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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2010.10.05 11:18:00 - [31]
 

snipah.. and 9/10 from me, as you catched so many of them feeding it.. Shocked

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2010.10.05 11:19:00 - [32]
 

I'm not getting this thread...Neutral

ScouseTBE
Posted - 2010.10.05 11:53:00 - [33]
 

I think the best way to solve this problem it to take away the lets go ratting in the system to get your sec standing back up so you gank some one your sec standing stays low untill you run missions for the agents in that system that would stop alot of ships ganking for the fun of it.

Agerith
Posted - 2010.10.05 12:21:00 - [34]
 

sir skidmarks you sir are probally the biggest idiot to play this game if you think cccp would support that. so keep trolling and making stupid posts, you really are making your self look bad

Shepard Book
Posted - 2010.10.05 12:28:00 - [35]
 

Ther are many that support the removal of the free warning system and I am one of them. Local is a highseat for all carebears to sit in. Removing it would be a great step if ya want to bring back small gang warefare. Right now someone sees a fleet and wont engage till they have more. The scanner is in game for a reason.

Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
Posted - 2010.10.05 12:35:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Aessoroz on 05/10/2010 12:36:09
Originally by: Shepard Book
Ther are many that support the removal of the free warning system and I am one of them. Local is a highseat for all carebears to sit in. Removing it would be a great step if ya want to bring back small gang warefare. Right now someone sees a fleet and wont engage till they have more. The scanner is in game for a reason.


I can assure you that local is not a highest for carebears as we still have freaking mentally disabled who die in billion isk ships to 30 man gangs which roam through when they've had at least 10 minute notice from down the pipes.

Root'er
NeoCorteX Industry
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.10.05 12:36:00 - [37]
 

wanna no local? then there's 2497 systems waiting for u
if u rly wanna do it, u can catch most of the bears
HTFU dude

Doc Jancsi
Posted - 2010.10.05 12:46:00 - [38]
 

Quote:

Modern day oil tankers have multiple hulls so it would prob take billions of torpedoes to punch threw all those hulls and sink the ship.

Modern torpedoes do not "poke holes" they detonate beneath the target displacing the water beneath the keel the spine of the ship breaks like a bridge with too much weight in the middle of the span. Submarine launched Torpedos needed to sink supertanker: 2-3

On the subject of subject of submarines, During WW II allied submarines would carry between twenty and thirty "fish" for a three month patrol skippers would spend weeks staking out harbors and shipping lanes. They were often visible from the air or detected while on the surface. Many were depth charged and lost with all aboard killed. The united states lost 50 subs in WW II and the casualties suffered by the Germans were worse.

Covert ops and recon pilots are heirs to that tradition. Except while safe spotted you are completely undetectable, invulnerable and able to use active sensors freely without risk of counterdetection. Patience is the price you must pay for Stealth. Be grateful that CCP has not released depth charges or system wide decloaking pulses or some such concession to carebear whining.

This is NOT a new issue although the op's approach is a somewhat new tack. If ccp were going to fix this they would have done so long before you ever even heard of this game.

Muul Udonii
Minmatar
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.10.05 13:24:00 - [39]
 

Lol @ nobody seeing that the OP is taking the ****.

Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.10.05 13:25:00 - [40]
 

ibtl

fairimear
Gallente
The Sp00Ks
Posted - 2010.10.05 15:04:00 - [41]
 

For the simple people.
A week or so ago a fairly similare thread was posted but the title was instead aimed at complaining about cloaked ships sat in a mining or ratting system afk.
The thread presented no new whines or intresting ideas.
This thread is a counter to that thread basicaly saying that pve and miners just run for the nearest pos the second you try to actually raid their systems and as such the only way to effectively win is to sit cloaked untill they think your afk and then ninja wtfpwngank em. You see there are 2 major problems.
One cloaked ships and two local lets you know about normal raiders

Balsak
Minmatar
Friends of Bigfoot
Posted - 2010.10.05 15:10:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Tres Farmer
snipah.. and 9/10 from me, as you catched so many of them feeding it.. Shocked


Only a 9 ? I think the OP deserves at least a 9.1, ah hell I give him a 10 for making me do a double take and then laugh. Maybe I am being too generous though.

NewGit
Caldari
Posted - 2010.10.05 15:21:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Muul Udonii
Lol @ nobody seeing that the OP is taking the ****.

I saw that right off. It was so obvious I didn't bother commenting on it.

But hey, with all the people jumping on the "keep AFK cloaking/don't keep AFK Cloaking" and the "get rid of local/keep local" bandwagons, I haven't see any threads about lag in ages !

baltec1
Posted - 2010.10.05 15:22:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: fairimear
For the simple people.
A week or so ago a fairly similare thread was posted but the title was instead aimed at complaining about cloaked ships sat in a mining or ratting system afk.



Much fun was had.

Muul Udonii
Minmatar
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.10.05 15:39:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: NewGit
I haven't see any threads about lag in ages !


Must mean it's been fixed.Wink

Max Cetera
Capital Researchs Inc.
Posted - 2010.10.05 16:41:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Chony

Modern day oil tankers have multiple hulls so it would prob take billions of torpedoes to punch threw all those hulls and sink the ship.


wat ? oil tank haz billions of hulls ?

Nergart
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.10.05 16:52:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Nergart on 05/10/2010 16:54:10
this may sound crazy, but id say keep local chat so ppl can chat to each other, but not show who is in the system untill a message is posted.

logic being that if they do not put a post in local, no signal from their ship nothing showing they are there. when they do, a signal is sent and their presence is shown. possibly on a timer though so it expires or just so it clears when you leave the system.

ok im thinking of radio silence here but so what it applies.

and on the subject of oil tanker hulls, it only takes that last torp or 1 iceberg

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2010.10.05 17:02:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Max Cetera
Originally by: Chony

Modern day oil tankers have multiple hulls so it would prob take billions of torpedoes to punch threw all those hulls and sink the ship.


wat ? oil tank haz billions of hulls ?


1 torpedo

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DonHel
Gallente
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.10.05 17:12:00 - [49]
 

this is stupid.... whhaaaa theres a cloaky guy in my system, i cant mine... whhaaaa im in a cloaky and the miners wont let me kill them... wtf lol

DonHel
Gallente
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.10.05 17:17:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Max Cetera
Originally by: Chony

Modern day oil tankers have multiple hulls so it would prob take billions of torpedoes to punch threw all those hulls and sink the ship.


wat ? oil tank haz billions of hulls ?


1 torpedo

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thats not an oil tanker :p

KhaniKirai
Posted - 2010.10.05 21:32:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Shepard Book
Ther are many that support the removal of the free warning system and I am one of them. Local is a highseat for all carebears to sit in. Removing it would be a great step if ya want to bring back small gang warefare. Right now someone sees a fleet and wont engage till they have more. The scanner is in game for a reason.


Asking for removal of local system(which is not free, since you need people around in systems) is just pathetic.

The people asking for it, are just people, that want to lower their own risk, which is already very low.
Its being asked by people, that are too lazy to invest time and practice in pvp, that just want easy kills.
They are asking for this removal, so they can run away without any problem.

Sorry, but you people are just cowards :D
The people mining for example in 0.0 and low sec, have more guts then you.

Krispy Dingo
Minmatar
The Night Crew
Posted - 2010.10.05 22:41:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Agerith
sir skidmarks you sir are probally the biggest idiot to play this game if you think cccp would support that. so keep trolling and making stupid posts, you really are making your self look bad


In America, you can feed the trolls.
In Soviet Russia, no one gets fed!

Shepard Book
Posted - 2010.10.06 03:15:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: KhaniKirai
Originally by: Shepard Book
Ther are many that support the removal of the free warning system and I am one of them. Local is a highseat for all carebears to sit in. Removing it would be a great step if ya want to bring back small gang warefare. Right now someone sees a fleet and wont engage till they have more. The scanner is in game for a reason.


Asking for removal of local system(which is not free, since you need people around in systems) is just pathetic. It is a free warning that someone is in the system with you. You have a scanner for that.

The people asking for it, are just people, that want to lower their own risk, which is already very low.
Its being asked by people, that are too lazy to invest time and practice in pvp, that just want easy kills.
They are asking for this removal, so they can run away without any problem.

You want to talk risk vs reward? Take local out and everyone is on the same playing field. A free warning a hostile comes in system is why all the people warp out and either dock or cloak... BTW the macros use this as much as anyone which should tell you something. Let them learn to get friends to cover them and share the profits maybe? What a noble concept and one that builds unity.

Sorry, but you people are just cowards :D
The people mining for example in 0.0 and low sec, have more guts then you.


Yeah cuz rocks shoot back...

Tifforsia
Posted - 2010.10.06 05:08:00 - [54]
 

Op, why are asain people picking black characters? You have better options. I have a sneaking supicion it has something to do with mr you know who downstairs.

Skid Skahular
Posted - 2010.10.06 07:35:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Tifforsia
Op, why are asain people picking black characters? You have better options. I have a sneaking supicion it has something to do with mr you know who downstairs.


We'll have to wait until Summer of 2011 for that to be a factor.

Also, don't think I don't know your trying to get my thread locked with your racial comments. Shame on you! Just stick to talking about the size of Torpedos and how wonderful it would be if CCP removed Local Chat.

Skid Skahular
Posted - 2010.10.06 22:50:00 - [56]
 

The other thread just got bumped, so time to get the discussion going again here.

People saying to Pirate or roam in small gangs/solo with Local Chat are down right retaarded! PvP profits are slim as it is... splitting them with a blob in some stupid gate camp results in a loss since that's a lot mouths to feed. Who in their right mind would take the option? Especially considering that the the miner, ratter, plex runner would never come out of their POS or station with you around so any chance of PvP is out the window?

End this broken game mechanic that lets people play only when they'll win and is in effect, an "I Win" Button.

Midori Amiiko
Gallente
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.10.06 23:11:00 - [57]
 

Talk to Karn. He got kills a-plenty in "old" Providence.

I kick it in W-space. No local. Yet I still am able to escape most unfavorable encounters by a judicious use of D-Scan. This is the big difference between 0.0 and W-space. In 0.0 you keep an eye on local. In W-space you keep an eye on yer D-Scans.

It seems you want access to ****World, where all the carebears stumble around with their skirts around their ankles and shirts pulled over their heads. Unfortunately, ****World (aka rookie systems) are heavily populated by Concord.


KhaniKirai
Posted - 2010.10.06 23:35:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Shepard Book
Originally by: KhaniKirai
Originally by: Shepard Book
Ther are many that support the removal of the free warning system and I am one of them. Local is a highseat for all carebears to sit in. Removing it would be a great step if ya want to bring back small gang warefare. Right now someone sees a fleet and wont engage till they have more. The scanner is in game for a reason.


Asking for removal of local system(which is not free, since you need people around in systems) is just pathetic. It is a free warning that someone is in the system with you. You have a scanner for that.

The people asking for it, are just people, that want to lower their own risk, which is already very low.
Its being asked by people, that are too lazy to invest time and practice in pvp, that just want easy kills.
They are asking for this removal, so they can run away without any problem.

You want to talk risk vs reward? Take local out and everyone is on the same playing field. A free warning a hostile comes in system is why all the people warp out and either dock or cloak... BTW the macros use this as much as anyone which should tell you something. Let them learn to get friends to cover them and share the profits maybe? What a noble concept and one that builds unity.

Sorry, but you people are just cowards :D
The people mining for example in 0.0 and low sec, have more guts then you.


Yeah cuz rocks shoot back...


LOL yeah like miners can shoot back :D

If you ask for things, make sure you first do soome thinking about it, instead of not following your own logic :D
So why do u want this win button and have zero risk, with no local in normal space, you can escape any second and nobody will be able to chase you anymore.
Are you such a chicken? Such a coward? Begging for a massive: I win AND I can escape button?

Alyth
Gallente
Posted - 2010.10.07 01:15:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: KhaniKirai


LOL yeah like miners can shoot back :D

If you ask for things, make sure you first do soome thinking about it, instead of not following your own logic :D
So why do u want this win button and have zero risk, with no local in normal space, you can escape any second and nobody will be able to chase you anymore.
Are you such a chicken? Such a coward? Begging for a massive: I win AND I can escape button?



If they had brains they'd have someone to shoot back for them. Anyways, you are aware that your "I can run away button" applies to both parties right?

As it stands local is an overpowered intel tool available to everyone whether they be PvPer or carebear. Removal or changes to local would affect PvPers just as much as it would affect bears on account of them needing to actually do some work (more) finding targets (as if they don't already what with needing to d-scan and then probe down the people fitted with the 'Local chat channel' tank that seems to come as standard these days). Bears could do with being exposed to the conecpt of 'just as much as it is your right to rat and mine peacefully, it's also my right to violence you without provocation or cause' a bit more often tbh. Maybe then there would be a lot less whine threads about mean 'griefers' and EvE being too harsh because they'd finally 'get' EvE.

Avithren
Posted - 2010.10.07 10:49:00 - [60]
 

So, like, I totally turned up at this sword fight, and whipped out my sword ready to fight, when all of a sudden, this other guy pulled a sword too! WTF? It was so unfair that we both had swords, so I cried some.


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