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Quiczk
Posted - 2010.09.30 10:17:00 - [1]
 

Hi all, please help with cnr fit for missions and casual wh. Got nearly 3b budget. Also want to buy proper implants set. Could you make good mix of modules and implants for this price? CNR price must be included in budget. Thanks all!

Dr Fighter
Posted - 2010.09.30 10:31:00 - [2]
 

buy the full crystal set, then any shield boosting setup you pick will be 50% more awsome and if you loose it somhow you dont loose your 50% more awsomeness too.

Quiczk
Posted - 2010.09.30 10:40:00 - [3]
 

Doctor, thank you. Could you tell me more about crystal set and price of full set? It boosts only shield? Thanks in advance. Q

Dr Fighter
Posted - 2010.09.30 10:44:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Quiczk
Doctor, thank you. Could you tell me more about crystal set and price of full set? It boosts only shield? Thanks in advance. Q


i dont know the full price, im sure its less than 3 bil tho, should have plenty left over to buy a 'cheap' X-l booster like the pith b-type.

The full crystal set uses slots 1-6 and requires cybernetics lvl 5 for the last implant, the total boost is 55% to any shield boosters boost amount.

The LG set will cost you significant less isk but only give around 35% more boost (cant remebr exactly).

Using good implants first is a smart way to make sure your investment is better protected, after all your cat could walk accross your keyboard and kill you while afk so even the best setups are prone to total loss through mistake.

pirate implants are not for 0.0 really as the changes you will loose your pod are so much higher, in empire its extremly rare and in low sec uncommon.

Quiczk
Posted - 2010.09.30 10:57:00 - [5]
 

So it will be better to split budget 50:50 implants vs ship. Thank you very much, gotta find out exact names of implants and whole ship fit.

Akisawa
Caldari
Path Of The Cursed
Posted - 2010.09.30 11:07:00 - [6]
 

the price is changing constantly, but consider it like this, in rough numbers
HG Crystals cost around 150-300 mil per 1-5 slot crystal + somewhat 800 mil for slot 6 finisher, so around 1.5-2 bil for the full set
You may also want the DPS implant, like 5% rate of missile fire at least

leaves you with around 1 bil to spend on ship + fits
CNR costs around 550 mil these days
in most priority, you probably would want Caldari Navy Launchers + ballistic systems (DPS is your game with CNR)
whatever you got left, spend on tanking/etc

the less ISK you spend on implants, the more ISK you will have left for fits
overall 3 bil should be enough to get you fine missioning start



Nina Treml
Posted - 2010.09.30 11:20:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Nina Treml on 30/09/2010 11:22:09
Implants are NOT a must, don't take everything people say like gold.

I used to use the CNR (sold it when i upgraded to a golem and never used the CNR again) and i used to do VERY well without shield implants (i have 2 launchers implants though).

I used my CNR with all of the following: med shield booster t2, large shield booster t2, named x-large shield booster and even a pithi b-type small shield booster, with other mods being all T2; all of them worked wonderfully and i can say you that most important of all is knowing the missions, rather then having a uber expensive setup, then fix for max damage, that is really the only thing needed, you don't need to overtank if you kill thing fast enough.

vekol
Posted - 2010.09.30 12:07:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: vekol on 30/09/2010 12:09:57
Usually a T2 fit CNR should perform great in L4 missions. Only things that will really boost something are faction BCS and dps,rof and sigradius implants. I ran a normal Raven, T2 fit, and had no problems in L4.

Quiczk
Posted - 2010.09.30 12:12:00 - [9]
 

all i want is speed up my money income from pve as much as possible. Planning my move from cnr to golem asap, but it will take like 2 months to skill up. Thanks

Nina Treml
Posted - 2010.09.30 12:49:00 - [10]
 

Then use missiles implants.

Cyrstal
Posted - 2010.09.30 13:39:00 - [11]
 

This is what I use.
7x Caldari Navy cruise missile launchers

1x Gist B-type X-large shield booster
3x Gist hardeners rat specific
1x Dread guristas shield boost amp
1x Cap recharger

2x True Sansha Power diagnostic system
3x Caldari Navy ballistic controls

rigs
3x CCC

This is cap stable so the tank will run permanently. The dps is more than enough for any lvl 4 mission but if you feel the need you can get implants later. Personally I think the implants would be overkill for lvl 4 missions, but that is more a personal choice than anything else.

Quiczk
Posted - 2010.09.30 14:07:00 - [12]
 

Cyrstal, thank you. Could you post price of this fit and dps,ehp ? Thanks!

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2010.09.30 14:07:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Quiczk
Hi all, please help with cnr fit for missions and casual wh. Got nearly 3b budget.


a) Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. If the 3 billion is all the isk you have, you might not want to spend it all on one ship.
b) No such thing as casual wh. Wormholes are 100% PvP areas. See previous item.


Quote:
Also want to buy proper implants set. Could you make good mix of modules and implants for this price? CNR price must be included in budget. Thanks all!



This is Liang's CNR fit, considered to be the "best" or standard CNR fit to run missions with:
[Raven Navy Issue, cruise]
Signal Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Garde II x3
Hobgoblin II x5



As for implants, if you're in a wormhole, be prepared to lose them if you get podded in PvP. So you might just want to get cheap implants (or use a jump clone with cheap or no implants.) The rate of fire rigs and cruise missile damage rigs are the two most useful to get. Crystal implants are not necessary.


Quantum Antomata
Gallente
Posted - 2010.09.30 14:13:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Quantum Antomata on 30/09/2010 14:15:21
[Raven Navy Issue, new]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Cap Recharger II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Setup should cost roughly 2-2.5bil. Cap stable (which is over rated tbh) In the long run, this is better than those fits with large or XL boosters because you can use rigor rigs which will increase your damage done to smaller targets thus increasing your kill speed thus increasing your isk/hour. However I would not take this into a WH unless you are 110% sure you have the WH locked down. And when you get into a Golem, you can swap the faction mods over and be ballin. (I have a Golem with those exact faction mods, believe me its sick)

VANIT VII
Posted - 2010.09.30 14:17:00 - [15]
 

pass

Cyrstal
Posted - 2010.09.30 14:26:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Quiczk
Cyrstal, thank you. Could you post price of this fit and dps,ehp ? Thanks!


Sorry I don't have figures for this setup and have never used eft, but if someone wants to post itVery Happy. Isk wise I guess it would be shy of 2 billion with some change.

btw I have never used it in a wh I put this together a couple of years back.

Quiczk
Posted - 2010.09.30 14:32:00 - [17]
 

ok, it will be mainly used for missions. Don't wanna lose it inside wh. Will consider all, checked liang fit - cap boosters? Explanation pls. Thanks

Dr Fighter
Posted - 2010.09.30 14:37:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Quiczk
cap boosters? Explanation pls.


cheap, very effective, one slot.

Zaldoza
Caldari
Posted - 2010.10.01 13:20:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Quiczk
ok, it will be mainly used for missions. Don't wanna lose it inside wh. Will consider all, checked liang fit - cap boosters? Explanation pls. Thanks


Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.10.01 15:08:00 - [20]
 

pithum a-types are suicide gank bait

this is my current CNR fit, I've been slowly acquiring faction bcus. cost, **** if I know, but its way less than 3bil.

carry an afterburner for the few missions that can use one (aka ones with long travel between gates) usually drop a hardener for it, and then use 2x invluns.

and if I could be arsed to do it I'd buy a t2 rigor, but meh.

as for implants, the two big ones are: 5% cruise damage, 5% rof, don't remember the names, or slots of the other ones at the moment.

I usually have wardens/curators instead of gardes in the drone bay.

lets see, (prices rounded up)
hull 600m
bcus 270m
booster 40m
t2 stuff, maybe another 50m

[Raven Navy Issue, bleh]
Ballistic Control System II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Signal Amplifier II

Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x5
Garde II x3


 

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