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Doragon Makina
Posted - 2010.10.05 02:55:00 - [1]
 

I always hear people say a high fac standing is important, not only let you get offers more easily or set up a high-sec pos, but also let you refuse many missions you dont want to do. Is that true?

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.10.05 03:01:00 - [2]
 

It doesn't allow you to refuse more missions, I suppose what they meant was that having a high faction standing gives you access to more agents, in different corporations in that faction, so you can afford to turn down more missions, and move to a close by similar level agent from a diffent corp if you are given an unsatisfactory mission.

In addition to being able to anchor a POS in highsec (this is based on corp standings though, not your personal standings), you can also get faction ship BPCs when your standing reaches high levels.

(Amarr, Gallente, Caldari and Minmatar only)
8.6 (2x run BPC faction frigate)
9.2 (2x run BPC faction cruiser)
9.8 (2x run BPC faction battleship)


Oathi
Posted - 2010.10.05 03:02:00 - [3]
 

Declining a mission more than once every four hours causes a drop in faction standings but even with a high standing you generally won't want to let it drop at all.

Gavin DeVries
Posted - 2010.10.05 03:06:00 - [4]
 

Yes/No/Maybe. It depends upon circumstances. Let's use me as an example. I have an Amarr standing of 9.07 or something like that, after modification for Connections. Now, assume I'm missioning for the Theology Council over in Sasoutikh. I can decline missions as much as I like to, and no matter how low my Theology Council standing goes, I can still use that agent, as long as my faction standing is high enough. That particular agent, if I remember correctly, is L4 Q18. If that value is correct, as long as my standing with that agent, my standing with Theology Council, or my Amarr faction standing is at least 6.9 modified, I can continue to get missions from him.

Now, I don't decline that many missions, so I don't know exactly how much standing is lost with too many declines. Perhaps some of the others here can fill you in on those particulars.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.10.05 04:18:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 05/10/2010 04:25:04
Player corporation standings is a combined standing of the members Faction Standings which is used for anchoring a POS in Empire space.

Having a high Faction standing allows access to high level agents for all corporations in that Faction. Also allows travel into that Factions space as long as the Faction standing is above -5.00.

Having high corporation standing allows access to all agents in that corporation. No tax from refining with corporation standing above +6.00 and able to install jump clone with corporation standing above +8.00.

Having high standings with an agent allows access to that agent if Faction and Corporation standings are kept above -2.00.

This has more info.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standings_mechanics#Quick_Standings_Reference_Table

If you have high Faction standing with your first Faction and then do storyline missions for it's enemy, you'll lose standing with the first Faction but the Corporation and Agent standings will stay the same.

If you attack player members, stations or ships (Trade Convoys) belonging to the NPC Corporation, you'll lose Corporation standing but the Faction and Agent standings will stay the same.

If you decline more than one mission within 4 hours offered from the same Agent, you'll lose Corporation and Agent standing but the Faction standing will stay the same.

If you fail or quit a storyline mission, you'll lose Faction and Corporation standing but the regular Agent standings will stay the same. All storyline agents are considered level 1 quality 0 and can only be accessed after completing 16 missions for regular NPC Agents.

So with high Agent effective standing, you will still be able to get missions from the high level NPC Agents as long as the Faction and Corporation standing is above -2.00.

All Agents level 1 quality 0 and lower are available to everyone regardless of standings.

Cthulhu F'taghn
Sniggerdly
Posted - 2010.10.05 05:50:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: DeMichael Crimson

If you decline more than one mission within 4 hours offered from the same Agent, you'll lose Corporation and Agent standing but the Faction standing will stay the same.



This isn't true anymore but is why high faction standing was so good for a mission runner. Now you lose faction standing when declining so can't chain decline missions like you used to be able to.

Doragon Makina
Posted - 2010.10.05 10:34:00 - [7]
 

DeMichael Crimson, I have read your post about how to repair faction standings, and I have tested some parts of your plan.

Complete the career agent and newbie tasks does improved a tiny amount of my standings, but they are too slow. The quickest way to improve should be arcs or cosmos agents. If you have a T3 tengu try to finish 16 missions quickly and waiting for a storyline is not a bad idea. Even buy tags at market is a quick way.

But if you already have a bad even terrible standing, you have to begin with these L1 agents. But since you are not a newbie and with much SP it shouldn't be a tough time but boringugh

So the point is , never spoil your agents' standings, you can do nothing with a -2 standing agent even have a +10 fac standing.

I already have a 5.00 standing of Amarr and I just want it to improve quick. Arc missions are funny and interesting, I regret why I didn't complete them when I was a newbie Wink

Thanks for your post, its really helpful Cool

Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.10.05 10:49:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Chesty McJubblies on 05/10/2010 10:53:49
Edited by: Chesty McJubblies on 05/10/2010 10:50:14


nvm, just read the above

Doragon Makina
Posted - 2010.10.05 10:54:00 - [9]
 

I DO have heard some guy have a high fac standing refuse tons of offers but he still not losing his agent.
I will have to try when I got a 7 standing

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.10.05 10:55:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Suitonia

8.6 (2x run BPC faction frigate)



8.6 you say!? I'ma getting me some hookbills!

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.10.05 12:10:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Doragon Makina
DeMichael Crimson, I have read your post about how to repair faction standings, and I have tested some parts of your plan.

Complete the career agent and newbie tasks does improved a tiny amount of my standings, but they are too slow. The quickest way to improve should be arcs or cosmos agents. If you have a T3 tengu try to finish 16 missions quickly and waiting for a storyline is not a bad idea. Even buy tags at market is a quick way.

But if you already have a bad even terrible standing, you have to begin with these L1 agents. But since you are not a newbie and with much SP it shouldn't be a tough time but boringugh

So the point is , never spoil your agents' standings, you can do nothing with a -2 standing agent even have a +10 fac standing.

I already have a 5.00 standing of Amarr and I just want it to improve quick. Arc missions are funny and interesting, I regret why I didn't complete them when I was a newbie Wink

Thanks for your post, its really helpful Cool


Ahh, ok.
I just stated some facts and linked the evelopedia page about the standings.

I didn't mention or link the 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' but in it's defense, it is a complete list of all Event Agents that give Faction standing for each mission completed. Granted the Career Agent 10 part missions will take a little bit of time to complete. It's only a 'Plan' showing a path that players with very bad lop sided Faction standings can follow.

I still think that grinding 16 missions to gain 1 storyline mission for Faction standing increase will take longer than doing the Agent missions listed in the 'Plan'. Course that's just my opinion. Besides, every little bit helps. Those Tutorial and/or Career Agents just might be the ones needed to gain that last little bit of Faction standing to quickly get that Cosmos Faction Battle ship offer or to anchor a POS in Empire space.

Doragon Makina
Posted - 2010.10.05 12:58:00 - [12]
 

Yeah i mean... if you have a nice ship, with decent skills to fly it, L4 missions can provide you lots of LP and isk, just spent them on tags to improve your standing. After some calculation, 1.0 faction standing = about 40-50m isk. It not a bad idea maybe you can just earn these in 1 hr.

But my theory stands on not only positive but also a good standing. If you have a negative standing, you have to start like what you said.

Nikolai Kondratiev
Sphere Design Inc.
Posted - 2010.10.05 14:38:00 - [13]
 

You certainly don't want to decline anything when your standings are high, since it will take much longer to recover from the loss ugh

vekol
Posted - 2010.10.05 16:05:00 - [14]
 

omg stop posting this trash about standing loss. If you have higher faction standing than required to access the agent (I started at ~7,1 and my Agent was L4Q18) you can start declining the **** out of your agent without getting in trouble - well, at least I did and I'm currentyl at 9,33. Fallen from 9,36 in the last days because my storyline agent offered Materials for War Preparation far too often. Hey, don't forget about the Special Delivery from 2 jumps in Lowsec - guess how many Orcas I would have lost trying it...I want this damn Raven BPC!

Originally by: Doragon Makina
I DO have heard some guy have a high fac standing refuse tons of offers but he still not losing his agent.
I will have to try when I got a 7 standing


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