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Roboplegic
Amarr
Posted - 2010.08.24 13:42:00 - [241]
 

And your still a redneck d*ck.

even though a recist remark isn't intended to be offensive, in some cases hardly appropriate. It still has low quality comedy value, unless your a especially good comedian that can use a bit of intellect in the insults, i would avoid it unless you want to look like a low IQ american redneck 6-fingered illiterate pidgin english speaking d*ck. Something which comes quite naturally for you lot

Verrenici
Posted - 2010.08.24 13:54:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: Roboplegic
And your still a redneck d*ck.

even though a recist remark isn't intended to be offensive, in some cases hardly appropriate. It still has low quality comedy value, unless your a especially good comedian that can use a bit of intellect in the insults, i would avoid it unless you want to look like a low IQ american redneck 6-fingered illiterate pidgin english speaking d*ck. Something which comes quite naturally for you lot


I'm Jewish and live in the Netherlands. Also

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your a especially [...] low IQ american redneck 6-fingered illiterate


Thumbs up, you're clearly on the high end of the intellectual bell-curve.

Roboplegic
Amarr
Posted - 2010.08.24 14:02:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Verrenici


I'm Jewish and live in the Netherlands.


Your not doing any favours for yourself then.

Verrenici
Posted - 2010.08.24 14:08:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: Roboplegic
Your not doing any favours for yourself then.


For someone who claims to dislike illiterates, you sure suck at reading comprehension.

Mister Gimp
Posted - 2010.08.24 14:09:00 - [245]
 

Originally by: Verrenici
Edited by: Verrenici on 24/08/2010 13:26:00
Originally by: Yesh
they are still considered offensive.


By who? Think about it. There is no more racism save for words. N***er is only funny (yes, I called it funny) because Blacks get ****y when you say it. The second they stop caring, it stops being a racial slur and starts being just another insult.

Unless you're a hundred and fifty years old, and were lashed for not sitting in the back of the bus, you've never, ever been the victim of real racism. You're just another self-centered douchebag that thinks he should be protected from harassment, without batting an eye when he witnesses it happening to somebody else.

I'll bet you OP wouldn't have given a **** if someone yelled Jew over vent.

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This guy is a ****.

the poster above me has got it spot on


Your logic is flawless. I bet you were the star on your debate team.


Can't agree with you here. OK I haven't been the victim of racism (being white and all), but I have seen its effects. I was staying in Blackpool and was walking back to my hotel when two white thugs started on an a pakistani guy in the street. The only reason they abused then attacked him was cos of the colour of his skin. Nothing else. I remember him shouting 'I have done nothing to you' but they still beat him up. I was there. He did nothing wrong except being a colour these two idiots had been taught by their parents to be an affront to what is right to the world.

What did I do? Nothing. I was scared. I was scared that if I intervened I would get my head kicked in. After they swaggered off I ran to see if he was OK. I was sickened that it had happened, but their venomous hatred was so great that I feared for my own safety if I stepped in.

So don't give me some crap about being 150 years old and not being sent to the back of a bus. OK so I was a coward for not stepping in, but racism happens. Violent racism happens. It's not just words that we should 'harden the f**k up' to. It's violence and a deep seated hatred born of ignorance that is our enemy here.

As said, I haven't been the victim of racism, but I have been the victim of prejudice. I'm ga.y and have to endure well meaning jokes about it from people close to me and from work colleagues. If there was no prejudice about it then they wouldn't even feel the need to make jokes. It would be as insignificant as if I prefered cornflakes or wheatabix for breakfast. The fact that I have to type g.ay to get round the filter shows that the word g.ay is considered a foul vile offensive word that needs censoring.


So TL;DR words can be offensive and go fu*k yourself and get a coat that fits you backward brainwashed tit.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.24 14:31:00 - [246]
 

Originally by: Mister Gimp
The fact that I have to type g.ay to get round the filter shows that the word g.ay is considered a foul vile offensive word that needs censoring.

Actually, you don't. Gay. See ?
It's the other word (that's also used by brits to call a cigarette) that's censored.

Mister Gimp
Posted - 2010.08.24 14:41:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Mister Gimp
The fact that I have to type g.ay to get round the filter shows that the word g.ay is considered a foul vile offensive word that needs censoring.

Actually, you don't. Gay. See ?
It's the other word (that's also used by brits to call a cigarette) that's censored.



Well I never! That was me being prejudiced against the filter :) Sorry.

Sully Tude
Posted - 2010.08.24 15:10:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Mister Gimp


The only reason they abused then attacked him was cos of the colour of his skin. Nothing else.


Newsflash: People beat the **** out of people for the hell of it every day. How come when two caucasians beat up another caucasian it's considered just "assault" but if they beat up another race it's suddenly a "hate crime?" People are inherantly jerks and will justify their behaviour any way they can.

Just because someone beats you up while making fun of your skin colour, it doesn't give you the right to claim you're the victim of "racism" and get to have special treatment and run around calling everyone of the same race as your attackers a "racist." It just means you're surrounded by morons. Move somewhere more intelligent.

Digital Solaris
Posted - 2010.08.24 15:58:00 - [249]
 

sup mah nignogs

BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
Posted - 2010.08.24 16:26:00 - [250]
 

Edited by: BrundleMeth on 24/08/2010 16:30:37
Most of the time when people crap about racism, they are pointing their fingers at white people. But after working in a shop with one other white person beside me and 30 ethnic people I saw the worst racism ever coming from them.

Many of the countries like India, Pakistan, Phillipines to this day still have their caste systems. The routinely treat their own people like crap. The dhalits also know as "untouchables" despised by their own people well.
The ethnic asians who still have a hate on for what the Japanese did to them during the war.
Here in Canada we make fun of "newfies" as being dumb hicks. I had one woman from India when refering to Sikhs laugh at them and said "In my country they are our newfies".
I experienced ethic people who lived here in Canada for 30 years or more who REFUSE to learn English. Don't they want to communicate with us?
And how many of them who live here decades that still refer to their country of origin as "My country"? They are Canadians of convience.

To hell with the whole whiny bunch of creeps crapping about racists, they should know, they wrote the book about how to practice it.

And as far as people being against gays, that will never change. You are always going to have a segment of the population that are simply disgusted by them and thats how it is...

Roboplegic
Amarr
Posted - 2010.08.24 16:32:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Sully Tude
Originally by: Mister Gimp


The only reason they abused then attacked him was cos of the colour of his skin. Nothing else.


Newsflash: People beat the **** out of people for the hell of it every day. How come when two caucasians beat up another caucasian it's considered just "assault" but if they beat up another race it's suddenly a "hate crime?" People are inherantly jerks and will justify their behaviour any way they can.

Just because someone beats you up while making fun of your skin colour, it doesn't give you the right to claim you're the victim of "racism" and get to have special treatment and run around calling everyone of the same race as your attackers a "racist." It just means you're surrounded by morons. Move somewhere more intelligent.


How dumb are you? where you there? Obviously there are jerks that beat up people just for the hell of it, but that isn't absolute. There are many other reasons a caucasian person would beat up some one from another race, at times it can be classed as an "assault" or a "hate crime". Frankly if someone beats you up while hurling racist slurs at you, you generally accept their actions against you as racist.

You talk like there aren't any people in the world who aren't inherently racist, wake up, or move somewhere more intelligent.

ceaon
Posted - 2010.08.24 16:36:00 - [252]
 

OP got trolled LaughingLaughingLaughing
ppl call each other ****** for the lolz even if they are white Laughing

Sully Tude
Posted - 2010.08.24 16:55:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: Roboplegic

You talk like there aren't any people in the world who aren't inherently racist, wake up, or move somewhere more intelligent.


No, I'm saying that there aren't MANY people in the world who aren't inherantly jerks, and they use racism as the excuse, not the cause.

What I'm trying to express is that I see far too many stories of people having the blame for an immoral act shifted from them as the dysfunctional individual to "racism in society being the cause," usually by the media.

I once had some Irish-ethnic, British-born guy who grew up in Hong Kong throwing racist remarks at me and telling me I'm nothing but a lousy immigrant despite the fact my family has been born, lived, and died in (and sometimes for) this country for at least three generations. Yes it's not as bad as getting beaten up by him, but I still don't blame his attitude on racism; the guy was just a moron (also, even without those remarks, he was still annoying as hell).

Yes, the world needs to become more tolerant, but I believe it needs to start by ignoring the differences between people. If someone assaults another person, the crime should be treated no differently then if the person was white, black, green or purple. It shouldn't be glorified and blown out of or under proportion just because of some lousy difference in skin pigmentation. All humans are the same, 99% of them are jack-holes. Get over it.

AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
Posted - 2010.08.24 18:16:00 - [254]
 

We all sleep under the same stars.

AK

BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
Posted - 2010.08.25 00:06:00 - [255]
 

Edited by: BrundleMeth on 25/08/2010 00:10:01
I am Canadian born in Canada. I tried to emigrate to the U.S. but I was told clearly I wasn't welcome. It was especially pathetic because my paternal grand parents were born and raised in Minnesota.

I laughed at the polish immigrant who said the U.S. had too many immigrants.

jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.08.25 15:52:00 - [256]
 

hi I`m a pastafarian .... but I never get offended when peopole insult my religion Very Happy

Squid Prime
Posted - 2010.08.26 11:50:00 - [257]
 

I couldn't be arsed to read past page 1 because i see the next 8 pages as utterly useless. Akita T said it VERY well: this kind of situation might have has some sense 30 years ago but NOWADAYS? Get a grip people.

Let me put it this way: are you THAT scandalized when someone calls you a mother****er? You're more affected by someone saying you're black or jew or whatever than them saying you have sexual intercourse with your own mother? This whole racism thing is exactly the same as trolling: it doesn't hurt anyone as long as you don't feed the troll. If people would stop giving such a huge weight to words coming from a total stranger, they would end up having no weight. It is the ones that feel "oppressed" that continue to inflate the impact of words, not the people who use them. Ignore, carry on and he will stop doing it because no one would care.

And of course, all the above apply to verbal "injuries" only. What happened in the past and had a physical and social scale manifestation form is a TOTALLY different story. It doesn't bare any weight on what Jonzun Crew heard on vent.

Johnny Malloy
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.08.26 13:37:00 - [258]
 

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No one should have to endure or accept prejudice. People who say 'Harden the F**k up' are just morons who have no idea. OK, so the person saying the N word probably didn't mean it as a racial slur, they were just talking 'street' (in their eyes) in the same way as someone who says 'thats so g.ay' to announce that they think something is very poor isn't homophobic.

But the word is mightier than the sword and some words have derogatory meanings attached no matter how they are used. I'm from Britain and take no offence at being called a 'Brit', but calling someone from Pakistan a 'Pa**i' is offensive. Not because of geographical stuff, but because small minded racists use that word as an insult and a blunt instrument of hate. Think about it. 'Ausie', 'Yank', 'Brit', 'Clog wearing cheese munchers' (for the ducth ) even 'Frog' aren't really that offensive, but although 'N***er' and 'P**ki' are still only derived from abbreviations of a nations name, they are still considered offensive.

The very fact that some words are deemed offensive suggests that racism is still rife no matter how PC we think ourselves to be.

So don't just sit back and take it. Challenge it head on. Don't let the person who said this get away with it.

As to your initial question ... yes this is common in typed convos and voice convos. But most of the time there is no malicious intent to it .. just ignorance to an issue that doesn't affect the person typing/speaking

/rant off


one of the best posts in this thread tbh. +1

Verrenici
Posted - 2010.08.26 16:49:00 - [259]
 

Edited by: Verrenici on 26/08/2010 17:00:17
Originally by: Roboplegic
How dumb are you? where you there? Obviously there are jerks that beat up people just for the hell of it, but that isn't absolute. There are many other reasons a caucasian person would beat up some one from another race, at times it can be classed as an "assault" or a "hate crime". Frankly if someone beats you up while hurling racist slurs at you, you generally accept their actions against you as racist.

You talk like there aren't any people in the world who aren't inherently racist, wake up, or move somewhere more intelligent.


I really like you. You make yourself look like an idiot, you're told why you're an idiot, and four posts later you're back to insulting others for being 'dumb'.

It's like watching Memento, only Guy Pearce has an extra chromosome.

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So TL;DR words can be offensive and go fu*k yourself and get a coat that fits you backward brainwashed tit.


Gay isn't wordfiltered. Your being offended by remarks regarding your sexuality has nothing to do with prejudice, but with your own insecurities. I've been on the receiving end of racism, but being that my heritage doesn't define me I can laugh it off, as can millions of other individuals stronger than you and OP. You make words hurt because you're a pansy.

Arianhod
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
Posted - 2010.08.26 19:55:00 - [260]
 

Edited by: Arianhod on 26/08/2010 19:55:02
Might be relevant but there was a segment in the Daily show last night about this particular word. See here for those in the UK.

EDIT - its the one on Wednesday


Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2010.08.26 22:24:00 - [261]
 

I realize that I am a racist for believing this (according to Jesse Jackson and friends...), but life has taught me to judge people by the content of their character.

"Judging people by the content of their character" means JUDGING them, possibly harshly, if their actions call for it. Nothing touch feelly about it. Celibrating diversity does not even enter the picture, nor should it.

As for the OP, he encountered an idiot who showed poor character. Hopefully he encountered the idiot while the idiot was at his worst, in which case its pretty minor.

Nasty talking idiots on the internet are a sad fact of life (and I'd love to see them all identified with their names posted, like the lady a few posts up who was caught being cruel to a kitten, but I aint holding my breath....)

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2010.08.26 22:57:00 - [262]
 

Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 26/08/2010 22:59:04

Just the other day someone cut me off in their little **** mobile and I gave him a hand gesture that would typically accompany the words "Go right on ahead". At the next light he stuck his head out the window and said, "Get out of that car ***** and I will kick your ass." I just laughed because ***** was the best thing a black man could come up with to call a white guy.

Words only have as much power as you let them have. I have been called skinhead, ****, white trash, honky, trailer trash, white devil, and numerous others, but I always chalk it up to the ignorance of the one using the words. I have black friends that are cool with me using the word ***** and others that prefer that white people not let the word roll off their tongue.

On the first day I worked with a Division I basketball team they constantly used the word ***** in the training room. The second day I was there I asked a few of them if it was fine for that word to roll off my tongue since I have black friends that are fine with it, and I specifically said ***** when I asked. They all said no. I then said that they are not allowed to use it while in the training room when I am around since if they were using it then it is likely that it will roll out my mouth at some point and if they could not handle that then they need to refrain from using it around me.

Either way I highly suggest reading the following book, ******: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word, by Harvard Law Professor Randall Kennedy.


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Originally by: Digital Solaris
sup mah nignogs


LMAO!! That is what I call my roommate from my first year in colleg. Primarily because he is mulattoLaughing


Slade


Siko lawk
Posted - 2010.08.27 08:57:00 - [263]
 

yeah its pretty damn lame but unfortunately it happens when people can say things safely behind a monitor.

I've got a couple of black mates, I say racist stuff to them quite often but only in an ironic manner and never in public. Don't like the "N" word either it just sounds horrible and its pretty impossible to say in a nice or joking way, it just sounds angry.


Ditch Pig
Posted - 2010.09.02 00:40:00 - [264]
 

This has been going on for a thousand years and will go on for a thousand more. It's not going to change especially here. Life is way to short to worry about the other guys "self-loathing" or being offended by a comment. The funny thing is that you can't control anyones mind, their thoughts are their own. It's very easy to call people vile disgusting things in your head while shaking their hand and smiling.

I never had any problems with black people until I ended up in a city with a lot of them. It didn't take long to see the stereo typical behaviour come out. I learned to avoid them as much as possible.


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