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Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.10.17 15:44:00 - [61]
 

Fair enough decision Noir.
Good luck CVA, maybe you'll get Providence back sooner than we thought :)

Layla Smyles
Caldari
54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry
Kugutsumen.
Posted - 2010.10.17 16:06:00 - [62]
 

As being in no official function whatsoever for the 54th Massachusetts Infantry, i can unoficially declare:
The Union must and WILL be restored!

For Glory.

Galthirion
Caldari
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.10.17 18:25:00 - [63]
 

Ive known alekz for a long time and he is a stand up guy. Ive seen provi change hands lots but one thing is for sure. CVA will take there home back. What people fail to see is alliances are only as strong as there weakest POS... this being the case the situation in provi has left to many strong willed groups of people able and willing to inflict damage on those currently there...all the "failcascade" this and that posts are cover ups...people realize now that there interests are at risk. its funny seeing peoples reactions when they see there money going down the drain. GL HF Noir, CVA.

Mickey Simon
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.10.17 21:27:00 - [64]
 

My exact words to Roastedpot(current Noir. member) when he revealed you had taken Sov.
"Ok that's pretty cool, but how are you going to defend it from anyone who wants to take it? Or your allies if they decide they want to replace you?"

I have a measure of respect for Noir. and for Alek, but outright warfare is not what you're good at. You're good at staying cloaked and harassing. You're good at "asset denial". You're not good at slugging it out, because you literally don't have the numbers and because you spend so much time not slugging it out because of kb efficiency you end up with less experience then even scrub 0.0 corps have at duking it out.

It's almost sad for those of you who made easy ISK off your space, but then again - if you didn't see this coming you were either too proud or too ignorant to think it could/would happen to you.

Hopefully all of this means that the NAP blob that was down south can **** off back to whichever hole it crawled back in and over the course of the next year Providence might return to what it used to be, which was more fun.
All that needs to happen is the other NAP blobs (like the one up north which is full of bads) will also **** off and 0.0 will be much more fun for everyone.

Mr Goldfish
Caldari
Ceptacemia
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2010.10.17 21:42:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Liam Fremen
Mercenary Group + Conquerable space = Bad Rolling Eyes


Liam, Razor alliance? What happend? Enlighten me please.

Taram Caldar
Caldari
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2010.10.17 23:13:00 - [66]
 

TBH Noir. is better off without the anchor of sov space around their necks. But anyone *****ing about them not defending the space needs to go back and re-read the posts they made when they originally took it. They never had any real intention of defending it against a serious attacker.

Also, given the utter chaos Provi is in I can't really blame anyone for not sticking around. You guys are like a pack of jackals. I may not particularly *like* CVA but Provi was far better when they were in charge than it has been with the current residents.

Percivs
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.10.18 01:38:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Taram Caldar
TBH Noir. is better off without the anchor of sov space around their necks. But anyone *****ing about them not defending the space needs to go back and re-read the posts they made when they originally took it. They never had any real intention of defending it against a serious attacker.
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COAD has never been about intelligent debate or dialog, but I have to say it's good to see that there are some people who actually pay attention.

I would debate with you though, that they didn't say they wouldn't defend it against a serious attacker... what they said was that they would always place a completing a contract at a higher priority to sovereignty wars. Once their contracts were up, they would return with the intention of putting the hurt on anyone who messed with their space.

http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=5_15&page=3

And their carebear renters left the region long before Kadeshi attacked 2V- or took C1-. Those that remained did attempt to stage fleets to attack hostile resources. We just didn't have the kind of resources necessary to combat PL hotdropping three supercarriers on us during the early phase of the war and IT Allianace hot dropping multiple carriers/battleship on us during the mid-to-present part of the war. But we were out there killing structures and putting stuff in to reinforced when we could.

COAD will say there is shame in not being PL or another of the heavyweight combat alliances, but that's just political grandstanding.

I do agree that in the end, it's probably better for NOIR to no longer have sov space around their necks.

Blackhorizon
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.10.18 02:43:00 - [68]
 

lol Noir.

When SickBoy of Maru Ka'ge fame is saying you're worthless, perhaps it's time to think of disbanding.


Omal Oma
Gallente
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.10.18 03:38:00 - [69]
 

Edited by: Omal Oma on 18/10/2010 03:53:54

I'm not supposed to post here...

I need to respond to this topic.

Noir, you guys were very effective against us in Provi when I lived there. I know poilitics arent your thing, but you may consider taking a side on this one.

I'm one of those fools who is honored to have been blown up by you guys, look back, faction fit domi...on a 1 month old character. I fit faction so I could tank the rats. I was such a dumbass, I thought that fitting out with more tank (faction) that I'd get past you... boy was I wrong. When my pvp admiral learned about this... I heard it for days. Learned my lesson and moved on.

CVA ran a shop in Provi that was unique in EVE. The more I grow, the more I realize this. Provi gave me a home to start, where provi was wrong was that it allowed alliances to get fat. Where it helped me was an introduction. IMO, you guys should run the show on "if an entity gets too fat, it's your job to make life difficult for them"...

du et.

Keep provi NRDS, but make sure the alliances enforcing it are on their toes. Fat alliaces who want to grow and become powerful in null shouldn't be doing it in provi. Provi is training grounds and CVA should lead it up. I and many of the other alliances who started there cannot disagree that CVA/Provi had it's place. It's still something that should exist. If provi gets too small for the training grounds to exist, New Eden should back up it's expansion.



What I've said here is my opinion. I don't represent my alliance.

Talia al'Ghul
Amarr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.10.18 04:42:00 - [70]
 

itt providence hurf blurf

Alghara
Amarr
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.10.18 07:41:00 - [71]
 

Amarr Victory

Providence was the place where i have began to learn 0.0 and also who my corporation have had a chance to have a small place in 0.0

For that, I have only one thing to say.

Great Thank for that.

And good luck CVA for your new start in Providence




Hinkledolph
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.10.18 07:44:00 - [72]
 

I liked a bit Noir. before they went into all sov crap. Now I don't like them anymore.

Mrwes Molari
Minmatar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.10.18 08:14:00 - [73]
 

CVA....YOU HAVE MY RIFTER..

Halor Glaw
Amarr
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2010.10.18 08:40:00 - [74]
 

noir is like the old lone bluesman. hes sitting lonely in a bus stop playing his harp. what an enchanting music! as for the rest of u trolls have fun with britney spears :p

good luck noir, whatever u do :)

Johnny Ringo
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.18 11:15:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Blackhorizon
lol Noir.

When SickBoy of Maru Ka'ge fame is saying you're worthless, perhaps it's time to think of disbanding.




Again for the learning disabled: Sickboy contracted us to do max damage on a pay per damage basis. When we did far more damage than he anticipated, he breached the contract and refused payment. We then camped him and his corp into their NPC stations until they cried uncle and we got bored. IIRC some other merc alliances joined in the fun as well just to teach a lesson to those who contract and don't pay. Now Sickboy trolls the forums, but he's still fail, as you well recongnize. If every alliance disbanded when some troll said ugly things about them on CAOD, there'd be a lot fewer alliances.

Johnny Ringo
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.18 11:22:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Taram Caldar
TBH Noir. is better off without the anchor of sov space around their necks.


Oh, and this. Twisted Evil

Kimsemus
Amarr
Muppet Factory
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.10.18 14:14:00 - [77]
 

This Thread Delivers.

RedSplat
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.10.18 14:50:00 - [78]
 

Edited by: RedSplat on 18/10/2010 14:56:14
That this thread is still front page? Yeah.

Hi Maru Kage. Hi Sickboy. You still broke?

The Glorious 54th is coming to deliver Providence.

http://miniurl.com/60777

Xpaulusx
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.10.18 14:59:00 - [79]
 

Moar Prov Drama, dosen't get any better than this, grabs popcorn.

Shinma Apollo
Caldari
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2010.10.18 15:24:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Johnny Ringo
Originally by: Blackhorizon
lol Noir.

When SickBoy of Maru Ka'ge fame is saying you're worthless, perhaps it's time to think of disbanding.




Again for the learning disabled: Sickboy contracted us to do max damage on a pay per damage basis. When we did far more damage than he anticipated, he breached the contract and refused payment. We then camped him and his corp into their NPC stations until they cried uncle and we got bored. IIRC some other merc alliances joined in the fun as well just to teach a lesson to those who contract and don't pay. Now Sickboy trolls the forums, but he's still fail, as you well recongnize. If every alliance disbanded when some troll said ugly things about them on CAOD, there'd be a lot fewer alliances.


I'm really happy for you, an Imma let you finish, but me and two guys did more damage in two hours of playing with MK then you did all week. In fact, I'd probably say SUAP had more to do with the disbanding of MK (we had their FCs bubbling their own fleets because they liked us better) then you did.

Alekseyev Karrde
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.18 15:30:00 - [81]
 

Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 18/10/2010 15:31:24
Originally by: Shinma Apollo
Originally by: Johnny Ringo
Originally by: Blackhorizon
lol Noir.

When SickBoy of Maru Ka'ge fame is saying you're worthless, perhaps it's time to think of disbanding.




Again for the learning disabled: Sickboy contracted us to do max damage on a pay per damage basis. When we did far more damage than he anticipated, he breached the contract and refused payment. We then camped him and his corp into their NPC stations until they cried uncle and we got bored. IIRC some other merc alliances joined in the fun as well just to teach a lesson to those who contract and don't pay. Now Sickboy trolls the forums, but he's still fail, as you well recongnize. If every alliance disbanded when some troll said ugly things about them on CAOD, there'd be a lot fewer alliances.


I'm really happy for you, an Imma let you finish, but me and two guys did more damage in two hours of playing with MK then you did all week. In fact, I'd probably say SUAP had more to do with the disbanding of MK (we had their FCs bubbling their own fleets because they liked us better) then you did.


Oh yeah they disbanded way after all the contract stuff was over, we dont pretend to take credit for that. All ISK donations and flowers should be sent to Shinma hehe

Shinma Apollo
Caldari
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2010.10.18 17:00:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: Shinma Apollo on 18/10/2010 17:02:40
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 18/10/2010 15:31:24
Originally by: Shinma Apollo
Originally by: Johnny Ringo
Originally by: Blackhorizon
lol Noir.

When SickBoy of Maru Ka'ge fame is saying you're worthless, perhaps it's time to think of disbanding.




Again for the learning disabled: Sickboy contracted us to do max damage on a pay per damage basis. When we did far more damage than he anticipated, he breached the contract and refused payment. We then camped him and his corp into their NPC stations until they cried uncle and we got bored. IIRC some other merc alliances joined in the fun as well just to teach a lesson to those who contract and don't pay. Now Sickboy trolls the forums, but he's still fail, as you well recongnize. If every alliance disbanded when some troll said ugly things about them on CAOD, there'd be a lot fewer alliances.


I'm really happy for you, an Imma let you finish, but me and two guys did more damage in two hours of playing with MK then you did all week. In fact, I'd probably say SUAP had more to do with the disbanding of MK (we had their FCs bubbling their own fleets because they liked us better) then you did.


Oh yeah they disbanded way after all the contract stuff was over, we dont pretend to take credit for that. All ISK donations and flowers should be sent to Shinma hehe


And I write this with the due ironic deference that comes with my current corp, but you guys weren't willing to engage em in x-7O, and instead were just cloak ***ging about surrounding systems against an alliance who only did undock games. If anything Alek, it's your weakness, you guys are pretty risk adverse at least in terms of the contracts I've seen you do, because your pay structure benefits "HUGE ISK DAMAGES" with really substansive delivery of breaking morale being left unattained. Other corps, such as DNS, well outperform you in terms of black ops dropping. (your tech level on that seems fairly low)

Don't take this as a "YOU SUCK" post Alek, but merely constructive criticism of certain systemic flaws that have been incorporated into your operational proceedures that leave the corp coming off as lackluster. Try to deversify a bit and be less risk adverse in the performance of your contracts, and you'll do yourself and your clients a good service.

edit: I realized ironical is not a word.

Sonreir
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.10.18 17:04:00 - [83]
 

Wow, Alek... All in one post you manage to:
a.) Completely ignore all the facts and history of the situation
b.) Be a massive hypocrite
c.) Refuse to accept responsibility for any of the actions you or your alliance has taken

I like doing the TL;DR version first, so now let me expand...

a.) D'K is in the trouble they're in because they ran their mouths off and intentionally drug the rest of Provi into a war where there was little chance of success. Now if PL had come in looking to take all of Provi, the situation would have played out differently. We all would have fought shoulder-to-shoulder and died together, but they weren't here to invade Providence. They were only here to give a misbehaving child a well-needed spanking. D'K provoked that one and expected the other alliances to pay the butcher's bill. No thank you.

Unfortunately, one ass-whopping wasn't enough to get through to them that they need to tone it down and a decision was made to remove them from Providence. That decision was made not, as many would have you believe, for purposes of conquest, but because it was best for the long-term stability and security of the region. If someone is rocking the boat, you sit them back down (with force, if necessary). We can't be in a NIP with another alliance who insists on poking hornet's nests and then expects their friends to pick up the tab.

Now as to the facts of your situation: Not even one week ago there was a Provi TS meeting where we were all present to discuss the situation. I'm pretty sure you were there (someone from NOIR was), although you arrived 30 minutes late. And based upon your actions after that meeting you were probably AFK for most of it; smoking a joint. If you think back over your THC-clouded memories you may recall us bringing Derwent into the meeting to discuss The Kadeshi coming into Provi. We offered them ZQ2-CF constellation and told them if they continue going after your space then all of Provi would be there to fight them. But I'm sure that we got two dozen of all the alliance's leaders into the same TS channel just to convince you were WEREN'T plotting against you. That makes much more sense, right?

b.) So now you call us back-stabbers for failing to honor the NIP. I admit, there is room to discuss the way things were handled with D'K and I'm sure there could have been improvement on both sides of the fence. But in your mind two wrongs make a right? You really think calling us out for not sticking to the letter of the NIP and then flipping your space to CVA makes you the good guys? It makes you vindictive and childish. Multiple opportunities have existed to salvage this situation and you've repeatedly ignored them. And the icing on the cake? You guys didn't help D'K against PL, either.

c.) And now you attempt to lay all this trouble at other people's doorsteps. The fact of the matter is that real leaders take responsibility for the situations in which they find themselves. You can't join into a NIP and then not uphold your side of the bargain. You guys rarely participated in any of the Provi-wide meetings, and rarely joined up in any fleets against CVA or other intruders. Absentee landlords would be the polite way of saying you were never here and never active in the region. So now after our pilots have fought and died to help hold your space while you messed about in Jita you have the nerve to come in here and tell us you've been mistreated? Good riddance.

Bors DeGanis
Minmatar
Warriors tribe
DarkSide.
Posted - 2010.10.18 19:58:00 - [84]
 

Reminder to all of the 54th that we have a REDPENCTAOP in just over a hour.

Not many logged in yet and we need more.

Capital fleet is on standby.

fakedit: oops wrong forums

Efreid Helbrecht
Gallente
Saberick Interest and Development
Free Traders of EVE
Posted - 2010.10.18 20:05:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Elendar
So after trying to fight ... for 3 days ... then you surrendered all your stations ... within what, a day? and you have the gall to suggest that you could be a competitor ...?

...

... considering that all you seem capable of doing without running away ... rent-a-bully is probably the best you deserve.

.... Why anyone would ever hire these scrubs is beyond me.


So... How's Fountain these days? Oh wai... U mad?

Hannibal Ord
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.18 20:05:00 - [86]
 

Edited by: Hannibal Ord on 18/10/2010 20:07:54

Originally by: Sonreir
STUFF about being in Jita and defending space


I personally was in Period Basis, and all of us operate out of Amarr, not Jita, for our resupply so I'm not really sure where you get your information from.

And helping to hold our space is not the same as blue listing the people shooting at it and pretending nothing is going on.

CVA are at least, honest.

Sonreir
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.10.18 20:18:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Sonreir on 18/10/2010 20:27:54
Originally by: Hannibal Ord
Edited by: Hannibal Ord on 18/10/2010 20:07:54

I personally was in Period Basis, and all of us operate out of Amarr, not Jita, for our resupply so I'm not really sure where you get your information from.

And helping to hold our space is not the same as blue listing the people shooting at it and pretending nothing is going on.

CVA are at least, honest.


The Jita comment wasn't meant to be interpretted in the literal sense. I could just have easily said Rens or Dodixie or EC-P8R. The fact of the matter remains; you guys were elsewhere while the allies that you so recently betrayed were doing all the heavy-lifing on your behalf.

As for the blue comments, you're dead wrong again. We only set Kadeshi blue after you guys stabbed us in the back. As a matter of fact we went so far as to reset MC once we heard they were taking a contract against you.

So congratulations, you took up false intel provided by a third party and used it to screw over your allies.

Hannibal Ord
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.18 20:27:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Sonreir
The Jita comment wasn't meant to be interpretted in the literal sense. I could just have easily said Rens or Dodixie or EC-P8R. The fact of the matter remains; you guys were elsewhere while the allies that you so recently betrayed were doing all the heavy-lifing on your behalf.

As for the blue comments, you're dead wrong again. We only set Kadeshi blue after you guys stabbed us in the back. As a matter of fact we went to far as to reset MC once we heard they were taking a contract against you.

So congratulations, you took up false intel provided by a third party and used it to screw over your allies.


Now now, don't backtrack coz you don't know the difference between Jita and Amarr.

We were elsewhere yes, doing our own stuff. Which everyone in Providence knew we would be doing since the start. I got handsomely paid for Period Basis. I was so happy my nipples almost fell off.

Sonreir
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.10.18 20:30:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Hannibal Ord
Now now, don't backtrack coz you don't know the difference between Jita and Amarr.

We were elsewhere yes, doing our own stuff. Which everyone in Providence knew we would be doing since the start. I got handsomely paid for Period Basis. I was so happy my nipples almost fell off.


If your level of intelligence is indicative of the rest of NOIR, I'm sorry we didn't set Kadeshi and MC blue earlier. Do you really think I (or anyone else in Provi, for that matter) care where you were? We only care about where you were supposed to be.

Hannibal Ord
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.10.18 20:32:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Sonreir


We only care about where you were supposed to be.


Exactly. On contract.



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