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EFT Worrier
Posted - 2010.11.03 09:59:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: EFT Worrier on 03/11/2010 10:01:00
Using only generic (meta0) modules and rigs, what is the best T1 cruiser fit you can come up with for PVP? No faction mods or ships pls.

Thanks.

DeBingJos
Minmatar
Goat Holdings
Posted - 2010.11.03 10:14:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: DeBingJos on 03/11/2010 10:18:37
[Rupture, pvp T0]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates I
Damage Control I
Gyrostabilizer I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I

10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier I
Warp Scrambler I

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I, EMP M
Small Energy Neutralizer I
Small Energy Neutralizer I

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Edit: Added rigs


Mike712
Posted - 2010.11.03 11:10:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Mike712 on 03/11/2010 11:15:07
With some basic e-war support skills this can easily put most ships out of the fight, it jams at almost 100km, a great way for a complete rookie to get into PvP.

The medium neut and assault missiles give it a reasonable defense against being tackled.

[Blackbird, Cheap jammer]
Signal Distortion Amplifier I
Signal Distortion Amplifier I

10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer I
ECM - Phase Inverter I
ECM - Ion Field Projector I
ECM - White Noise Generator I

Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
Medium Energy Neutralizer I

Medium Particle Dispersion Projector I
Medium Particle Dispersion Projector I
Medium Particle Dispersion Projector I


Sphit Ker
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.11.03 16:19:00 - [4]
 

[Augoror, leetpvp]
Medium Energy Transfer Array I
Medium Energy Transfer Array I
Medium Energy Transfer Array I
Medium Energy Transfer Array I

Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I

Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Acolyte I

Itís awesome, I swear.Neutral

jerichot
Cutish Brunts
Posted - 2010.11.03 19:55:00 - [5]
 

Rupture, stardard plate setup, wrecks any other T1 cruiser easily.

Leksi Bar'zuk
Posted - 2010.11.03 19:57:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: jerichot
Rupture, stardard plate setup, wrecks any other T1 cruiser easily.


Arby with td's would disagree with that statement.

Plocsk
Posted - 2010.11.03 19:59:00 - [7]
 

I'm an Arbi fan. I actually flew this when I was new.

[Arbitrator, meta 0]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Damage Control I
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates I

10MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier I
Tracking Disruptor I

Small Nosferatu I
Small Nosferatu I
Small Energy Neutralizer I
Small Energy Neutralizer I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead I x5
Hammerhead I x5
Warrior I x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.03 20:08:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 03/11/2010 20:10:39
Originally by: Plocsk
I'm an Arbi fan. I actually flew this when I was new.


I used something similar. I replaced the TD with a small cap boost with navy 400's and used 4 Nuets(unrigged). It almost killed a Myrm, I shiped up and took it down with my Cane(Riged CDSE's).

She was a fun lil boat.

Leksi Bar'zuk
Posted - 2010.11.03 20:08:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Plocsk
I'm an Arbi fan. I actually flew this when I was new.

[Arbitrator, meta 0]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Damage Control I
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates I

10MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier I
Tracking Disruptor I

Small Nosferatu I
Small Nosferatu I
Small Energy Neutralizer I
Small Energy Neutralizer I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead I x5
Hammerhead I x5
Warrior I x5
Hornet EC-300 x5



+1

Yuki Kulotsuki
Posted - 2010.11.03 20:28:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Plocsk
I'm an Arbi fan. I actually flew this when I was new.


+1 Arbi flyer.

I still fly mine but with T2/meta4 mods. I swap a web for a second TD, add scripts and run 3:1 neut to nos ratio. I love flying the YARRRbitrator.

Leksi Bar'zuk
Posted - 2010.11.03 20:35:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Yuki Kulotsuki
Originally by: Plocsk
I'm an Arbi fan. I actually flew this when I was new.


+1 Arbi flyer.

I still fly mine but with T2/meta4 mods. I swap a web for a second TD, add scripts and run 3:1 neut to nos ratio. I love flying the YARRRbitrator.


The td arby is a sex beef sandwhich. I still snicker at the number of matar pilots who under-estimate just how ****ed they are for engaging one. And I enccourage you to take the step up to a curse when you can, it makes the minmatar even more miserable. Twisted Evil

Buzz Killingdon
Posted - 2010.11.03 22:14:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Mike712
Edited by: Mike712 on 03/11/2010 11:15:07
With some basic e-war support skills this can easily put most ships out of the fight, it jams at almost 100km, a great way for a complete rookie to get into PvP.

The medium neut and assault missiles give it a reasonable defense against being tackled.

[Blackbird, Cheap jammer]
Signal Distortion Amplifier I
Signal Distortion Amplifier I

10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer I
ECM - Phase Inverter I
ECM - Ion Field Projector I
ECM - White Noise Generator I

Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
Medium Energy Neutralizer I

Medium Particle Dispersion Projector I
Medium Particle Dispersion Projector I
Medium Particle Dispersion Projector I




This.
Arbi can't beat what it can't target booya. Maybe HMLs instead of Assaults, but depends I guess

Leksi Bar'zuk
Posted - 2010.11.03 22:26:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Leksi Bar''zuk on 03/11/2010 22:29:19
Originally by: Buzz Killingdon

This.
Arbi can't beat what it can't target booya. Maybe HMLs instead of Assaults, but depends I guess


Only needs to target long enough to put the drones on and laugh. Not that a tracking dusruptor fit is going to be great against a launcher boat (derp), but you'd need serious balls to go looking for solo fights in a blackbirdy.

Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
Posted - 2010.11.03 22:45:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Florio on 03/11/2010 22:48:41
Edited by: Florio on 03/11/2010 22:47:20
Having fought many small gang fights and duels in t1 cruisers, I would say there is no clear winner. The arbitrator and rupture have been mentioned, and I would add that the small hybrid vexor is awesomesauce too. And all except the arbi stand a good chance of being toasted by a medium ecm-drone thorax. For larger gang fights then yeh the t1 BB is good (I've always gone for a 800mm plate/mwd/cap battery fit) but of course it sucks for 1v1. If pushed I'd vote for the arbi, certainly against a rupture.

Led Zeppelin420
Posted - 2010.11.04 14:41:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Led Zeppelin420 on 04/11/2010 14:47:38

I Like this i fly it in low sec lookin for smaller things to prey on, with better stuff of course

[Blackbird, t1]
Signal Distortion Amplifier I
Signal Distortion Amplifier I

ECM - Spatial Destabilizer I
ECM - Phase Inverter I
ECM - Ion Field Projector I
ECM - White Noise Generator I
ECM - Multispectral Jammer I
ECM - Multispectral Jammer I

Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher I, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher I, Widowmaker Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I

I load all three missile types to see which one will do more dmg then go with that one

You could swap out some of the ECMs for warp jammer and a web if you wanted to hold your opponent there

David Yanakov
Avis de Captura
Posted - 2010.11.04 19:42:00 - [16]
 

For effective, nothing is likely to beat the Arbitrator. For flat out murder when you just want a fun evening, I like the Thorax.


[Thorax, CheapGank]
Damage Control I
Reactor Control Unit I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I

10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier I
Warp Scrambler I

Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M



Hammerhead I x5

Not much point in rigs unless you upgrade a few things. Just grab on and make them die

Mike712
Posted - 2010.11.04 22:36:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk
Edited by: Leksi Bar''zuk on 03/11/2010 22:29:19
Originally by: Buzz Killingdon

This.
Arbi can't beat what it can't target booya. Maybe HMLs instead of Assaults, but depends I guess


Only needs to target long enough to put the drones on and laugh. Not that a tracking dusruptor fit is going to be great against a launcher boat (derp), but you'd need serious balls to go looking for solo fights in a blackbirdy.


The OP didn't state anything about solo, just PvP I still stand by that fit, it can be very effective even in the hands of a total rookie with low skills, all other t1 low SP cruiser setups are basically cannon fodder.

Leksi Bar'zuk
Posted - 2010.11.04 23:43:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Mike712
Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk
Edited by: Leksi Bar''zuk on 03/11/2010 22:29:19
Originally by: Buzz Killingdon

This.
Arbi can't beat what it can't target booya. Maybe HMLs instead of Assaults, but depends I guess


Only needs to target long enough to put the drones on and laugh. Not that a tracking dusruptor fit is going to be great against a launcher boat (derp), but you'd need serious balls to go looking for solo fights in a blackbirdy.


The OP didn't state anything about solo, just PvP I still stand by that fit, it can be very effective even in the hands of a total rookie with low skills, all other t1 low SP cruiser setups are basically cannon fodder.


Any ship is useful in a gang.

MegabitOne
Caldari
The Black Ops
Posted - 2010.11.05 11:27:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Buzz Killingdon
Originally by: Mike712
Edited by: Mike712 on 03/11/2010 11:15:07
With some basic e-war support skills this can easily put most ships out of the fight, it jams at almost 100km, a great way for a complete rookie to get into PvP.

The medium neut and assault missiles give it a reasonable defense against being tackled.

[Blackbird, Cheap jammer]
Signal Distortion Amplifier I
Signal Distortion Amplifier I

10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer I
ECM - Phase Inverter I
ECM - Ion Field Projector I
ECM - White Noise Generator I

Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
Medium Energy Neutralizer I

Medium Particle Dispersion Projector I
Medium Particle Dispersion Projector I
Medium Particle Dispersion Projector I




This.
Arbi can't beat what it can't target booya. Maybe HMLs instead of Assaults, but depends I guess

Maybe swap the MWD for a ECCM - Gravimetric I cos it s*cks to be counter-jammed :lol:

EFT Worrier
Posted - 2010.11.05 12:01:00 - [20]
 

surprised noone has posted a vexor fit. it would have been one of my first choices.

Jonah Sands
Posted - 2010.11.08 15:37:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Sphit Ker
[Augoror, leetpvp]
Medium Energy Transfer Array I
Medium Energy Transfer Array I
Medium Energy Transfer Array I
Medium Energy Transfer Array I

Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I

Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Acolyte I

Itís awesome, I swear.Neutral


Actually, how cool would it be if you could overload an enemy ship's capacitor, and blow the ship up by causing a catastrophic failure!! I WANT ONE!Twisted Evil

Andrea Griffin
Posted - 2010.11.08 19:22:00 - [22]
 

Maybe I'm a bit odd, but the Blaster Moa is always fun:


[Moa, T1M0]
Damage Control I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I

Large Shield Extender I
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier I
Warp Scrambler I

Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Small Nosferatu I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior I x3

Swap the CDFE for another Anti-EM if you'd like, they're pretty cheap. 19k EHP is nothing to sneeze at.

Leksi Bar'zuk
Posted - 2010.11.08 19:37:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: EFT Worrier
surprised noone has posted a vexor fit. it would have been one of my first choices.


Because the arbitrator is better in most situations and fills the same general role.

Shiho Weitong
Caldari
Koa Mai Hoku
Posted - 2010.11.08 20:17:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Shiho Weitong on 08/11/2010 20:17:57
Well... The AML Caracal is always fun to tote about low-sec. And it's a cheap loss as well.. This fit is obviously a lot better with T2 mods, but here goes.

[Caracal, ForTheLULZ]
Ballistic Control System I
Ballistic Control System I

Large Shield Extender I
Large Shield Extender I
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier I

Assault Missile Launcher I
Assault Missile Launcher I
Assault Missile Launcher I
Assault Missile Launcher I
Assault Missile Launcher I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Ed: And your flavor of drones of course

Sphit Ker
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.11.08 23:35:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Jonah Sands
Originally by: Sphit Ker
[Augoror, leetpvp]
Medium Energy Transfer Array I
Medium Energy Transfer Array I
Medium Energy Transfer Array I
Medium Energy Transfer Array I

Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I

Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Acolyte I

Itís awesome, I swear.Neutral


Actually, how cool would it be if you could overload an enemy ship's capacitor, and blow the ship up by causing a catastrophic failure!! I WANT ONE!Twisted Evil


Actually, it should cause some heat damage. At least rise the heat-o-meters, without actually damaging mods, until he does overload, which then explode the heat-induced damage, like. YARRRR!!

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2010.11.09 10:35:00 - [26]
 

What kind of pvp ?

For fleet stuff I would go with Blackbird with 1600 mm plate, signal dist. amp, mwd sensor booster and 4 racial jammers and empty high slots.

BadBone
Posted - 2010.11.10 18:32:00 - [27]
 

I know this ship is useless but it does have the surprise factor

[Celestis, Meta 0]
Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I
Damage Control I

10MN Afterburner I
Medium Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 200
Remote Sensor Dampener I, Scan Resolution Dampening
Large Shield Extender I
Warp Scrambler I

Heavy Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M
Medium Energy Neutralizer I

Vespa EC-600 x4

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.11.10 20:18:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk
Originally by: jerichot
Rupture, stardard plate setup, wrecks any other T1 cruiser easily.


Arby with td's would disagree with that statement.


Since flying a TD only Arbi is a great Idea fighting the most popular ship in game now, the Drake.

Lol Ruppy is generally considered the best T1 Cruiser for out and out brawling, can it be beat yes of course eve is Rock paper Scissors, but the ships that can beat it will die to a ton of other ships.

Vexxor has a chance cs the Ruppy but the Rup can kill its drones.

Arbi with TD`s is ok verse it but will melt to any missile or any ship that is setup for long range since its tracking matters not at that range, Oh forgot to mention Drones will eat it alive.

By asking what is best Cruiser you are asking what Cruiser is best in most situations, and that is the Ruppy. A TD Arbi is a niche ship at best, good luck on the approach to your target Twisted Evil

hjgjgfgfgsj
Posted - 2010.11.10 21:11:00 - [29]
 

caracal.

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.11.10 21:33:00 - [30]
 

My first stroll through 0.0 was in a Stabber. I came back alive too.


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