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InsertFunnyNameHere
Posted - 2010.09.02 17:18:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 09:53:53
This thread is about Amarr fittings to gank missionrunners.

amarr ships only
lasers available
heavy assault missiles available
t3 cruiser available


Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.09.02 17:32:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 03/09/2010 13:11:49
Armegddon is Popular

Highs
7 Duel Pulse Lasers(Meta 4 or Tech 2)
1 Large Nuet

Mids
Heavy Cap Boost
Warp Disrupter 2
100mn Afterburner

Lows
3 1600mm Plates
1 EANM 2
1 DCU 2
3 Heat Sink 2

Drones
5 Heavies

You will Probably want to go to Caldari Space, There Ships are Sheild Tanked. Besides that the Nuet should shut down any mission tank.

Edit: Fixed

Dusica
Amarr
Posted - 2010.09.02 17:48:00 - [3]
 

armagedon is ok but both apoc and abadon are better , if you have m isk to invest go for navy apoc
mega pulses

Henri Rearden
Gallente
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2010.09.02 18:35:00 - [4]
 

I think you might get more responses if you state what you want in an actual language rather than gibberish. Are you asking for a ship which is gank-heavy for use in missions in Amarr space, or are you asking for a ship with which to gank those running missions in Amarr space? If the former, the Abbadon is typically the T1 gank missioner if fit with tachs and a cap booster. If the latter, I would not suggest using lasers against pve ships tanked against lasers. You're better off with an Em/Therm tank and Exp/Kin gank, as you might find in an armor-tanked minmatar ship.

Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
Posted - 2010.09.02 21:41:00 - [5]
 

Stanard apoc fit packs full gank already

8X MP II MF/scorch

AB / CR II
CR II
TC II (optimal)

3X HS II
1 X LAR II
3 X hard

2 X Aux nano I, 1 X CCC I

5 med, 5 light

Navy apoc same but with 4th HS / TE / hard. Faction to taste. Other fits will give more paper-DPS but this can apply it out to 80-90Km and doesnt have the abbaddon's cap issues.

700-850 DPS MF 25Km
600ish DPS scorch 80Km

Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
Posted - 2010.09.02 21:53:00 - [6]
 

I if you're stuck with Amarr ships and insistant on staying in Amarr, why not try something like the Autocannon Veng or HAM Sacri?

At least then you get to choose your damage type.

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.09.03 02:27:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 03/09/2010 02:30:04
Originally by: Telvani
Stanard apoc fit packs full gank already

8X MP II MF/scorch

AB / CR II
CR II
TC II (optimal)

3X HS II
1 X LAR II
3 X hard

2 X Aux nano I, 1 X CCC I

5 med, 5 light

Navy apoc same but with 4th HS / TE / hard. Faction to taste. Other fits will give more paper-DPS but this can apply it out to 80-90Km and doesnt have the abbaddon's cap issues.

700-850 DPS MF 25Km
600ish DPS scorch 80Km

Awsome I love ganking mission runners without a point.

Almost as much as I enjoy reading the OP!

Unless your talking about ganking as in firepower to complete Missions, then call it by it's proper name Carebear Stare!

InsertFunnyNameHere
Posted - 2010.09.03 09:34:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 10:10:13
Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 09:45:36
Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 09:35:50
Originally by: Ultim8Evil
I if you're stuck with Amarr ships and insistant on staying in Amarr, why not try something like the Autocannon Veng or HAM Sacri?

At least then you get to choose your damage type.


well i am stuck with amarr ships, but i can use all of them+Hams so a sacri would be possible and i am sure there are nice ham sacri fittings out there, but i am not really familiar with this ship yet ~ taking all suggestions i can get for a nice little hamsacri - also, a legion seems interessting

edit: to end any confusion, its all about ganking missionrunners

SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Aperture Science inc.
Posted - 2010.09.03 11:54:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere
Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 10:10:13
Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 09:45:36
Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 09:35:50
Originally by: Ultim8Evil
I if you're stuck with Amarr ships and insistant on staying in Amarr, why not try something like the Autocannon Veng or HAM Sacri?

At least then you get to choose your damage type.


well i am stuck with amarr ships, but i can use all of them+Hams so a sacri would be possible and i am sure there are nice ham sacri fittings out there, but i am not really familiar with this ship yet ~ taking all suggestions i can get for a nice little hamsacri - also, a legion seems interessting

edit: to end any confusion, its all about ganking missionrunners


Ganking as in in-corp or canflipped ganking or ganking as in killfast b4 concord raeps yuor faic?

David Yanakov
Avis de Captura
Posted - 2010.09.03 12:32:00 - [10]
 

For suicide ganking the geddon in the first reply works quite well. If you're looking to hunt war targets, the sacrilege works. It has enough tank to handle anything a few PvE fit ships can put out, the speed to run down battleships and the fact it uses missiles means you can pick your damage type to be the opposite of whatever the rat type is.

LiNuXb0y
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.09.03 12:56:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 02/09/2010 17:33:08
Armegddon is Popular

Highs
7 Duel Pulse Lasers(Meta 4 or Tech 2)
1 Large Nuet

Mids
Heavy Cap Boost
Warp Disrupter 2
100mn Afterburner

Lows
3 1600mm Plates
2 EANM 2
1 DCU 2
3 Heat Sink 2

Drones
5 Heavies

You will Probably want to go to Caldari Space, There Ships are Sheild Tanked. Besides that the Nuet should shut down any mission tank.



WTB Gedon with 9 lows Shocked

Something like this will do for a Gedon:

[Armageddon, pvp copy 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Corpii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Corpii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Damage Control II

100MN Afterburner II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x4
Warrior II x1
Warrior II x4

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.09.03 13:11:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 03/09/2010 13:10:49
Originally by: LiNuXb0y

WTB Gedon with 9 lows Shocked


You mean yours doesn't have nine lows!

I bet you buy off the market brand shipsRazz

InsertFunnyNameHere
Posted - 2010.09.03 14:03:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 14:18:10

ganking as in war targets/can flipped ganking and mission lootsteal-ganking ~me beeing the one that steals and hopes for some aggressive actions~ (or however you want to call the last version)
(sometimes suicide ganking but i got my fittings for this kind of work)

ive got an idea about a geddon now, anyone wanna provide some legion/sacri fittings? or any other amarr hull ;)

i thought about a dual rep sacri but i keep reading that it might get problems with getting alphaed due to the low buffer, on the other side the plated sacri seems to be a BC in a t2 hull

edit: before the question comes up: yes empire./will face battleships most of the time

BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
Posted - 2010.09.03 14:26:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere


i thought about a dual rep sacri but i keep reading that it might get problems with getting alphaed due to the low buffer, on the other side the plated sacri seems to be a BC in a t2 hull

edit: before the question comes up: yes empire.



Sac sucks for three reasons:
1) You either fit it for pure gank or pure tank, there is no middle ground....If you go gank, you have crap ehp but good dps...If you go tank, you have crap dps but a good tank

2) HAM range...You'll find this very annoying

3) Price just isnt worth it


InsertFunnyNameHere
Posted - 2010.09.04 00:23:00 - [15]
 

so, how about a ham legion?

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.09.04 00:29:00 - [16]
 

Do it in an AB Crusader. Seriously!

-Liang

Noun Verber
Gallente
Posted - 2010.09.04 01:28:00 - [17]
 

Suiciding or aggro'd?

Terra Mikael
Horizon Dynamics
Posted - 2010.09.04 05:55:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: BuckStrider
Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere


i thought about a dual rep sacri but i keep reading that it might get problems with getting alphaed due to the low buffer, on the other side the plated sacri seems to be a BC in a t2 hull

edit: before the question comes up: yes empire.



Sac sucks for three reasons:
1) You either fit it for pure gank or pure tank, there is no middle ground....If you go gank, you have crap ehp but good dps...If you go tank, you have crap dps but a good tank

2) HAM range...You'll find this very annoying

3) Price just isnt worth it




1)Lows: 2 medium reps, DC, EANM, Faction Damage mode = = 500dps tank with about 500dps. Choose your damage type and you will never have a problem with missioners.

2) HAM range? With good skills you can hit past 20k. With no skills, you can hit at 10. If you can't get in that close in a cruiser, you fail.

3)For ships, you get what you put into it. If you want to be a cheap bastard, you could fly kestrels all day. Just don't be upset when you don't get much out of it.

RentableMuffin
Posted - 2010.09.04 06:38:00 - [19]
 

I failed to gank a cnr with a geddon once, forgot to trimark it and only had t1 crystals Sad

Weeka
GET A JOB
Posted - 2010.09.04 10:43:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Terra Mikael
1)Lows: 2 medium reps, DC, EANM, Faction Damage mode = = 500dps tank with about 500dps.


According to eft thats 418 dps (with rage) and 345 dps tank, max skills

Just saying

Scorpionidae
Posted - 2010.09.04 15:20:00 - [21]
 

Most ppl would use a Hurricane to gank those MR but you want Amarr ships so...


[Harbinger-MR Gank]

Lows:
Damage Control II
1600 RRT plate
X2 Energized Adaptive Nano Membrain II
X2 Heat Sink II
Meds:
Medium Capacitor Booster II with 800 size cap boosters
Best named AB
Best named warp disruptor
Best named Web
Highs:
X6 Focused Medium Pulse laser II
X2 Medium Neuts

And 5 T2 Med Drones

The Neuts are very important so they can not use there active tank Twisted Evil. Which then makes the Cap boosters very important to.

Have fun Killing the MR

Scorpionidae

InsertFunnyNameHere
Posted - 2010.09.04 16:00:00 - [22]
 

2x EANM ?

that would require a 5% implant, i guess 1 eanm and 1 adaptive nano plating II will work too


also, are there no usefull legion fits (lasers/hams) for MR ganks? D:

Scorpionidae
Posted - 2010.09.04 16:50:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere
2x EANM ?

that would require a 5% implant, i guess 1 eanm and 1 adaptive nano plating II will work too


Are you talking about the fit I posted because you need no Implants for that.

Terra Mikael
Horizon Dynamics
Posted - 2010.09.04 18:14:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Terra Mikael on 04/09/2010 18:21:58

Originally by: Weeka
Originally by: Terra Mikael
1)Lows: 2 medium reps, DC, EANM, Faction Damage mode = = 500dps tank with about 500dps.


According to eft thats 418 dps (with rage) and 345 dps tank, max skills

Just saying


I dunno what to say. Learn2EFT?Rolling Eyes

InsertFunnyNameHere
Posted - 2010.09.04 21:40:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Scorpionidae
Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere
2x EANM ?

that would require a 5% implant, i guess 1 eanm and 1 adaptive nano plating II will work too


Are you talking about the fit I posted because you need no Implants for that.


my bad, stupid me efted with a named mwd ~.~

andeira
Posted - 2010.09.05 00:37:00 - [26]
 

cause I just LOVE missile ships I made a sacri fit for you

[Sacrilege, mission runner killer]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
Warp Disruptor II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I

409 DPS with rage missiles (selectable damage type FTW)
579 m/s so run around those BS's
capstable when neut is off or one of the reps is off
440 DPS omnitank with thermal lowest resist at 71%
sigradius of 182 wich is nice combined with the speed you probably only need 1 repper anyway

and ofcourse you can add 15 m3 of drones wathever you like

this probably is not the most efficient ship to kill mission runners but to me it seems to be the most fun one to use

Weeka
GET A JOB
Posted - 2010.09.05 07:06:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Terra Mikael
I dunno what to say. Learn2EFT?Rolling Eyes


You're right, you really don't know what to say.

So how about you admit you were wrong, otherwise I suggest you present an actual fitting that shows what you claim, and what at the moment 3 people here dispute.

Sag can be fitted to tank or to gank, not both, and certainly not to the extend you claim.

Poeser Rufus
Posted - 2010.09.05 13:59:00 - [28]
 

440 tank 587 dps, almost 500/500

[Sacrilege, New Setup 1]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I



 

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