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Vexion Daran
Gallente
Templars of Space
Northern Associates.
Posted - 2010.10.13 07:59:00 - [91]
 

What is so hard to grasp what CCP did here?

To give new people a little more chance to enjoy the game they put this option in. So what. if you have 90 mil skillponts, you feel threatend by this? Hope not.

EVE is not about skillpoints. There are still enough noobs with 90 mil sp getting killed by far less sp chars in EVE. SP only allows you to fly some more ships and use some more mods. For a new guy nowadays to join a fleet...he has to fly some good stuff. If a new guy has to wait 6 months to do this...now he can experience it a little faster. Stop crying about it.

I said it before and i'll say it again...learn to play EVE....do not mistake SP with skills. SP only lets you fly certain ships and use certain mods.

xttz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:00:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: HeIIfire11
No its the guy that thought it would be fun too troll the forum a bit before leaving to see how many jack asses bite.And see there it got 5 pages of lolz.You jealous?

*posts like a moron after previous examples of posting like a moron*

*people call him out for posting like a moron*

"haha guys I totally trolled you all with my comprehensive history of being a moron on the internet! aren't I clever??!!?"

*remains a moron*

Zaqar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:03:00 - [93]
 

Doesn't anyone think the newbies are gonna be a bit disappointed when, after 30 days, their damage drops by 20%?

xttz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:08:00 - [94]
 

Also I can't see how this is anything but a good thing. It's basically a free +3 set and damage mod for new players that expires after their first month. Anything that helps to
a) reduce the monotony of training useful initial skills, and
b) make new players more effective in combat before their skills are up to scratch.
is good for everyone.

However a better option to do it may be to use the new SP allocation mechanic. When I first started the thing I hated most was the monotony of waiting around for the first level of a skill to finish in order to use a new toy. Give newbies a prize of a few thousand SP for completing certain training missions, to spend as they like.

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:08:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Vexion Daran


To give new people a little more chance to enjoy the game they put this option in. So what. if you have 90 mil skillponts, you feel threatend by this? Hope not.




People didnt need a little more chance to enjoy the game before. And it didnt stoop to grow player base a lot.

Instant gratification much ?

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:15:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: V3xy
Its hardly that overpowered as all peeps are saying....
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5525/cerebralaccelerator.png
Image changed to a URL - Adida

Its just a +3 to all implant and a dps increase for the n00bs to help them do missions they should not be doing.

The +20% Rate of Fire seems to be for "Missile weaponry" only and the 20% damage for Laser, Projectile and Hybrid weaponry

Not really that great, also you seem to only get 1 of these boosters per account...

Chill out guys.......


Yes but this implant will put genuine new players on a level basis with twinked alts and THAT WILL BE THE END OF EVE AS WE KNOW IT.

Zions Child
Caldari
The Resident Haunting
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:19:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Malcanis

Yes but this implant will put genuine new players on a level basis with twinked alts and THAT WILL BE THE END OF EVE AS WE KNOW IT.


Twinked? What, is EVE finally getting a Gay **** Delivery Service installed into it?

/sarcasm


Also +1

LMA'''''''''''''''''O
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:25:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Lu Hsun
Edited by: Lu Hsun on 13/10/2010 01:24:28
Quote:
This latest boxed edition[Commisioned Officer Edition] will include an exclusive in-game item, the Cerebral Accelerator, which is a military-grade implant that significantly increases a new pilots skill development.


Source:
Official Press Release
Repeated on on
MMORPG.com
Worthplaying
MOGD

Sure, it's only more skillpoints for the first 30 days.
But this is a step in the wrong direction.

The Interbus Shuttle can be written off as a pointless peice of promotional garbage.
But a significant boost to training time is going to far.


OH MY GOD SOME GUY IS GOING TO BE DOING 20 DEE PEE ESS A SECOND TO ME IN HIS KESTREL WITH HIS +200000% DAMAGE IMPLANT AND HIS FRIGATE V WHAT THE **** GUISE

Paknac Queltel
Baden's Army
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:25:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: Paknac Queltel
Originally by: Zions Child
Also, as new players, they can easily not put the implant to any sort of good use.
I'm not a new player, but I am in need of an alt. I will be buying this nice box.

And I imagine that's what a lot of people in this thread are afraid of.

I do so hope the box comes with a manual. ^_^


Lol, I suppose that could be something. But that being said, a set of +3's isn't particularly useful. Sure, it might cut down on the amount of time required to make a long-term alt, but the total difference of adding this implant would add a bit more than 277k skill points to your character over 35 days.

So, assuming you include the learning skill difference and how it would reduce the amount of time required to train learning, it would probably add somewhere between 277 and 300k skill points. A lot for a new player, but barely anything for a character over a few months of age. I mean, seriously, thats what, one rank 5 skill to lvl 4 and some change? And its a one time boost, and to one new character only.
But dude, SP fur ISK hurr! Onoez, to the whambulance!

Or at least, that's how I imagine it goes. I'm having trouble understanding it, myself...

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:29:00 - [100]
 

So now we finally know.

CONCORD trains with +3s.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:35:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: Malcanis

Yes but this implant will put genuine new players on a level basis with twinked alts and THAT WILL BE THE END OF EVE AS WE KNOW IT.


Twinked? What, is EVE finally getting a Gay **** Delivery Service installed into it?

/sarcasm


Also +1


Um, everyone is EVE is already gay. EVE is the gay MMO.

Oh man, wait dont tell me you're not? Didn't anyone tell you? I mean surely it was obvious?

Never mind sweetie, as long as you dont make a fuss, nobody minds.

Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
Halinallen veroparatiisi
Inglorious Carebears
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:42:00 - [102]
 

Hey, if they need money to keep Eve up...and it's concentrated to get more newbies into the game (and them playing) why not. I prefer having fresh newbies paying Eve rather than me paying ;) (or no eve at all).

I have no problems in some newbie getting +3 implants in the beginning if he pays for it and thus makes Eve better (CCP needs money). I do have problems if you can get free SP with plexes for example. Any bigger Alliance/corp could speedboost their characters to 40mil SP in no time. THAT would be a problem.

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.10.13 08:59:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Lu Hsun
Edited by: Lu Hsun on 13/10/2010 01:24:28
Quote:
This latest boxed edition[Commisioned Officer Edition] will include an exclusive in-game item, the Cerebral Accelerator, which is a military-grade implant that significantly increases a new pilots skill development.


Source:
Official Press Release
Repeated on on
MMORPG.com
Worthplaying
MOGD

Sure, it's only more skillpoints for the first 30 days.
But this is a step in the wrong direction.

The Interbus Shuttle can be written off as a pointless peice of promotional garbage.
But a significant boost to training time is going to far.


Uhm, while I am very much against microtransactions, this is quite a different thing, it is a temporary item to boost true newbies ( not players that already have another character ). I think this is a great idea and something that should be applauded.

Commander Azrael
Red Federation
Posted - 2010.10.13 10:48:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Commander Azrael on 13/10/2010 10:49:02
Originally by: CyberGh0st
Originally by: Lu Hsun
Edited by: Lu Hsun on 13/10/2010 01:24:28
Quote:
This latest boxed edition[Commisioned Officer Edition] will include an exclusive in-game item, the Cerebral Accelerator, which is a military-grade implant that significantly increases a new pilots skill development.


Source:
Official Press Release
Repeated on on
MMORPG.com
Worthplaying
MOGD

Sure, it's only more skillpoints for the first 30 days.
But this is a step in the wrong direction.

The Interbus Shuttle can be written off as a pointless peice of promotional garbage.
But a significant boost to training time is going to far.


Uhm, while I am very much against microtransactions, this is quite a different thing, it is a temporary item to boost true newbies ( not players that already have another character ). I think this is a great idea and something that should be applauded.



Agreed, It won't affect existing player much if at all and gives nubs a boost. I think people's backs are just up atm with the whole plex for remap issue but this isn't that big of a deal.

Lillith Starfire
Posted - 2010.10.13 11:05:00 - [105]
 

In capitalist Iceland, skills train you!

Jarne
Caldari
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Posted - 2010.10.13 11:08:00 - [106]
 

Wait, Caldari (i.e. missiles) get 20% ROF bonus, which equals +25% dps, while the other factions get 20% damage bonus, which, well, equals +20% dps?

Way to increase Caldari numbers even more...

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2010.10.13 11:22:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: V3xy
Its hardly that overpowered as all peeps are saying....
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5525/cerebralaccelerator.png
Image changed to a URL - Adida

Its just a +3 to all implant and a dps increase for the n00bs to help them do missions they should not be doing.

The +20% Rate of Fire seems to be for "Missile weaponry" only and the 20% damage for Laser, Projectile and Hybrid weaponry

Not really that great, also you seem to only get 1 of these boosters per account...

Chill out guys.......


Yes but this implant will put genuine new players on a level basis with twinked alts and THAT WILL BE THE END OF EVE AS WE KNOW IT.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.10.13 11:23:00 - [108]
 

ibtl for ranting, or complaining in general. Or maybe the painters are in.

Cunane
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2010.10.13 12:00:00 - [109]
 

I'm in two minds about this, as for new players it's a fantastic idea and will hopefully see new blood giving the game a fair chance and enjoying it that little bit more, and yeah the damage will fall off but hopefully they will have decided the game is for them, and have some skills behind them to enjoy it.

The bad part is vets buying this, doing the advanced combat career agent, then going straight into factional warfare or just going into pvp. Hello Incursus with 20% damage bonus to blasters, and as for the Rifter, well thats just a plain scary thought, though of course if they get podded, problem solved.

So overall I'm for it and I hope it has the effect of bringing a fresh batch of players at the same time.

Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
Posted - 2010.10.13 12:02:00 - [110]
 

Even with an experienced vet pulling the strings, there is very little to fear from a <35 day old character.

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2010.10.13 12:46:00 - [111]
 

Better than the crappy shuttle they gave away in the last boxed edition.

heheheh
Phoenix Club
Posted - 2010.10.13 13:17:00 - [112]
 

Anyone that think this is a major game changing feature, doesnt have the required intellect to play eve anyway.

Mike TheMiner
Posted - 2010.10.13 13:30:00 - [113]
 

Players have always been able to buy SP for RL cash.
Buy Plex, sell plex and buy a new char with the ISK.
By the OPs bizarre logic, the 35 day boosters or whatever they are dont even get near this method in terms of the amount of SP you can buy.

Baneken
Gallente
The New Knighthood
Apocalypse Now.
Posted - 2010.10.13 13:45:00 - [114]
 

To sum it up for the bitter vets (tm) here:

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2010.10.13 13:53:00 - [115]
 

Edited by: Mag''s on 13/10/2010 13:57:52

I don't see anything wrong with this at all. I'm all for helping out new players.

Edit:
Originally by: Baneken
To sum it up for the bitter vets (tm) here:


If you're trying to troll vets, at least use the correct .

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.10.13 18:59:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Baneken
To sum it up for the bitter vets (tm) here:



I will use that button for microtransactions, but not for a nice newbie buff :p

Aldor
Posted - 2010.10.13 20:39:00 - [117]
 

I always smile when I see how worked up people get about this and the whole micro transaction thing. Here is my take:

As an industrialist in the game I hope they give all newbies the biggest helping hand they can! Hell give them 1,000x training speed for the first 6 months. Throw those newbies right into lvl 4 missions with BCs. More people for me to sell to! And they're inexperienced to boot so they'll get blown up alot more than someone like me who had to learn how to play at the pace the game was designed with. Is it fair that a new person can reach the level in 6 months that took me years to get to? Probably not. Will it ruin my gaming experience? Probably not.

No matter how many skills they have or what they can fly EVE still requires some brainpower skills to master. And no boxed set or microtransaction can buy that. So bring it! Hell stock the friggin things on walmart shelves for all I care. The more the merrier!

Voith
Posted - 2010.10.13 22:31:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: ForumWarrior
Originally by: Sadayiel
Considering the way EVE works i bet that if it's an extra 5% implant plug or something like that on overall exp increase 3 things may happen.


Slot 4 implant.

Bonuses: +3 to all attributes; +20% Damage to Laser, Projectile and Hybrid weaponry; +20% Rate of Fire to Missile weaponry

And the important part for everyone freaking the hell out:

Maximum Pilot Age: 35 days


It is totally unfair.

New pilots get a ton of Advantages, like being the first to explore new areas, having ABC rocks in Empire, not having to deal with Tracking and Sig size while ISKing up!!!


Oh wait, those where the advantages I got when I started...

Oops.

Bhattran
Posted - 2010.10.13 22:56:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Aldor
I always smile when I see how worked up people get about this and the whole micro transaction thing. Here is my take:

As an industrialist in the game I hope they give all newbies the biggest helping hand they can! Hell give them 1,000x training speed for the first 6 months. Throw those newbies right into lvl 4 missions with BCs. More people for me to sell to! And they're inexperienced to boot so they'll get blown up alot more than someone like me who had to learn how to play at the pace the game was designed with. Is it fair that a new person can reach the level in 6 months that took me years to get to? Probably not. Will it ruin my gaming experience? Probably not.

No matter how many skills they have or what they can fly EVE still requires some brainpower skills to master. And no boxed set or microtransaction can buy that. So bring it! Hell stock the friggin things on walmart shelves for all I care. The more the merrier!


The problem with that is appealing to the lowest common denominator isn't always a good thing. You are talking about raw numbers short term that's good but long term it isn't, CCP's big wigs are like you, "let's get more new people in, who cares if they quit so long as they pay for a while, cause once they figure **** out they won't need to pay us". Maybe that is part of why they seem to not give a damn about making established/old/what have you players happy over getting new ones in.

Also a boost for new players is fine, kind of like putting training wheels on a bike then yanking them off whether or not the kid learned how to ride w/o them IMO, but the boost can't last forever and at least might facilitate more fun for the new players. I could probably think of more/better ways to do that but there is a fine line to helping show EVE off and giving away the store then dumping them out in the street in that alley where the cat's eat their young.

25% boost to caldari, of course because as a new player they are all going to realize that a 25% rof bonus is superior to a 20% damage bonus when they are looking at the character creation system.


Misanthra
Posted - 2010.10.13 23:23:00 - [120]
 

Edited by: Misanthra on 13/10/2010 23:30:57
Originally by: Jarne
Wait, Caldari (i.e. missiles) get 20% ROF bonus, which equals +25% dps, while the other factions get 20% damage bonus, which, well, equals +20% dps?

Way to increase Caldari numbers even more...



don't worry...they'll x-train st aome point. It usually starts when the pvp bug hits and they get tired of seeing targets die before the missiles hit them. then they get tired finding targets that will not be primaries anytime soon (cause if you follow FC primary calls you won't kill a damn thing). then the straw that breaks the camels back is the caps suck (at least ccp could have given a damn hybrid based dread...its not like when bashing a station the thing is going to speed tank to throw off tracking lol). Then they realize ooh crap, minny and amarr have sr and lr weapons that work right and head to those greener pastures.

Race just a picture and a bio in this game...unless a roleplayer, don't mean anything. If a roleplayer...to each there own (but seek some help lol).


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