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Garbad theWeak
Posted - 2010.08.23 17:10:00 - [1]
 

I've lived in 0.0 for the last 18 months and been involved in some wars. I very much enjoy the huge brawls, although in my case they have been pretty rare. But off the top of my head I remember:

May 2009 or so, about 350 vs 500, most BS with carrier/dread support and one titan that got killed. I had all graphics setting on low with no brackets and had minimal lag. I remember wondering why all the bitter old vets cried about lag, actually.

Dec 2009 or so, 200 of us vs 180 of them. Moderate lag, only 50 ships out of the 350 that started survived!

Jan 2010 or so, 350 of us vs 150, I experienced little lag but some of my blues said they died before loading grid.

May 2010 or so, my fleet NAPed with some people and tried to brawl it up in a contested system. There were 1100 or so people in local at peak, but thanks to terrible lag and the inherent pussification of all eve players the fleets never actually shot each other and danced around for 2.5 hours before everyone ragequit.

Last month, 50 of us vs 750 or so enemy, they lagged so badly we killed a few and warped off as the server imploded.

I've seen a lot of 200v70 staring contests as well, and more recently the death of all large fleet combat thanks to lag and boredom tactics. The best to me seems like about 100 as most alliances can easily field that many and 100v100 is a great, large scale fight without so much lag or difficulty getting people together.

What about you? What are the biggest/best fights you've been a part of?

Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
Posted - 2010.08.23 17:18:00 - [2]
 

900+ in system 2 weeks ago, was on the side of 700 that was entering the target system while the other 200 were camping the gate. The result from jumping in was horrendous. Somehow after taking half a hour to load grid we were still alive, after that the ensuing lag was ROFL quality, you would be burning off the gate and the next moment the game would update your position at 500km off because you got a free mwd ride out there without using any cap. Everything else was just as wtf, modules would cycle without targets, cap boosters were infinite, ghost ships were everywhere.

Razzor Death
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.08.23 17:20:00 - [3]
 

1300+ when delve fell and goons and pl made there 1st push. Lag was horrific but you could manipulate it to make it work for you.



Apostrophe Man
Posted - 2010.08.23 18:11:00 - [4]
 

JV1V?

Minchurra
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.23 18:15:00 - [5]
 

Y8R Just before christmas.

I dont even think local peaked over 1000 but it was ridiculously laggy.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.23 18:37:00 - [6]
 

I had a big one with the wife a few days ago. Didnt notice any lag though, but the nag factor was pretty high.

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2010.08.23 18:39:00 - [7]
 

49-u back when BoB was dissolved.
Some days it was awesome with 1400 people in local. Others, it was lagged to death at half of that.

Hyveres
Caldari
Resilience.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.08.23 18:40:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Hyveres on 23/08/2010 18:43:28
Was in a few 1200+ pre dominon and lag was there but manageble.

Thing is performance nowadays is random I've seen 200 man fights lag worse than 400 fights but anything above 800 is more or less hopeless. Using manual cycling of guns you might be able to fire every 20-30 sec with guns that normally have a RoF of 7 sec. And lag on warp, movement and targetting is utterly hopeless.

The killer for large scale engagements these days however is not lag, it is black screen of doom, where you sit watching the black screen as your grid or jump loads and 15-30 minutes later(sometimes more) you are in a new clone at your home station without ever seeing what killed you.

Prince Deimos
Kwame's Executive Protection Detail
Posted - 2010.08.23 18:47:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Razzor Death
1300+ when delve fell and goons and pl made there 1st push. Lag was horrific but you could manipulate it to make it work for you.





Yeah there were many days where 800 was the norm and several fights over 1200 or 1300 in local. The first Delve invasion was crazy, lag was horrible and the game had a lot of random server crashes back then. It seems funny that we all complained how lag always seemed to help BoB and how happy we were several months later when lag started to disappear and fleet fights were fun.

Now a days I would be pretty happy to have the KIA/MC lag we had that christmas back as opposed to the unplayable kind we have today.

Gecko O'Bac
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.08.23 18:52:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Apostrophe Man
JV1V?


This. Biggest battle at the time and one of the biggest yet. Around 1400, 1600 total combatants though it'd be hard to know how many were in the local at most since the node crashed three times.
That was way before apocrypha though, lag wasn't much of an issue since node simply crashed when it was starting to become unbearable.

Haven't been to many big fleet fights since then, not anything on that scale anyway. Multiple hundreds of players clashing though is kinda common.

Rhohan
Minmatar Marauders
Posted - 2010.08.23 20:31:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Apostrophe Man
JV1V?


This brings back memories.
Been a few years too.



El Liptonez
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2010.08.23 20:40:00 - [12]
 

H-W a few months ago. Local peaked at 1800 before the node died, or maybe 1700, don't remember too well.

The node was unplayable, and fortunately it eventually crashed. Especially fortunate for the defenders who just cherrypicked everything from the towers which left reinforced mode during the crash.
The moment a few hundred people warped around and started shooting, there was stuck modules over minutes. Warps happened 5 minutes after commands were given, POSes wouldn't load for 30 minutes after you warped into them.

BUT I wouldn't really call H-W an example of bad lag, as fights didn't really happen. Mostly ganks which only require one side shooting.



Better example: A few months before , in F-5 when removing RA from Scalding Pass. During Apocrypha times if I'm not mistaken. What I was told was that the node for the system we expected to fight in was reinforced, but the fight took place in F-5 isntead, which was not reinforced. 1200 people duking it out, all on the same grid on an unreinforced node.

But the interesting part is: We titan bridged on a 600 hostiles' grid, it only took about 10 minutes to load. Nothing crashed, module and warp lag was around a few minutes (which has always been like that). I even managed to turn on brackets to take a few shots with fraps.

Akhmed TDT
Posted - 2010.08.23 21:23:00 - [13]
 

1v1 on a cyno alt caught at a gate. This was to be expected, but getting the insurance mail and pod activation notice before I could tell I was locked down and being podded wasn't. The whole time I was spamming the dock button.

Jita Alt666
Posted - 2010.08.23 21:44:00 - [14]
 

+1000 in local fights:
49- when IT/BOB/Kenzoku/No Friends fell, at the time we thought it was very laggy - it was however playable
Y-2 fighting against stupid goons, was a turkey shoot. They were there but it was obvious they didnt load as no module activation was evident. Still 200kms in one day.
HED Same as above execpt on the recieving end. I suppose this means that CCP will claim that 0.0 combat is fair.
J1V Ha- CCP have released another patch and not fixed the issues caused by dominion.

Jita Alt666
Posted - 2010.08.23 21:48:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Akhmed TDT
1v1 on a cyno alt caught at a gate. This was to be expected, but getting the insurance mail and pod activation notice before I could tell I was locked down and being podded wasn't. The whole time I was spamming the dock button.


According to gms:
1. Your client has failed to provide you with correct information you were dead before you client passed on packets.
2. Spamming dock/jump causes the client to incorrectly pass on information.

in other words: its your fault for spamming dock/jump that you were killed before your client passed on upto date information and hence causing you to die before you activated any commands.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.08.23 23:01:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Ascendic on 23/08/2010 23:01:34
Battle in 49- during 2nd BoB war. ~2500 in system. It was a slide-show, but hey at least we could still shoot things and didnt node crash or not load grid.

Ghoest
Posted - 2010.08.23 23:08:00 - [17]
 

Hey Garbad, I dont remember seeing you since PotBS.

I avoid fleet warfare like the plague.

Jack Airron
Gallente
Wrecking Shots
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2010.08.23 23:29:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Garbad theWeak
I've lived in 0.0 for the last 18 months and been involved in some wars. I very much enjoy the huge brawls, although in my case they have been pretty rare. But off the top of my head I remember:

May 2009 or so, about 350 vs 500, most BS with carrier/dread support and one titan that got killed. I had all graphics setting on low ?


Graphics are rendered Client side, no information about graphics is transmitted trough the eve server to the client causing lag.


I was in the 700V700 fight when IT invaded h-w lag was the worse i have ever seen in the game.


Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.08.24 01:42:00 - [19]
 

d-g during the providence conflict.

over 1000 in local. That was miserable.


And not just because we lost horribly.

TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.08.24 02:03:00 - [20]
 

H-W when IT/aaa/atlas got their teeth well and truelly kicked in. Local peaked at about 2,000 people before the node completely crashed.

Panzram
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.08.24 04:06:00 - [21]
 

the most people was the same 1600+ delve battles others have referenced, it wasnt the worst lag tho, not even top 20, but that was pre dominion
post dominion there have been several sub 300 battles that were much much worse then those mega battles from delve, hell there are been battles of 70 pilots that were worse then the 1300 pilot battles from a year ago. dominion was a major blow to this game

John Comer
Posted - 2010.08.24 07:51:00 - [22]
 

Battle at E-FT

could watch entire shows on tv while waiting fro grids to load

Khors
El Barco Pirata
Posted - 2010.08.24 08:38:00 - [23]
 

750 in my system, 700 enemies in the next. Noone dared jump in to the other one.
Then as we decided to go back home the node crashed as soon as people started jumping out.
Epic.

Hanneshannes
Posted - 2010.08.24 08:52:00 - [24]
 

1300 and local was the only thing that loaded. Spent there about 3 hours (lookingat our jump bridge titan), then I loaded station.

Ocih
Amarr
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2010.08.24 09:04:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Ocih on 24/08/2010 09:06:09
1400 local was as high as I got.
It was a slide show battle. I was greatfull to load in station back in high sec. Just to end it.

I stopped fleeting 9 months ago. Its all DOA right now.

- Down side, Ocih was created and skilled for fleet fights. It was to be her niche.
- Up side, I can fly every Amarr ship in EvE right now because I dumped my skill lines to fleet pro.

Kara Mitsui
Perkone
Posted - 2010.08.24 09:13:00 - [26]
 

Back in 2007, when I first started playing Eve, I did missions and empire crap for a bout 3 months, then took the plunge and got into a 0.0 alliance.

One the same day I managed to move my hangar crap to my new home system, I participated in my first ever fleet fight. I was fighting for Bob against Goons, and I didn't even know who either of those was or what it meant. This was down south somewhere, and on our side was about 600 BS with a vrey small number of other support ships. We got bridged into a Goon system using two Titans. This was my first ever fleet fight and to this day I've never been in anything bigger.

Remember, this was back in mid-2007 when having two titans on the field was really special. I had never even seen a carrier before, then suddenly I was in a fight with dozens of carriers, a dozen MOMs, and two titans on our side alone.

Anyway, Goons had about 800 in system when we bridged our fleet in, I had no idea what I was supposed to be doing but it didn't matter. The node went to 100% utilization, I had black screen for 45 minutes until eventually I loaded the grid in a pod. Lag was horrific and at that point I just logged out for good.

For my first fleet fight I had pretty much experienced the very limit of the end-game - masses of capital ships, 1200 players fighting at once, and lag so bad it made every thing else completely irrelevant.

Molish
Gallente
Mobetta Star Systems
Posted - 2010.08.24 11:14:00 - [27]
 

Customer service.

Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.08.24 11:30:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Cat Casidy on 24/08/2010 11:31:19
JV1V, 1000 vs 1000 ish. There was no lag, everything just broke.

Jovialmadness
Posted - 2010.08.24 13:25:00 - [29]
 

I cant remember how many. Ive been in 1000+ fights plenty and never seen the grid. I spent most of my time filing stuck petitions just to have fun with CCP(strikes chest gangsta style). Hey i felt stuck ccp so dont hate on me too much.



 

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