the size of such battles won't happen again. But that was quite an epic fight and does show what CCP and the EVE cluster is capable of.




It's a cycle really, ccp improves the coding for lag, more ships are brought in and the node lags again, cycle starts again.

It's just like RL, government builds a freeway, more people use it, traffic jams, government makes freeway bigger, more people use it, etc etc

Mme Pinkerton
The pink win
Posted - 2010.11.12 22:00:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: RutilusUnus
What the **** is wrong with you?

I am just a bitter vet who dreams of the control over the EVE economy being outsourced to the Sešlabanki when you leave him alone for too long.

Also I feel a little sick because I ate too many pancakes. (no joke Sad)

Companion Qube
Minmatar
Electron Conservation Inc
SRS.
Posted - 2010.11.12 22:48:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 12/11/2010 15:37:40

the pictures are very nice

strawberry jam is a valid substitute for maple syrup on pancakes. Discuss instead.


I wonder if Dr. E's Ph.D. Thesis had this many pictures? That would explain a lot.

Tasko Pal
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.11.12 23:38:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Tasko Pal on 12/11/2010 23:39:13
Hmmm, lot of POSs dying in WH space. That's a bit surprising. I wonder if most of those POSs are fully established or ganked at a time of weakness (offline due to fuel or caught while still being set up)?

Added: As an aside, I wonder how big would Jita get, if there was no lag at all, no matter how many people packed in there?

Axemaster
Posted - 2010.11.13 09:03:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Tasko Pal
Edited by: Tasko Pal on 12/11/2010 23:39:13
Hmmm, lot of POSs dying in WH space. That's a bit surprising. I wonder if most of those POSs are fully established or ganked at a time of weakness (offline due to fuel or caught while still being set up)?

Added: As an aside, I wonder how big would Jita get, if there was no lag at all, no matter how many people packed in there?



I doubt it would get much bigger, since there's usually no problems getting in there anyway.

Tea Partier
Posted - 2010.11.13 11:39:00 - [15]
 

The number of WH POS's destroyed was surprising at first till I realized I had taken part in 3 of them in the last month. I'd chalk that up to abandoned, small and defenseless POS's, which are shockingly still common in WH space. What's your average WH corp/alliance suppose to do when they find a POS with 4 guns or with no defenses at all.Neutral This isn't Hello Kitty Adventure Land. Razz

What's more shocking/interesting is the ratio of ships lost versus POS's destroyed in WH space. I'd like to see more info on that.

Tasko Pal
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.11.13 14:57:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Tea Partier
The number of WH POS's destroyed was surprising at first till I realized I had taken part in 3 of them in the last month. I'd chalk that up to abandoned, small and defenseless POS's, which are shockingly still common in WH space. What's your average WH corp/alliance suppose to do when they find a POS with 4 guns or with no defenses at all.Neutral This isn't Hello Kitty Adventure Land. Razz

What's more shocking/interesting is the ratio of ships lost versus POS's destroyed in WH space. I'd like to see more info on that.


The polite thing is to tie a note on your first round of ammo, "Hi guys. We're taking your stuff." Given how many POS were popped, I guess there's a number of newbs having trouble arming/supplying their POS.

PinkFish
Posted - 2010.11.14 04:32:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 12/11/2010 15:37:40

the pictures are very nice


strawberry jam is a valid substitute for maple syrup on pancakes. Discuss instead.



I would like to weigh in on this discussion. While I understand that the eve economy is a very popular subject on these forums, I feel that pancakes, as the "earliest and most widespread food eaten in prehistoric societies" (wikipedia) deserves some serious consideration.

The very statement that Mme Pinkerton made shows incredible bias toward the origin of pancakes. The internet is a very big place and reaches into all corners of the world. It is quite presumptive to assume that to many of the people here maple syrup is a valid option on pancakes to begin with! Consider that in Swadia pancakes are served IN SOUP. I can hardly imagine a Swadian soup whereby adding maple syrup is a solid choice of condiment.

Mme Pinkerton I urge you to find a way to rephrase your question to soften your western pancake bias and acknowledge the multicultural diversity of this most ancient and delicious of foods.


 

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