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Rickhart
Gallente
Posted - 2010.10.26 17:54:00 - [1051]
 

you are absolutely right i'ma change my vote down these ******s are acting like it's some sort of sp remap

Alvar Kesh
Gallente
Ealurian Shipyards

Posted - 2010.10.27 09:13:00 - [1052]
 

WTF CCP Confused

Percivs
Sebiestor Tribe

Posted - 2010.10.28 06:17:00 - [1053]
 

Originally by: Alvar Kesh
WTF CCP Confused

Rouksobada Micyba
Posted - 2010.10.28 06:17:00 - [1054]
 

Originally by: Alvar Kesh
WTF CCP Confused

ZealotForHire
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.10.28 06:18:00 - [1055]
 

Originally by: Alvar Kesh
WTF CCP Confused

Zergling Omega
Posted - 2010.10.28 06:19:00 - [1056]
 

Originally by: Alvar Kesh
WTF CCP Confused

Unremarkable Patience
Posted - 2010.10.28 06:21:00 - [1057]
 

-1 more paying account
No, you cannot have my stuff.

Dovan Atar
Posted - 2010.10.28 18:47:00 - [1058]
 

No to remap for PLEX!

Raptine Anders
Posted - 2010.10.28 19:11:00 - [1059]
 

Supported

Egilmonsc
Minmatar
Massively Mob

Posted - 2010.10.29 12:42:00 - [1060]
 

Supported~

Sebea
Sniggerdly
Posted - 2010.10.29 18:25:00 - [1061]
 

IDGI what are people angry about, every other modern game out does micro transactions, why should we handicap the company that we pay while the competition all get rich over it?

Plus im pretty stoked about being able to remap whenever i want, i mean really, have you people even looked at the useless reqs on leadership skills? Do i REALLY want a high charisma for a frickin YEAR.

No, no i don't.

Don't listen to the gays CCP, I and many others will spend a great deal of money remapping through plex, and damn the ninny's along the way.

Zoloft Rx
Posted - 2010.10.29 19:23:00 - [1062]
 

NO PLEX FOR REMAPS! Mad

No PLEX for ANYTHING except the 30 days of game time it represents.

Rickhart
Gallente
Posted - 2010.10.29 19:34:00 - [1063]
 

Originally by: Zoloft Rx
NO PLEX FOR REMAPS! Mad

No PLEX for ANYTHING except the 30 days of game time it represents.
and isk omgShocked

Zoloft Rx
Posted - 2010.10.29 19:45:00 - [1064]
 

Originally by: Rickhart
Originally by: Zoloft Rx
NO PLEX FOR REMAPS! Mad

No PLEX for ANYTHING except the 30 days of game time it represents.
and isk omgShocked


I'm referring to the destruction of the PLEX. When CCP removes it from the game, someone should only get 30 days of game time.

Codey28
Posted - 2010.10.29 22:32:00 - [1065]
 

Originally by: Percivs
Originally by: Alvar Kesh
WTF CCP Confused


Sujanra Acoma
Minmatar
Shadow Kitty Legion
Rura-Penthe
Posted - 2010.10.30 06:07:00 - [1066]
 

Edited by: Sujanra Acoma on 30/10/2010 06:11:37
Microtransactions may lead to increased revenue, but not to a better game.

I played LOTRO for a couple days, and nothing was more jarring than "YOU MUST PAY 250 TURBINE POINTS TO DO THIS DUNGEON" or whatever. Totally breaks immersion and ruins the fun of the game.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops

Posted - 2010.10.30 10:45:00 - [1067]
 

Mechanics should apply equally to everyone.

ceaon
Posted - 2010.10.30 11:26:00 - [1068]
 

CCP do what ever you want many ppl will be ****ed and perpetuum go live in few weeks up to you

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2010.10.30 11:42:00 - [1069]
 

meh

Krystyn
Caldari
Serenity Rising LLC
Slammer's Republic
Posted - 2010.10.31 01:13:00 - [1070]
 

The road to hell is paved with micro transactions.

I'll just have to dust off my consoles if eve goes that way.
That is just not the game I want to play.

Macro miners are already a pain in the ass why is CCP trying to roll out things that are unbalancing and silly instead of fixing the stuff that needs work now. Like Lag and macrominers and illegal RMT stuff.

I can't believe that CCP can't immediately spot 23/7 macro miners just by simple parsing of playtime logs.

If CCP needs a few more bucks to keep the game going right just up the subscription a bit. I'd would happily pay an extra few bucks to keep things going the right direction instead of having rich people buy their way to the top moreso than they already can

Velan Wolf
Gallente
Posted - 2010.10.31 07:49:00 - [1071]
 

Agreed, this is a step in the wrong direction.

Supported

Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe

Posted - 2010.10.31 23:04:00 - [1072]
 

bump for justice, and for support -

the cons list is also important to look at CCP. . .

Arec Bardwin
Posted - 2010.10.31 23:56:00 - [1073]
 


Akima Jarka
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.11.06 22:43:00 - [1074]
 

/signed

soldaat 3
Gallente
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.11.06 23:24:00 - [1075]
 

NOoooo CCP dont do this!
really verry bad idea.

Xyzibyte
Posted - 2010.11.06 23:58:00 - [1076]
 

i also say no to microtransactions ... not even neural remap!

John Alper
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.11.07 02:51:00 - [1077]
 

I don't like the idea of plex for remaps.

Ancyker
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.11.07 09:42:00 - [1078]
 

I will not buy PLEX (with ISK or with $) to obtain remaps, however, I am not against other people doing it.

I am impartial. This change does not effect me and it seems it doesn't really effect anyone. Most of the people downing it seem to think it will just be the start of something bigger. If it stops here, I don't care if it's added.

As much as I'd personally love the idea of me being able to buy SP for $, it's no fun if everyone else can, so I do have to down vote that. lol.

PS. To everyone that's all "MICRO TRANSACTIONS ARE THE DEVIL!!11 EBIL I SAY, EBIL!!!!1111" I have 2 things to say:
1- $17.50 (it's not $15, why does everyone keep saying that? It's $35/2 = $17.50) is hardly a MICRO transaction.
2- CCP is obviously aware that they will have to add them eventually to compete with other MMOs.

Now, poor CCP is like, well if we can't add that #%^@#^ what do we add then?!?! I came up with the following:
1- Skins for ships! I'd buy those. I'd pay maybe $1/skin ($2/skin if it was themed in a way that was licensed from someone else, see example below) as long as there was enough that it'd be somewhat unique. If there was only 2 choices/ship, I would not pay; if there was 10+ I would. (I would absolutely NOT pay if the skin was lost with the ship destruction even if it was 10 cents per skin)
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8770/kestrelhk.jpgPlease visit your user settings to enable images.
YOU KNOW YOU WANT ONE! ADMIT IT!
2- $5 extra / month to train an additional character on the same account. So I could train 2 characters instead of just 1.
3- I would also pay for non-melted snowballs. $1 for 1,000 kthx.

Machete Visor
Posted - 2010.11.07 17:54:00 - [1079]
 

We already have microtransactions.

Pay $35 for 2 plex, sell plex, buy nifty battleship.

So I think you guys should be more precise in your protest.

I hear two things(my interpretation), which are the following:

1) High SP characters should remain unique. In other words, you shouldn't be able to buy SP, or train SP faster (remaps) by using ISK or $$. This preserves the uniqueness of high SP characters and makes them more rare. I agree w/ this.

2) Plex should be the sole link between $$ and ISK, and the price should remain high. No one wants "You must pay $1 to fight in system XUY-023" or "To buy that skillbook, you need $2." By keeping plex relatively expensive, it prevents this type of thinking (even though economically it is still part of the game). That helps roleplaying. Also decreases the hassle factor.

FWIW - SP are currently purchaseable via the character bazaar. So it is inaccurate to say "No $$ for SP." The supply of characters, however, is very constrained, and the transfer fee sets a floor on the types of characters that are tradeable.

If the transfer fee is removed, we could very easily see a character bazaar filled with all types of characters trained in just 1 skill... in that way you could buy skills. But as is - at $20 or 725M ISK - it is too expensive to have trade such characters. That menas it is only practical to buy characters are the upper levels of the game or with significant $$ investment (2B ISK = $35 x 3 = $105)

I think the discussion would be much better with more succint points.

1) Keep SP purchasing rare.
2) Maintain the $$ to ISK exchange rate at $35 minimum (regardless of ISK value).

Amarantha Morgana
Posted - 2010.11.09 08:54:00 - [1080]
 

supported, please no microtransactions.


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