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Albetta
Gallente
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2010.08.22 14:10:00 - [1]
 

Seriously. I feel like a second class citizen. Our client sucks, and probably won't get patched for a few weeks, meaning i'll be restarting my computer 3 or four times a day just to log in. On top of that and the broken browser, the jukebox STILL LOOPS.Im not writing this thread to complain(although i can certainly see why you would think that), i just want CCP to devote a little more resources towards the one mac you have sitting in the corner of your office.

Nishan Umed
Posted - 2010.08.22 20:22:00 - [2]
 

i agree, in fact i would go as far as to say that it is unreasonable to for ccp to say it actually has a mac client. i am pretty sure the pre-requisite of a mac client are the fact that it is actually compatible with the mac. With the latest issues added to the irritating and so far completely unaddressed (as far as i can see) graphics issues, i going to start canceling some accounts.

ugh

Glo Basker
Posted - 2010.08.23 00:24:00 - [3]
 

I play Eve almost every day on my macbook 2.5 mhz core 2 duo.

Despite the client crashes when I jump through gates and the current list of issues that seem to be across the platforms, I don't have that much to complain about that is Mac specific. I suspect that the Mac client is slower and more laggy than then windows version, but I have yet to comapre.

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2010.08.23 08:00:00 - [4]
 

We have an internal Macforce team which consists of several members of the QA team, Mac technical GMs, and several software engineers, all of whom work closely with Transgaming on the Mac client. Each week I also review each new thread published in this channel and write a report based on feedback from players.

One of the best ways that players can help us is to test the Mac client on the Singularity test server. For example, long before we announced Tyrannis 1.0.4 to the general public, we announced testing here in the Mac channel. The more eyeballs there are, the much quicker problems can be found and the more quickly information can be gathered, reproduced and resolved.

Ravenstain
Caldari
Future Corps
Posted - 2010.08.23 12:18:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Ravenstain on 23/08/2010 12:18:58
I really like EVE and I play it quite a lot. I am happy there is a Mac client for it, but tbh for some weeks now Iv not been using it, because I found that Windows client works better even on a Mac. Seriously, I don't doubt that you work hard on the Mac client, but don't you think that it's about time to drop the Transgaming Cyder wrapper? I mean, even the Wine wrapper works much better, apart from some minor graphical glitches. I can't, naturally, teach you how to do your job, but I think it would be good if you explored some different options for the Mac client. A native client would be ideal, but... Anyway... I know that Mythbusters prowed that you can polish a turd (Cyder client Wink), but at the end of the day you sill end up with a turd, or be it a shiny one.

My 2 ISK.
With respect
Ravenstain

Lotus Starshine
Posted - 2010.08.23 19:36:00 - [6]
 

I've been very pleased so far with the mac gameplay. Other than the browser difficulties- it has been pretty bug free.

Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
Halinallen veroparatiisi
Inglorious Carebears
Posted - 2010.08.24 10:20:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout

One of the best ways that players can help us is to test the Mac client on the Singularity test server. For example, long before we announced Tyrannis 1.0.4 to the general public, we announced testing here in the Mac channel. The more eyeballs there are, the much quicker problems can be found and the more quickly information can be gathered, reproduced and resolved.


But I'm still suffering the same crashes I was suffering 1.5years ago...now that I came back, also we still can't quit from the menu....(that problem I already had 2 years ago). Quick™.

Lederstrumpf
Posted - 2010.09.24 11:11:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 24/09/2010 11:29:57
Originally by: CCP Fallout
We have an internal Macforce team which consists of several members of the QA team, Mac technical GMs, and several software engineers, all of whom work closely with Transgaming on the Mac client. Each week I also review each new thread published in this channel and write a report based on feedback from players.

One of the best ways that players can help us is to test the Mac client on the Singularity test server. For example, long before we announced Tyrannis 1.0.4 to the general public, we announced testing here in the Mac channel. The more eyeballs there are, the much quicker problems can be found and the more quickly information can be gathered, reproduced and resolved.


To quote your words: "The more eyeballs there are..."

If you are the ONLY one reviewing only NEW threads and only write a WEEKLY summary... then you are a SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE!!!

If reporting stuff from here equals work (having to write a report) rather than fun (getting free beer and kudos for successfully forwarding free user feedback) it's obvious some effort on your side might go elsewhere instead, too.

A plethora or "Macforce" team members just won't help if stuff gets filtered or delayed at forum and bugtracker level!

Up to today CCP didn't manage to have the crashes on stargate jumping acknowledged!

And please: Stop pointing with the fingers at us for not testing some beta software for free. Stop playing that ******ed "You don't test so I can't code!" string. I write flash game reviews for like 20 cents an hour and piece on mturk.com instead for fun ... as it's even more rewarding than the insulting "singularity points" CCP did offer. And hell those flash game developers are fast, you can actually see your input has an influence! Why should I even consider joining Singularity if you don't even give what feels like enough attention to feedback in here or in the bugtracker?

You have some serious attitude to expect players to increase their workload and free feedback if you can't even cope with the free feedback already given!!! Open up your eyes! It's so ****ing simple to see why people do show you the middle finger.

P.S.: Don't take this as a personal insult. You personally can't do better than you can within a structure not supporting you. Move this comment of mine up the CCP food chain, please, to improve the situation for Mac players! But how's the saying? If the head of the fish stinks, so does the fish?

Chequita
Posted - 2010.09.26 06:47:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Chequita on 26/09/2010 06:57:46
CCP/transgaming is putting so much effort in this "mac" client - if they just put in the effort for a native mac client I/we would be much happier.

I do not believe that CCP has a mac team - as if they did they should have seen and fixed the issues we have now as they are mostlikely using the same mac we are using

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2010.09.26 10:10:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 24/09/2010 11:29:57
Originally by: CCP Fallout
We have an internal Macforce team which consists of several members of the QA team, Mac technical GMs, and several software engineers, all of whom work closely with Transgaming on the Mac client. Each week I also review each new thread published in this channel and write a report based on feedback from players.

One of the best ways that players can help us is to test the Mac client on the Singularity test server. For example, long before we announced Tyrannis 1.0.4 to the general public, we announced testing here in the Mac channel. The more eyeballs there are, the much quicker problems can be found and the more quickly information can be gathered, reproduced and resolved.


To quote your words: "The more eyeballs there are..."

If you are the ONLY one reviewing only NEW threads and only write a WEEKLY summary... then you are a SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE!!!

If reporting stuff from here equals work (having to write a report) rather than fun (getting free beer and kudos for successfully forwarding free user feedback) it's obvious some effort on your side might go elsewhere instead, too.

A plethora or "Macforce" team members just won't help if stuff gets filtered or delayed at forum and bugtracker level!

Up to today CCP didn't manage to have the crashes on stargate jumping acknowledged!

And please: Stop pointing with the fingers at us for not testing some beta software for free. Stop playing that ******ed "You don't test so I can't code!" string. I write flash game reviews for like 20 cents an hour and piece on mturk.com instead for fun ... as it's even more rewarding than the insulting "singularity points" CCP did offer. And hell those flash game developers are fast, you can actually see your input has an influence! Why should I even consider joining Singularity if you don't even give what feels like enough attention to feedback in here or in the bugtracker?

You have some serious attitude to expect players to increase their workload and free feedback if you can't even cope with the free feedback already given!!! Open up your eyes! It's so ****ing simple to see why people do show you the middle finger.

P.S.: Don't take this as a personal insult. You personally can't do better than you can within a structure not supporting you. Move this comment of mine up the CCP food chain, please, to improve the situation for Mac players! But how's the saying? If the head of the fish stinks, so does the fish?



Yes, I can almost imagine Fallout running, clutching this, printed on a bit of paper heading right for Hilmar's office. Rolling Eyes


 

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