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Random Hellbitch
Posted - 2010.09.28 17:13:00 - [1]
 

Today I have Radeon 5850 Crossfire that came with the PC which was a PC offer we got through work. I've only ever used Nvidia cards in the past, but that wasn't an option with this offer.

Anyways, I've had soooo many problems in regards to ATI's Catalyst drivers, with every single driver update from 10.6 up to the laste 10.9 driver. Put simply, I'm fed up with CTD, black screen during gameplay, assorted gfx glitches and a plethora of work-arounds to get various games to work right (that is, without glitches). Performance-wise it's been OK, but the glitches are doing my head in.

So I'm going to go back to Nvidia cards. What I'm looking at is the GTX 480 SLI, but since I've been stuck with this ATI card for awhile now I'd like some feedback on the GTX card if anyone has those. Any driver issues with them? Performance good in different games? Not talking just EVE (which I love to run on max whenever possible), but also FPS games like Bad Company 2 or Medal of Honor (have the latest MoH on preorder).

Any pro/cons on the GTX 480 SLI would be appreciated, optionally any feedback on other Nvidia cards. And no, I don't care how good ATI may or may not be performance, noise, heat or power consumption wise compared to Nvidia. After having issues with nearly every game due to drivers I am not getting another ATI in my house, ever.

AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
Posted - 2010.09.28 17:17:00 - [2]
 

I found a review of a 480 here which looks as if it has overcome the two big problems of the 480 - heat and noise. Take a squiz.

AK

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2010.09.28 17:31:00 - [3]
 

yeah i have noticed i get a lot of random reboots on the only 2 pcs (i have 7) that have ati graphics cards.

my trusty old nvidia's pcs run 5 clients each and never have problems.

Random Hellbitch
Posted - 2010.09.28 17:41:00 - [4]
 

Nice, I liked the review.

I was looking at the EVGA GTX 480 (had good experience with EVGA from before). I see there are also ASUS and MSI delivering the GTX 480 (I'm in Europe btw, not sure if that matters). Is there a big difference between these (EVGA, ASUS, MSI) ? I only looked at the EVGA since that's what I had before and I'm sorta leaning on the "Don't change a winning team" thing.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.09.28 17:42:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Furb Killer on 28/09/2010 17:42:42
Quote:
GTX 480 SLI

I hope wherever you live personal nuclear power plants are legal, because you are going to need one...


..per GPU.


Serious that thing will use more power than an average aircraft carrier. Also something to take into account: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QkyfGJgcwQ

Random Hellbitch
Posted - 2010.09.28 18:18:00 - [6]
 

Thanks, but power isn't really an issue. Prices are fairly low for power in Norway anyways, and my computer/office room is on it's own circuit from the fusebox in the house too.

I'm just concerned wether or not it's a worthwhile card (considering it's not cheap) and even more important how stable/good are driver updates. Don't want another ATI driver nightmare going on when I swap the cards out. While power is cheap in Norway, electronics and such is quite expensive. A single GTX480 is going for about 4000 Norwegian Crowns, which amounts to roughly 680US$ (at current exchange rates). So yeah... Rolling Eyes

SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Aperture Science inc.
Posted - 2010.09.28 18:43:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: SFX Bladerunner on 28/09/2010 18:44:38
a nice set of 2 GTX 460 1GB in SLI will compete with a 5850 depending on which games you play (lots of variations swinging both ways sometimes).

From my understanding the 480 and 470 on the GF100 chip, while well-performing, totally suck when it comes to power consumption and heat generations. It seems these chips are raw brute beasts.

The 460 on the other hand is made on the (smaller) GF104 chip. While a bit behind its bigger brothers when brute power is concerned this is actually a good price/value card with good consumption and heat for its delivered performance.

The only reason you should buy a 480 over a/multiple 460's is if you REALLY REALLY need maximum top of the market extreme performance.. Just don't expect your energy consumption, heat production and lifetime to be anything of high-grade levels.

EDIT: forgot to mention the GTX 460 scales in SLI better than the 480 and 470Smile

Marko Riva
Posted - 2010.09.28 18:46:00 - [8]
 

I'm certainly no fan of ATI but if by black screens you mean those several second blackouts after which the screen returns back to normal and you get a "driver recovered" message, that is not ATI. Nvidia cards can get it as well (I have it with a GTX 295 and it's widespread problem amongst all cards when using vista or W7). There's not much you can do about it other than updating drivers and stuff but that never really helps, on the official forums they talk about hardware issues, but I've had it on different computers. The latest forceware drivers cut down the blackout to 2 seconds or so, making it "bearable" but it's no solution.

On the new cards, no personal experience but I wouldn't buy the most expensive one (says the guy with a GTX 295) simply because it'll be outpaced by next years cheapo card. Also remember that the 400 serious usesa huge amount of power and thus creates a ton of heat.

MooKids
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.09.28 19:52:00 - [9]
 

As someone mentioned, if you are looking at a 480, you might as well get two 460s and SLI them. Same price and it gets a LOT more performance.

460 SLI vs. single 480

Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
Posted - 2010.09.29 00:34:00 - [10]
 

Most likely not a graphics card or driver issue, but an issue with Windows 7 or another driver (chipset, etc); in-fact, I'm damn near sure the black screen issue was a problem with a Windows 7 update. I'd check for a mobo update or ring the manufacturer of your PC. My brother is currently running two 5850's in CF, and he has little to no issue with any game setting; but then again I make sure his PC is up-to-date whenever I pop round to see him (bios updates, drivers for chipset, audio, anything). Worst case scenario, do a clean driver install to see if the issue resolves itself.

I'd go through your system and make sure the rest of it is up-to-date before stating the cards are crap. The 5xxx series is critically acclaimed and hailed as the better card this GPU 'round'.

Random Hellbitch
Posted - 2010.09.29 09:34:00 - [11]
 

Thanks for the replies guys. First off I'm going to SLI the GTX 480's if I get them. I know new cards drop in price fast, but when I go ahead and get new cards I prefer getting something that will perform for awhile.

Also, we are three friends who all got the same PC offer through work, so we have identical PC's and hardware. Me and one friend upgraded to 10.9 Cata drivers and started having huge issues in Bad Company2. Our 3rd friend hasn't upgraded from his 10.8 yet and he has none of the issues that we do (though he has other issues in other games). So I don't really see how this is not an ATI driver issue? We all have same windows updates as well (we run Win7 64bit).

I'll mess around a bit and see if others have issues like this in Bad Company 2 without having the 10.9 or ATI cards.

Never had problems with Nvidia though. Sure, sometimes I log into a game and see glitches, but then I'd check for driver updates, get the latest driver, install, relog in and voila, glitches are fixed. With ATI it's upgrade driver, oops it broke the game, go back to old drivers from 5 months ago to make it work.... bleh.

How does the GTX 460 SLI compare to 480 SLI?

I have a pretty good ventilation in my chassis, with intake fan, exhaust fan and top fan as well as a top that can be opened like a damper to exhaust air out the top so I don't think the heat dumped in chassis will cause much of a problem.

Then again, the 5850's might not generate much heat either.

SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Aperture Science inc.
Posted - 2010.09.29 09:51:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Random Hell*****
Thanks for the replies guys. First off I'm going to SLI the GTX 480's if I get them. I know new cards drop in price fast, but when I go ahead and get new cards I prefer getting something that will perform for awhile.

Also, we are three friends who all got the same PC offer through work, so we have identical PC's and hardware. Me and one friend upgraded to 10.9 Cata drivers and started having huge issues in Bad Company2. Our 3rd friend hasn't upgraded from his 10.8 yet and he has none of the issues that we do (though he has other issues in other games). So I don't really see how this is not an ATI driver issue? We all have same windows updates as well (we run Win7 64bit).

I'll mess around a bit and see if others have issues like this in Bad Company 2 without having the 10.9 or ATI cards.

Never had problems with Nvidia though. Sure, sometimes I log into a game and see glitches, but then I'd check for driver updates, get the latest driver, install, relog in and voila, glitches are fixed. With ATI it's upgrade driver, oops it broke the game, go back to old drivers from 5 months ago to make it work.... bleh.

How does the GTX 460 SLI compare to 480 SLI?

I have a pretty good ventilation in my chassis, with intake fan, exhaust fan and top fan as well as a top that can be opened like a damper to exhaust air out the top so I don't think the heat dumped in chassis will cause much of a problem.

Then again, the 5850's might not generate much heat either.


With a set of GTX 460 in SLI you get better SLI scaling than with a set of 480 in SLI.
Ofcourse the 480 are more powerfull and thus will achieve better performance overall but the % increase in performance from single -> SLI is actually better with the 460.

Then again if you plan on going GTX 480 in SLI keep in mind 460 can only do dual-SLI as it is a mid-range card and Nvidia only wants tripple(/quad?) SLI to be utilized on their high-end cards.

This is so people don't go out and buy 3 GTX 460, put em in SLI and totally blow away any point of ever wanting to buy a 480 at allTwisted Evil.

Some sites are calling the 460 the best Nvidia card since the 8800, and I think they might be right.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2010.09.29 10:05:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Grimpak on 29/09/2010 10:11:50
Originally by: Random Hell*****
Today I have Radeon 5850 Crossfire that came with the PC which was a PC offer we got through work. I've only ever used Nvidia cards in the past, but that wasn't an option with this offer.

Anyways, I've had soooo many problems in regards to ATI's Catalyst drivers, with every single driver update from 10.6 up to the laste 10.9 driver. Put simply, I'm fed up with CTD, black screen during gameplay, assorted gfx glitches and a plethora of work-arounds to get various games to work right (that is, without glitches). Performance-wise it's been OK, but the glitches are doing my head in.

So I'm going to go back to Nvidia cards. What I'm looking at is the GTX 480 SLI, but since I've been stuck with this ATI card for awhile now I'd like some feedback on the GTX card if anyone has those. Any driver issues with them? Performance good in different games? Not talking just EVE (which I love to run on max whenever possible), but also FPS games like Bad Company 2 or Medal of Honor (have the latest MoH on preorder).

Any pro/cons on the GTX 480 SLI would be appreciated, optionally any feedback on other Nvidia cards. And no, I don't care how good ATI may or may not be performance, noise, heat or power consumption wise compared to Nvidia. After having issues with nearly every game due to drivers I am not getting another ATI in my house, ever.



just a smaaaal question. Do you have V-sync enabled? cuz that sounds like your card was overheating.
many (if not all) games have this habit of, when you have V-sync disabled, to pump out so many frames from the cards that they start to burn quite nicely.

oh and dual-card setups don't work with eve. And with many other games, as a matter of fact. real-world performance only goes up a bit. only good thing I can see SLI for is to offload the PhysX stuff to one of the cards, while the other only does graphics stuff.
if you can get dual-gpu cards however, that would be better.

oh and ATI driver problems are kinda weird tbh.
I myself had similar problems with BOTH brands. and I'm pretty sure that there are people that have switched from NV to ATI because of the very same problems you're having, xcept they were using an NV card instead ATI.

Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
Posted - 2010.09.29 10:37:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Grimpak
Edited by: Grimpak on 29/09/2010 10:11:50
Originally by: Random Hell*****
Today I have Radeon 5850 Crossfire that came with the PC which was a PC offer we got through work. I've only ever used Nvidia cards in the past, but that wasn't an option with this offer.

Anyways, I've had soooo many problems in regards to ATI's Catalyst drivers, with every single driver update from 10.6 up to the laste 10.9 driver. Put simply, I'm fed up with CTD, black screen during gameplay, assorted gfx glitches and a plethora of work-arounds to get various games to work right (that is, without glitches). Performance-wise it's been OK, but the glitches are doing my head in.

So I'm going to go back to Nvidia cards. What I'm looking at is the GTX 480 SLI, but since I've been stuck with this ATI card for awhile now I'd like some feedback on the GTX card if anyone has those. Any driver issues with them? Performance good in different games? Not talking just EVE (which I love to run on max whenever possible), but also FPS games like Bad Company 2 or Medal of Honor (have the latest MoH on preorder).

Any pro/cons on the GTX 480 SLI would be appreciated, optionally any feedback on other Nvidia cards. And no, I don't care how good ATI may or may not be performance, noise, heat or power consumption wise compared to Nvidia. After having issues with nearly every game due to drivers I am not getting another ATI in my house, ever.



just a smaaaal question. Do you have V-sync enabled? cuz that sounds like your card was overheating.
many (if not all) games have this habit of, when you have V-sync disabled, to pump out so many frames from the cards that they start to burn quite nicely.

oh and dual-card setups don't work with eve. And with many other games, as a matter of fact. real-world performance only goes up a bit. only good thing I can see SLI for is to offload the PhysX stuff to one of the cards, while the other only does graphics stuff.
if you can get dual-gpu cards however, that would be better.

oh and ATI driver problems are kinda weird tbh.
I myself had similar problems with BOTH brands. and I'm pretty sure that there are people that have switched from NV to ATI because of the very same problems you're having, xcept they were using an NV card instead ATI.


Agreed. Only scenario I can imagine where you'd want vsync disabled is if you card can't handle the game anyway.

I have vsync on all the time in EVE and use interval one; my cards fans never even come on. Everything on max, lod off etc.


Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
Posted - 2010.09.29 15:18:00 - [15]
 

It's virtually impossible to make the 5xxx series overheat. I would be impressed if you managed to get one to VPU reset or BSOD due to heat.

It might be the manufacturer of the cards, rather than an ATI issue. A lot of manufacturers tweak the components and layout of the PCB. I personally prefer Sapphire and XFX over any other manufacturer of ATI cards due to the quality of the components.

Again, brother runs two 5850's in CF, and he has no issues with the 10.9's. But then he has two 5850 Vapor-X's from Sapphire. The cards could have been damaged when the company who built the machine put them in too, as there's always that possibility. Personally, I'd ask the company for two replacement cards, as the 5850's run on-par or slightly better than the 460's in SLI.

Random Hellbitch
Posted - 2010.09.29 17:59:00 - [16]
 

It's not overheating. Why would it suddenly overheat for both me, and my friend (identical problem) after installing 10.9 when it hasn't earlier when we also played BC2 with older drivers?

Could be it's not a good manufacturer. To be honest, I'm not sure who is the manufacturer of the 5850's we have installed in these PC's. Didn't really look at it that specifically when we had the offer to get them through work. That could explain why both me and my friend who updated to 10.9 are getting the same problem though.

Overall though it's been different problems in different games with the different drivers. I have yet to have an ATI driver update that didn't break one or more games. Struggled with APB, Day of Defeat, Bad Company 2 just to mention a few. The ATI cards are getting torched, end of discussion and end of anything ATI for my part.

I'm just wondering which of the Nvidia cards would be decent, and wether there are any issues in regards to those. It's going to be dual cards in SLI at the very least. So far I'm seeing 460's are good, as well as the 480's if I want to spend the extra cash and can tolerate the heavy heat dump and power usage.

Anyone actually have the 460's or 480's and can give some feedback on how they run the games, and wether there has been any driver issues or other flaws with them ?


Kephael
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.29 18:02:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Kephael on 29/09/2010 18:14:07
Edited by: Kephael on 29/09/2010 18:06:36
Sounds like the PC has other issues. OEM trash tends to do that, the AMD 6000 series comes out next month so purchasing an Nvidia 400 series would be a bad move as they are a generation behind AMD. The 480 is a terrible value, a 5970 costs roughly the same and has significantly better performance. You'll be able to pick up the 5850 replacement in November for less than the price of a 480 today and get better performance for less.

Barts XT Pro (5770 replacement) is out in October, AMD/ATI has a press conference on the 12th and XT Pro will have performance greater than the 5850 but less than the 5870. (Comparable to Nvidia GTX 470 for ~200)

Elysarian
Minmatar
Elysarian Corp
Posted - 2010.09.29 18:24:00 - [18]
 

Just one small point here:

You're going from ATI to nVidia - you should make sure your motherboard actually supports SLI before you buy the cards really

You don't state what processor you're running on there or your motherboard make/model so I can't tell if you're AMD or Intel (generally you will find that AMD boards are ATI crossfire and Intel boards are set up for nVidia SLI though there are exceptions).

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2010.09.29 19:12:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Elysarian
Intel boards are set up for nVidia SLI though there are exceptions).



said exceptions are actually Intel chipset-based boards that can go both SLI or CFX.

Something Random
Gallente
The Barrow Boys
Posted - 2010.09.29 20:53:00 - [20]
 

Im always hearing about the ATI issues in there drivers, BUT know a hell of a lot of folk in IT who have never had a glitch with them.

One question - when your updating drivers do you remove the old ones totally first and reboot before installing the newer drivers ?

Im moving to ATI in my next system - got the girlfriends on order now, but my car and its necessities has backed me up on the savings a month or 2. New realms - AMD/ATI instead of my usual Intel/NVidia.

Im hoping i do not regret this.....

Embarassed

Random Hellbitch
Posted - 2010.09.29 21:18:00 - [21]
 

I think I need to make a few things clear.

The reason I'm moving away from ATI is because of the outright horrible issues with the driver updates causing crashes, glitches and more. I don't care if a card delivers 15% less performance if it doesn't screw the games over with the driver updates. I have never, in over a decade of using Nvidia, had problems with the drivers. This is my first ATI desktop, and it's been nothing but a nightmare. In order to make games run properly you need to downgrade the drivers. For Bad Company 2 the suggestions I'm getting is to downgrade from 10.9 to 10.5 drivers !?! So ATI had 10.6, 10.7, 10.8 and 10.9 and still problems in that game.

I'm simply fed up with it, hence why I want to go back to Nvidia cards which have, in my experience anyhow, always delivered both performance and driver wise.

And it's even worse when myself and two of my other friends who bought same PC's with the same ATI cards also have had the same problems with every driver update. So it's not just my PC, or a unique problem for me, but it's also two friends as well. That's not very positive for ATI from my perspective, hence I don't want anything to do with them anymore.

As for the processor, it's listed as,

CPU_Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
CPU_Manufacturer: GenuineIntel

As for updating and removing drivers, I did the following.

1) Uninstall CCC/ATI drivers
2) Reboot PC in SafeMode
3) Run Driversweeper from guru3d.com
4) Reboot PC
5) Install CCC/ATI driver
6) Reboot PC
7) Install CCC/ATI application profiles

Didn't help (as far as the 10.9 drivers go. Same issues persist). Option is, as mentioned, to downgrade to older drivers. That will remove the graphic glitches in Bad Company 2, but it will mean longer loading time between mapchanges, firing up game et.c. So it's about picking the lesser evil, rather than having something that actually works.

Not really decided yet, but I guess I'll be aiming for the 460 or 480. Will have to see how much they run for, pricewise. By the way, I see there is GTX 460 and GTS 460. Any major differences between those two ?


Kephael
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.09.29 21:35:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Random Hell*****
I think I need to make a few things clear.

The reason I'm moving away from ATI is because of the outright horrible issues with the driver updates causing crashes, glitches and more. I don't care if a card delivers 15% less performance if it doesn't screw the games over with the driver updates. I have never, in over a decade of using Nvidia, had problems with the drivers. This is my first ATI desktop, and it's been nothing but a nightmare. In order to make games run properly you need to downgrade the drivers. For Bad Company 2 the suggestions I'm getting is to downgrade from 10.9 to 10.5 drivers !?! So ATI had 10.6, 10.7, 10.8 and 10.9 and still problems in that game.

I'm simply fed up with it, hence why I want to go back to Nvidia cards which have, in my experience anyhow, always delivered both performance and driver wise.

And it's even worse when myself and two of my other friends who bought same PC's with the same ATI cards also have had the same problems with every driver update. So it's not just my PC, or a unique problem for me, but it's also two friends as well. That's not very positive for ATI from my perspective, hence I don't want anything to do with them anymore.

As for the processor, it's listed as,

CPU_Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
CPU_Manufacturer: GenuineIntel

As for updating and removing drivers, I did the following.

1) Uninstall CCC/ATI drivers
2) Reboot PC in SafeMode
3) Run Driversweeper from guru3d.com
4) Reboot PC
5) Install CCC/ATI driver
6) Reboot PC
7) Install CCC/ATI application profiles

Didn't help (as far as the 10.9 drivers go. Same issues persist). Option is, as mentioned, to downgrade to older drivers. That will remove the graphic glitches in Bad Company 2, but it will mean longer loading time between mapchanges, firing up game et.c. So it's about picking the lesser evil, rather than having something that actually works.

Not really decided yet, but I guess I'll be aiming for the 460 or 480. Will have to see how much they run for, pricewise. By the way, I see there is GTX 460 and GTS 460. Any major differences between those two ?



There is no such thing as a GTS 460, there is a GTS 450 which is rather terrible. There are two GTX 460s, one with 768mb of VRAM and a 192 bit bus and a better model with 1GB VRAM and a 256 bit bus. The 1GB model is far superior, however I have seen a GTX 465 on sale for $149 after mail in rebate. You could get two of them for $300.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500163

Something Random
Gallente
The Barrow Boys
Posted - 2010.09.29 21:44:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Random Hell*****

As for updating and removing drivers, I did the following.

1) Uninstall CCC/ATI drivers
2) Reboot PC in SafeMode
3) Run Driversweeper from guru3d.com
4) Reboot PC
5) Install CCC/ATI driver
6) Reboot PC
7) Install CCC/ATI application profiles




Dont see any problem with that regime, you even go the extra step with the guru3d util - damn, its looking like im heading into driver hell death...... maybe.

Good luck moving into your NVidia (again) cards, have to say ive never had issues either with NVidia - except they can go satisfyingly *BOOM* when they let go. As an aside, i would avoid ASUS video cards - there RMA is just non existant in the UK and i presume Europe (as they told me they didnt have a repair centre in europe for GFX) and if you get an experience like me you'll end up with a chinese lady called Sally who seems to only be able to say 'Hi i am here to solving your problem, please be happy and we will get better' but never actually does anything. ASUS failed to even honour the 3 year warranty... when i found out what it took to actually chase that i just took it as lesson learned.

Wheretoboss
Posted - 2010.09.30 02:06:00 - [24]
 

I've been using two Asus 480s in SLI for about two weeks now. No driver issues (release drivers, the beta ones still have quirks such as framerate drops in newer games). No heat issues (there's a slot in between mine, and they're in a well cooled case). For performance you can check some reviews. BFBC2 doesn't even strain it, Crysis didn't stutter once on an entire playthrough on 1920x1080 with everything set to HOLY CRAP.

Just make sure your Memory and Processor can pull their weight. If you're rolling with anything less than a high-end i7 it's a waste of money.

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Posted - 2010.09.30 12:46:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Random Hell*****
Anyways, I've had soooo many problems in regards to ATI's Catalyst drivers, with every single driver update from 10.6 up to the laste 10.9 driver.


I own one of these cards. I've been quite paranoid about issues with those driver versions, so I haven't updated from catalyst 10.3 yet.

dr doooo
Posted - 2010.09.30 14:17:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: dr doooo on 30/09/2010 14:23:29

FWIW, I haven't had a single problem with my single 5770 in the month or 2 I've had it, although I guess that isn't really relevant.

Just a thought, but are you going to need to get a new motherboard when you switch to Nvidia? If so, you could get one that's both crossfire and SLI compatible, and just try the new motherboard first with the ATI GPU's. You never know, that may fix your problem.

And another thought (wow, 2 in one day), are you sure it's not a compatibility problem with the memory. Some memory isn't very stable with ATI GPU's and chipsets. That would obviously be a much cheaper fix than 2 new high end GPU's if it is the case.

Edit: On second thoughts, I'm not sure, but I may be talking bollox here with the second point. Am I thinking of intel V AMD CPU's, rather than Nvidia V ATI GPU's?


Random Hellbitch
Posted - 2010.09.30 18:03:00 - [27]
 

If it was a compatibility issue, why wouldn't it have kicked in before updating to 10.9?

The previous drivers had issues in other games, 10.8 being murder for APB. Then 10.9 torpedoed Bad Company 2 instead. And anyways, APB got shut down so no idea how 10.9 would have affected that game.

Kephael
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.10.02 16:43:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Kephael on 02/10/2010 16:43:43
Too bad you didn't wait. I just picked up this, http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2271569


 

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