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Elizabeth Q
Posted - 2010.09.25 16:20:00 - [721]
 

Edited by: Elizabeth Q on 25/09/2010 16:22:48
No to remap for plex instantly!
But support remap for free by every six months!!!

Buxter
Posted - 2010.09.25 20:32:00 - [722]
 

RMT

Morar Santee
Posted - 2010.09.25 21:08:00 - [723]
 

Originally by: Boltorano
CCP is starting to slide down the slippery slope with this potential move.



I'd have to agree there, unfortunately. It's definitely a move in the wrong direction in an attempt to create more revenue from the game.

Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2010.09.25 23:40:00 - [724]
 

Originally by: Inggroth
Edited by: Inggroth on 21/09/2010 18:16:34
WTF CCP?

The cool thing about PLEX being an ingame item was - you could ONLY turn it in for 30days gametime.

Thats why the majority of players didnt have a problem with the hypothetical scenario of some rich noob purchasing a ton of PLEX and getting shinies/veteran chars etc. Because he would pay for gametime of others (who would use the PLEX to extend their subscription).

Thats why PLEX was a brilliant idea as a measure to stomp RMT, while not going cash-shop.

Now you're about to change that and be no better than some f2p/cash-shop/pay2win grinder.




Exactly.

Before this change: Player buys PLEX from CCP, player trades PLEX for isk to buy shinies / character / whatever. Ultimately, someone uses the PLEX for gametime. End result: CCP has to offer 1 month of game time, no matter who gets the PLEX in the end.

After this change: Player buys PLEX from CCP, uses it for a remap. End result: CCP does not have to offer 1 month of game time. Economy now has an endless PLEX sink. Broken economy.

WTF CCP?

ZXXCsunset
Posted - 2010.09.26 00:54:00 - [725]
 

Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on
lolEvil or Very Mad

Ametos
Posted - 2010.09.26 03:24:00 - [726]
 

Epic Fail CCP!


jwingenderowns
Posted - 2010.09.26 03:42:00 - [727]
 

I really hope this doesn't make it to TQ. Supported.


Khan Amaran
Posted - 2010.09.26 04:02:00 - [728]
 

/signed

Clausius Weger
Posted - 2010.09.26 04:03:00 - [729]
 

/signed

Andan Kumi
Posted - 2010.09.26 04:06:00 - [730]
 

/signed !!!

Irae Ragwan
Posted - 2010.09.26 04:08:00 - [731]
 

Originally by: T'Amber



Proposal
:
  • Don't allow the trading of Plex's for extra Neural Remaps


Pros:
  • There won't be a new CCP mechanic that allows some players to benefit more ingame than others



Like t2 BPOs, the fact most of us have many alts, and the general reality of a static buildup of skillpoints over time? That argument is not being backed up by logic. Players with money have benefits over others already if they want it. This is nothing new.

Originally by: T'Amber

Cons:
  • Real Money Trading happens regardless
  • People with more money can buy and sell plex ingame and get an advantage already
  • CCP has more plex to sell
  • People can buy characters with isk
  • This feature could possibly help fixing skill messups and lazyness




You listed enough reasons right there, but if you need more just visit highsec some time and check out the baddies farming up PLEX money with L4s. They're the poor tools buying PLEX so your anom farmers can play for free. So please, cry more about the advantages that these players are going to get by PLEXing an extra remap now and then. If you eventually pass out from dehydration, you might come to your bloody senses and realise this is the most childish and stupid thig the CSM has bothered to (not?)support.

TLDR: Business as usual, htfu, and get off your high horse. Just because it makes you cry to think PLEX might get more expensive for your 12 accounts doesn't mean this is a terrible and ilconcieved idea.

Templar Dane
Amarr
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2010.09.26 04:40:00 - [732]
 

Originally by: Irae Ragwan
Originally by: T'Amber



Proposal
:
  • Don't allow the trading of Plex's for extra Neural Remaps


Pros:
  • There won't be a new CCP mechanic that allows some players to benefit more ingame than others



Like t2 BPOs, the fact most of us have many alts, and the general reality of a static buildup of skillpoints over time? That argument is not being backed up by logic. Players with money have benefits over others already if they want it. This is nothing new.

Originally by: T'Amber

Cons:
  • Real Money Trading happens regardless
  • People with more money can buy and sell plex ingame and get an advantage already
  • CCP has more plex to sell
  • People can buy characters with isk
  • This feature could possibly help fixing skill messups and lazyness




You listed enough reasons right there, but if you need more just visit highsec some time and check out the baddies farming up PLEX money with L4s. They're the poor tools buying PLEX so your anom farmers can play for free. So please, cry more about the advantages that these players are going to get by PLEXing an extra remap now and then. If you eventually pass out from dehydration, you might come to your bloody senses and realise this is the most childish and stupid thig the CSM has bothered to (not?)support.

TLDR: Business as usual, htfu, and get off your high horse. Just because it makes you cry to think PLEX might get more expensive for your 12 accounts doesn't mean this is a terrible and ilconcieved idea.


This.

Notorious viper
Posted - 2010.09.26 05:01:00 - [733]
 

Edited by: Notorious viper on 26/09/2010 05:03:03
use plex in this way is not a good idea

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2010.09.26 05:50:00 - [734]
 

not supported.

I enjoy the idea of being able to remap again by spending 300-400m on a plex and going "yay fixed that ******ed int/mem thing" and not being stuck for a goddamn year.

Sylvaner Trojan
Posted - 2010.09.26 07:31:00 - [735]
 

WTF CCP?

olzi
Caldari
NPC Corporation
Paisti Syndicate
Posted - 2010.09.26 08:08:00 - [736]
 

Buying improvements to your character with money.. no thanks.

miss elena
Minmatar
Thunder Mercenary Army
Posted - 2010.09.26 08:40:00 - [737]
 

DO NOT WANT

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2010.09.26 08:58:00 - [738]
 

I don't mind it.

It is interesting to see that only OLD players whine about that.

Looks like they are fighting tooth and nail to not give newcommers any advantage.

Especially since this "advantage" is really nonsense. Just set up a long enough skillplan.


So, no, I don't support this at all!

Dasola
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.09.26 09:31:00 - [739]
 

Just so you people in CCP know what you loose if you go ahead with this bull****.


I have 7 accounts, all payed with cold hard cash. Do this plex change and im cancelling 6 of them. and that 7´th can run highlevel missions to buy plex with isk so you will not get money from that either.

Thats 7*15€ = 105€/month you loose right there. Reason i poay cold hard cash is im too lazy to learn how really generate massive amounts of isk in this game.

Athena Reliasus
PWNED Factor
Posted - 2010.09.26 09:40:00 - [740]
 

Edited by: Athena Reliasus on 26/09/2010 10:39:14
CCP fanboy posting to say this is a baaaaad idea

T'Amber
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.09.26 09:42:00 - [741]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie
I don't mind it.

It is interesting to see that only OLD players whine about that.

Looks like they are fighting tooth and nail to not give newcommers any advantage.

Especially since this "advantage" is really nonsense. Just set up a long enough skillplan.

So, no, I don't support this at all!


While I'm not sure if this is true and I'd like to see your source of this information, (I've not gone through the ages of every character that have posted) this would be interesting and also something to take into consideration.

Although I don't agree that there is no advantage to be gained from this feature, it has in some of these posts been stretched way out of proportion to what advantage it would actually give.

-T'amber




starfire angel
Posted - 2010.09.26 10:09:00 - [742]
 

WTF CCP?!?!?Question

Laxyr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.09.26 10:45:00 - [743]
 

"Oh no, not again..."

vekol
Posted - 2010.09.26 12:02:00 - [744]
 

Originally by: T'Amber

Although I don't agree that there is no advantage to be gained from this feature, it has in some of these posts been stretched way out of proportion to what advantage it would actually give.



So no advantage from free remaps means it's ok to sell them for PLEX. Next time they will introduce a way to buy sp for PLEX/isk - the interface is already implemented (remember the last expansion and the free sp?). It always starts with small things.

Xlose
Posted - 2010.09.26 12:30:00 - [745]
 

/signed

Aineko Stryer
Minmatar
Aineko Accelerando Labs
Posted - 2010.09.26 15:53:00 - [746]
 

more remps - okay

more stuff to buy with RL money - not okay

Nova Lin
Posted - 2010.09.26 16:03:00 - [747]
 


Irae Ragwan
Posted - 2010.09.26 16:38:00 - [748]
 

Edited by: Irae Ragwan on 26/09/2010 18:12:29
Originally by: T'Amber
Originally by: Gnulpie
I don't mind it.

It is interesting to see that only OLD players whine about that.

Looks like they are fighting tooth and nail to not give newcommers any advantage.

Especially since this "advantage" is really nonsense. Just set up a long enough skillplan.

So, no, I don't support this at all!


While I'm not sure if this is true and I'd like to see your source of this information, (I've not gone through the ages of every character that have posted) this would be interesting and also something to take into consideration.

Although I don't agree that there is no advantage to be gained from this feature, it has in some of these posts been stretched way out of proportion to what advantage it would actually give.

-T'amber



You don't actually know how marginal of an advantage it will be (and it's avalible to anyone, obviously)... and yet you decided to make this thread?

So, I take it you're aware this thread continues to loose merit as we go?

I'm extremely dubious as to what the motivators are behind the various CSM fat-cats being hot and bothered over this issue, but I do hope someone can come up with a more coherent and logical explanation soon that isn't related to the tired "s'not fair, money advantage," stuff that obviously does not make a shred of sense.

el Sabor
Posted - 2010.09.26 17:31:00 - [749]
 

Doesn't bother me since I get the same advantage by planning my training long term.

However where it may lead in the future does bother me.

Ephari
Gallente
Posted - 2010.09.26 20:54:00 - [750]
 

Plain and simple..
No

that is one step in the wrong direction


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