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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.10 22:43:00 - [31]
 

The Jerk Cartel honors all ransoms, it's in our rules.

Or that may be 1v1s, I go get them

L4zor R0B0T
Gallente
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.11.10 23:20:00 - [32]
 

I LOVE HOW YOU HAVE POSTED WHICH CORPS YOU STATE DO AND DO NOT HONOR RANSOMS WHILE OFFERING ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE EITHER WAY. A LITTLE BUTT HURT ABOUT SOMETHING DAME DEATH? WAAAAH.

Quendishir
Caldari
The Immortal Dawn
Posted - 2010.11.10 23:23:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: L4zor R0B0T
I LOVE HOW YOU HAVE POSTED WHICH CORPS YOU STATE DO AND DO NOT HONOR RANSOMS WHILE OFFERING ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE EITHER WAY. A LITTLE BUTT HURT ABOUT SOMETHING DAME DEATH? WAAAAH.


There have been reports that specific members of Jerk Cartel don't honor 1v1s. However, from personal experience I have never had that problem with you guys. Anyone who knows the alliance from first-hand experience should back you up. ;)

SkwisgaarSkwigelf
Deliciously Vicious
Posted - 2010.11.10 23:42:00 - [34]
 

Swords Horses and Heavy Metal [SHHM] honors ransoms and will honor 1v1's if agreed upon.

If you need proof, I am sure we could dig some up.

Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.11.10 23:52:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Lars Lodar on 10/11/2010 23:53:31
I hope that you're just being butt hurt because if someone in Python has dishonored a ransom or 1v1, I'd really like to know. Our application explicitly states our stance:

#13: Are you willing to go to -10 security status, honor all 1 v 1's, and honor all ransoms?

If anyone has real evidence (chat logs/killmails/etc) of a member violating that rule, I will remove them from corp.

If not, you should take us off that list. There are plenty of reasons to slander us, but we will always honor ransoms/1v1s.

Helmh0ltz
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.11.11 00:13:00 - [36]
 

Posting to confirm my falcon alt and I always honor 1v1s.

Golden Helmet
Caldari
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.11.11 00:31:00 - [37]
 

If one of my guys broke a ransom \ 1 v 1 before they joined my corp, I don't care. What they do before joining Python is not my concern.

If one of them broke a ransom \ 1 v 1 after joining my corp, please provide some evidence and I'll boot them out in an instant.

We have extremely few rules; you can scam, rob (someone elses) corp, fleet invite random suckers to kill them, whatever floats your boat to get a kill. That's all allowed and encouraged. But the two rules we do have are absolutely non-negotiable and breaking them is not tolerated at all: those are honor your 1 v 1's, and honor your ransoms.

We're not required to offer or accept either (and, frankly, I encourage my guys to never offer or accept a 1 v 1), but if a ransom \ 1 v 1 is offered and\or accepted, play by the rules or GTFO of my corp.

If you're going to accuse my corp and alliance of breaking their end of the deal, provide some evidence or die in a fire with AIDS.


Dame Death
Minmatar
Core Impulse
Posted - 2010.11.11 01:31:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Dame Death on 11/11/2010 02:06:10

lars and gh they did contact me ig to get details.

was while they was in python and laser im doing it mainly from experince if i'm proved wrong ill change (guess who the back up was when that one was broke :P)

EDIT: Come on lars it takes more then what i think your on about to get me buthurt and you know it :P

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.11 01:43:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Dame Death
Edited by: Dame Death on 11/11/2010 01:35:58
lars and gh they did contact me ig to get details.

was while they was in python and laser im foin it mainly of eperince if i'm proved wrong il chnage (guess who the back up was when that one was broke :P)

I am from MADP

Mothers against Drunk Posting and this has been an example post of just how bad it can get. Notice even after the edit, the mistakes are still present.

When someone is smashed so the right thing and take there password.

Dame Death
Minmatar
Core Impulse
Posted - 2010.11.11 01:49:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Dame Death on 11/11/2010 02:03:48
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Dame Death
Edited by: Dame Death on 11/11/2010 01:35:58
lars and gh they did contact me ig to get details.

was while they was in python and laser im foin it mainly of eperince if i'm proved wrong il chnage (guess who the back up was when that one was broke :P)

I am from MADP

Mothers against Drunk Posting and this has been an example post of just how bad it can get. Notice even after the edit, the mistakes are still present.

When someone is smashed so the right thing and take there password.



I dont drink (often) just fail at proof reading the edit :P

Fixed (I think)

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.11.11 02:12:00 - [41]
 

When ransomed by the skool you can choose to either pay what we say or not. If you pay what we say we will destroy your ship and hopefully your pod. If you do NOT pay, we will destroy your ship and hopefully your pod, and then dispatch an agent to infiltrate your corp, work their way up the ranks and then at an opportune time take everything you and your corp owns, hopefully destroying your ship and podding you again.

It is your choice as to if us destroying your ship if you pay is considered a dishonoured ransom or not.

Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
Posted - 2010.11.11 03:39:00 - [42]
 

There is a pretty big difference between one of our guys stealing your loot and ganking you in a 1v1.

There was no in fight interference, otherwise you would have died easily. In fact you killed Pisces. Now did you guys settle on a loot policy before hand? 1 person ninja looting is NOT equivalent to our corp adopting a policy of being dishonorable.

Fitz420
Posted - 2010.11.11 05:45:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Fitz420 on 11/11/2010 05:45:24
Snatch vitcory will honor 1v1. We always ransom pods. Hey where merc's we like to make isk but ship losses are what we get paid for not the pods the the pod are what we ransom.Very Happy

Slimy Worm
The Skunkworks
Posted - 2010.11.11 05:53:00 - [44]
 

Quote:
Veto (ransoms only they dont do 1v1's at all)


Could you clarify this? Change it to "They honor ransoms, but their corp policy is to not accept 1v1's so they neither dishonor them nor partake in them."

Meridith Akesia
Stimulus
Posted - 2010.11.11 05:58:00 - [45]
 

I always honour ransoms and 1v1's

However i dont leave the forums these days.

Helios Black
Viziam
Posted - 2010.11.11 06:11:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Helios Black on 11/11/2010 06:12:11
Originally by: Dame Death
Originally by: Helios Black
Can you take quendishir off that list? Fighting with your alt (Aiden Vorlan) as backup doesn't count as a 1v1...


km link please.

will update list tomorrow


http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10696873

But that's just me looking quickly...

Helios Black
Viziam
Posted - 2010.11.11 06:19:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Helios Black on 11/11/2010 06:29:57
Double post...

Dame Death
Minmatar
Core Impulse
Posted - 2010.11.11 08:50:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Lars Lodar
There is a pretty big difference between one of our guys stealing your loot and ganking you in a 1v1.

There was no in fight interference, otherwise you would have died easily. In fact you killed Pisces. Now did you guys settle on a loot policy before hand? 1 person ninja looting is NOT equivalent to our corp adopting a policy of being dishonorable.


Lars raiper red boxed, sory but I know what i saw if its undelt with it stays. (after all what evidence for this can I trust more then my own eyes)and reason I survived was i was faster even webbed when i overloaded then peices plus raiper was at 35km I poped the last bit of peices then gtfo.

not my fault your guys cant take me even 2 v 1

Gibbo3771
Posted - 2010.11.11 08:52:00 - [49]
 

put me under dishonors 1v1's, i dishonor it before they do.

Andrea Skye
Caldari
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2010.11.11 09:02:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Andrea Skye on 11/11/2010 09:07:50
Originally by: Dame Death
Originally by: Lars Lodar
There is a pretty big difference between one of our guys stealing your loot and ganking you in a 1v1.

There was no in fight interference, otherwise you would have died easily. In fact you killed Pisces. Now did you guys settle on a loot policy before hand? 1 person ninja looting is NOT equivalent to our corp adopting a policy of being dishonorable.


Lars raiper red boxed, sory but I know what i saw if its undelt with it stays. (after all what evidence for this can I trust more then my own eyes)and reason I survived was i was faster even webbed when i overloaded then peices plus raiper was at 35km I poped the last bit of peices then gtfo.

not my fault your guys cant take me even 2 v 1



y u mad tho?

Provide chat logs and combat logs, showing Piscis agreeing to 1v1, and showing Laser attacking you, and then maybe we will think you arent full of ****.

I dont even get why your so uppity about it, you won the 1v1, you got your ship out alive apparently.. so what the **** is the problem?

EDITZ: and for the record, in my entire time in Python I have never known a 1v1 or ransom to be dishonoured, and Piscis and Lazor I have both flown with alot. There is no way in hell they would dishonour a ransom or 1v1. Your jsut butthurt cause you missed out on a bit of loot after a random engagement somewhere in lowsec.

HTFU

Dame Death
Minmatar
Core Impulse
Posted - 2010.11.11 10:05:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Dame Death on 11/11/2010 10:16:29
Edited by: Dame Death on 11/11/2010 10:14:03
Skye im not mad just posted it here so someone less able to deal with being jumped didnt fall into it.

If i hadnt seen it with my own eyes i wouldnt of belived it either.As I always had python down as always will honor until this, hence why I even took it.

as for logs as said raiper only webbed sono comabt logs, dohave chat logs ofpeices saying that the rest of python said he sudda ganked me with all of them not just one after the confrimation of a 1v1.

will sort when i get home

EDIT: Also mate if you ask about your see I nearly alays give loot back after a 1v1.

Its the breaking i'm fussed by not the loot not like i dont have isk already

Also whos being upptiy? I just added you as in my experince you've broke a 1v1. Dont get me wrong I've had plenty honored verus python before but only takes one bad egg to spoil the basket.

Now please leave it at that here and contact me ig for those logs as I dont wanna have to go though half dozen python crying posts everytime I update.

eocsnesemaj
Keskerakond
Posted - 2010.11.11 10:26:00 - [52]
 

I honor 1v1 and ransoms for alot for the reasons previously listed

Tuberider
Pothouse Cartel
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.11.11 10:43:00 - [53]
 

Idle Empire mostly ransom pods, as we like the loots and the pretty explosionsRazz

If your offered a chance to save your pod for isky then its honoured, any member found breaking this will be executed by me Laughing

1v1 are rare because i for one find it hard to trust those not within our ranks.

My last arranged 1v1 was Dame Death and that was a while ago now Twisted Evil

Dame Death
Minmatar
Core Impulse
Posted - 2010.11.11 10:45:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Dame Death on 11/11/2010 10:46:09
Originally by: Tuberider
Idle Empire mostly ransom pods, as we like the loots and the pretty explosionsRazz

If your offered a chance to save your pod for isky then its honoured, any member found breaking this will be executed by me Laughing

1v1 are rare because i for one find it hard to trust those not within our ranks.

My last arranged 1v1 was Dame Death and that was a while ago now Twisted Evil


Rematch? :p And yeh will add idle as their the guys that taught me to honor, and pvp for that matter >.>

Also changed veto to what was posted.

Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:17:00 - [55]
 

I think this is a good thread, thanks for starting it. It is refreshing to see that there are still some folks that have not joined the failwagon of greed and dishonesty.

Our corp policy since inception has always been if we make an agreement we follow through, in the event that an agreement is violated, victim is reimbursed promptly.

Regarding Python, I do not have personal experience being ransomed/1v1ing lately but I can say that I have spent some time flying with the original Python core (andrea/gh/spectre/etc) and when flying with them as well as them being in the Stare I never heard of any agreement being broken. I think that as a whole if I was ransomed by a Python gang that had any of their core members in it I would trust for them to follow through.

An additional corp that I know does offer ransoms/1v1's is Monsters, I don't know enough to be able to vouch for them, but if you are intending to continue research it would be worthwhile to look into their corp. I do not know a lot of them but the couple I do know have never given me reason to categorize them as untrustworthy.

Dame Death
Minmatar
Core Impulse
Posted - 2010.11.11 11:24:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Dame Death on 11/11/2010 11:51:32
Originally by: Gunner Cid
I think this is a good thread, thanks for starting it. It is refreshing to see that there are still some folks that have not joined the failwagon of greed and dishonesty.

Our corp policy since inception has always been if we make an agreement we follow through, in the event that an agreement is violated, victim is reimbursed promptly.

Regarding Python, I do not have personal experience being ransomed/1v1ing lately but I can say that I have spent some time flying with the original Python core (andrea/gh/spectre/etc) and when flying with them as well as them being in the Stare I never heard of any agreement being broken. I think that as a whole if I was ransomed by a Python gang that had any of their core members in it I would trust for them to follow through.

An additional corp that I know does offer ransoms/1v1's is Monsters, I don't know enough to be able to vouch for them, but if you are intending to continue research it would be worthwhile to look into their corp. I do not know a lot of them but the couple I do know have never given me reason to categorize them as untrustworthy.


Monsters have my vouch but I'm checking the old crew is still in it.

As for python yeh the core people are solid as I stated bbefore it was s afew bad eggs that dishonored

Edit: Also yeh I was surprised how many there is that still play by old school rules and honor their word :P

Nursultan
Pyrotechnics Inc.
Posted - 2010.11.11 13:07:00 - [57]
 

I honour duels and ransoms.

Piscis
Gallente
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2010.11.11 13:32:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Piscis on 11/11/2010 13:35:14
I will not bother to tell you all the total ***^%tard that Dame Slopster is but I will post the sum total of logs for the encounter in question.
This can be verified by CCP if needs be. NOTHING has been edited.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Channel ID: -15956751
Channel Name: Private Chat (Dame Death)
Listener: Piscis
Session started: 2010.11.06 22:25:28
---------------------------------------------------------------

[ 2010.11.06 22:25:35 ] Piscis > it lives
[ 2010.11.06 22:25:36 ] Dame Death > you wanta fight or not?
[ 2010.11.06 22:26:02 ] Piscis > i was sitting out gcc
[ 2010.11.06 22:26:09 ] Dame Death > chicken Sad
[ 2010.11.06 22:26:13 ] Piscis > where u
[ 2010.11.06 22:26:15 ] Dame Death > ill agro so it doesnt reset
[ 2010.11.06 22:26:18 ] Dame Death > plex
[ 2010.11.06 22:26:34 ] Dame Death > and what lives?

Where is any agreement here regarding a 1v1? We never even agreed to a formal 1v1 yet it was conducted as one during battle. I think Python should be commended here instead of this mud slinging attempt by a dyslexic. And the discussion continued on local

[ 2010.11.06 22:03:07 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Uuna Local Channel
[ 2010.11.06 22:08:36 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Manjonakko Local Channel
[ 2010.11.06 22:23:00 ] Dame Death > You piscis?
[ 2010.11.06 22:23:07 ] Dame Death > come back here Sad
[ 2010.11.06 22:31:59 ] Dame Death > gf
[ 2010.11.06 22:32:06 ] Piscis > gf
[ 2010.11.06 22:32:14 ] Dame Death > shame bout raiper
[ 2010.11.06 22:32:21 ] Piscis > why ?
[ 2010.11.06 22:32:21 ] Dame Death > took the agreement as 1v1
[ 2010.11.06 22:32:23 ] Dame Death > Tongue
[ 2010.11.06 22:32:29 ] Dame Death > i wnted loot Tongue
[ 2010.11.06 22:32:32 ] Piscis > let me get me lootz :0
[ 2010.11.06 22:32:39 ] L4zor R0B0T > do not attempt to loot
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:05 ] Dame Death > mate u basicly broke a 1v1
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:09 ] L4zor R0B0T > ahem
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:11 ] L4zor R0B0T > did I shoot oyu
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:13 ] L4zor R0B0T > no
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:14 ] L4zor R0B0T > so stfu
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:14 ] Dame Death > ofc im not gonna try to loot at halff armor
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:19 ] Piscis > he didnt shoot mate
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:20 ] Dame Death > u stopped me looting
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:25 ] Dame Death > witch is part of the 1v1
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:28 ] L4zor R0B0T > loot was not a part of the deal
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:52 ] Dame Death > is on a 1v1 mate
[ 2010.11.06 22:33:57 ] Dame Death > and ill be talking to gh
[ 2010.11.06 22:34:02 ] Piscis > u do that
[ 2010.11.06 22:34:09 ] L4zor R0B0T > have fun with that Im sure GH will rly help you
[ 2010.11.06 22:34:19 ] Dame Death > nd u redboed mate Tongue
[ 2010.11.06 22:35:33 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Uuna Local Channel

The only thing that really really and truly ultimately gets me down is that I lost a 1v1 to one of the worst pilots in this game http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=dame+death. Excuse me whilst I go bang my **** in a drawer.

I honour all 1v1's and all ransoms. He who claims I do not can shlurp down here.

Sedilis
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2010.11.11 14:10:00 - [59]
 

This thread is going places Very Happy

Oh and we honour all ransoms... but prefer kills Twisted Evil

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.11 14:11:00 - [60]
 

and the moral of the storey is always agree on looting rights.

Also that coulda been anyones Falcon Alt...

I'm innocent!


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