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Kolterr
Posted - 2010.08.30 01:15:00 - [1]
 

Hello, I have had this account for a little over a year now, only played about 3 weeks total out of that year. The idea of the game is great, space, open pvp, exploration etc.. etc.. but the main problem with this game is making isk! :(

Grinding lvl 2-3-4 missions?! Sure if they had a little variety, but it gets dull and ultra boring very very fast, MINING? I'd enjoy mining if I could macro bot it but that is illegal, PI? I tried PI, the return from it is not very lucrative, start trading? you need capital first, how do you get capital? missions/mining/ratting, again you need to do a bunch of mundaine and boring stuff to even have a chance of starting some trading (and then there is the risk of choosing the wrong market and not having any of your stuff turned over)

Now I have another option, which is spending rl money on plex, that would be fine with me if I had a full time job which I do not have :(

So yeah, I would really love to play this game more but it is a pitty on how I have to go through bunch of boring stuff to get an hour or so of entertainment, don't think I will be renewing or logging onto this game anymore :(

Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
Posted - 2010.08.30 01:17:00 - [2]
 

you're doing it wrong

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.30 01:18:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 30/08/2010 01:23:27

The point of making ISK at least remotely tedious to get is to make losses MEAN something.
If the losses mean next to nothing to you, a huge part of the attraction is gone.
Of course, if the losses mean too much to you, that's again not very good either.
So you have two choices : either start making more ISK per "work-unit", or start flying cheaper stuff.
Either way, taking a look at possible ways to make ISK (and hopefully finding something that's not mindnumbingly annoying TO YOU) could be a good idea : Linkage

If you're STILL not satisfied and really, REALLY want to "play the game" with ISK taken out of the equation...
...LOG ON TO THE SINGULARITY (TEST) SERVER, where almost everything is for sale at 100 ISK (but insurance payouts are the same as on Tranquility).
Head on to FD-MLJ, then to one of the designated combat beacons, and fight as much as you like with next to no consequences.

Aurum Bellator
Posted - 2010.08.30 01:19:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Aurum Bellator on 30/08/2010 01:27:11
Edited by: Aurum Bellator on 30/08/2010 01:26:34
Edited by: Aurum Bellator on 30/08/2010 01:22:14

I started playing in May of this year, and I've made about 3 billion isk in that time period by trading. That's with a few hours a day (2-3) on average. Making isk really isn't the problem, skill training time is!

I am by no means very successful at making isk --- there are many who have done far better.

If you take Akita T's advice, you will most definitely make a lot of isk. My small success over the past few months have been in part relying on a lot of her and other very knowledgeable players' advice in the Market Discussion forum.


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start trading? you need capital first, how do you get capital? missions/mining/ratting, again you need to do a bunch of mundaine and boring stuff to even have a chance of starting some trading (and then there is the risk of choosing the wrong market and not having any of your stuff turned over)


You can easily start trading with as little as 5m isk. I'd recommend starting with 100m but honestly you could start with 5m isk and get to 100m in about 15 days time. There are some that started trading with 5,000 isk (the starter wallet) and made billions without even leaving their station. Also, trading is some of the most fun pvp in the game, in my opinion. It will give you the chance to be flush with cash and get into expensive ships and not even blink when you get blown up.

AUB

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.08.30 01:48:00 - [5]
 

Trading can be great isk, and I find it enjoyable, too. You can start with as little isk as you want, though of course the most starting capital the quicker you'll be turning out REAL profit. There was a challenge a few months ago where some market guys started new alts, and with only the 5000 ISK they started with, traded in Jita. So that kinda proves it is possible.

The easiest and most profitable way of trading with only a little bit of isk is to do inter-regional trading, like between Jita and Amarr. If you get the right items, you can easily make 2x to 3x the isk you put in in one run. Once you have a lot of isk, market trading in Jita becomes easier, but you'll only make maybe 10-15% without any huge effort. (Yea, a lot more is possible, but that's not the point...)

Or, try scamming... Cool

Noun Verber
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.30 01:49:00 - [6]
 

I LIKE doing lvl1 missions every once in a while


 

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