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Brennivargur
Posted - 2010.08.11 01:48:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Daisuke Aoki
I wouldn't mind a more lightweight client, to be honest.

Or an official Linux one =/


Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes please a Linux one, no need for a lightweight client :D

Ressiv
Massive PVPness
Posted - 2010.08.11 01:49:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Culmen
Originally by: Snowmann
Originally by: Stick Cult

And you'll do what with it? do things via command line? oh, that sounds like fun! Rolling Eyes



Don't let common sense get in the way.



***********
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a space grue.

> activate medium beam laser I

Cistuvaert

You are in a Gallente rookie system. There are five belts here, and a lone station belonging to the Center for Advanced Studies floats in space.

> go belt

Cistuvaert - Belt

Various Veldspar, Scordite, and Plagioclase asteroids litter space here.
A noob is mining Veldspar in a Velator nearby.
A Navitas is mining Scordite into a jetcan nearby.
A Hulk is sucking down roids on the far side of the belt.

> flip can

You flip the jetcan. The Navitas releases a Hobgoblin I and begins firing on you!

> kill carebear

You unload everything you've got on the Navitas, wrecking for 308 damage!
The Navitas' drone fires on you, hitting for 4.2 damage!

> kill carebear

The Navitas' drone fires on you, but it glances off!
You shoot the Navitas, hitting for 127 damage!

The Navitas explodes in pretty lightshow! The pilot emerges from his wreck in a pod.

> say 'LOL NOOB!'

You say, "LOL NOOB!"
The carebear says, "OMG Pirate! How lame! I wasn't doing anything to you!"
The pod warps away in the direction of the station.

> loot wreck

You loot the wreck of the Navitas.

You recieve Civilian Mining Laser I
You recieve Civilian Mining Laser I
You recieve Civilian Shield Booster I
You recieve Expanded Cargohold I

Your neocom flashes. You have mail!

> read mali

I don't understand the word, "mali".

> read mail

You open your new mail.

"YOU ARE SO DEAD YOU LAME ASS PIRATE! I WORKED MY ASS OFF TO MINE ENOUGH TO GET THAT SIHP AND NOW I'M BACK IN A VELATOR! YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS!"

> say "lol"

You say, "lol"
***********


Laughing Now that has been a while Cool

mamolian
Cruoris Seraphim
Posted - 2010.08.11 08:24:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Culmen


***********
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a space grue.

> activate medium beam laser I

Cistuvaert

You are in a Gallente rookie system. There are five belts here, and a lone station belonging to the Center for Advanced Studies floats in space.

> go belt

Cistuvaert - Belt

Various Veldspar, Scordite, and Plagioclase asteroids litter space here.
A noob is mining Veldspar in a Velator nearby.
A Navitas is mining Scordite into a jetcan nearby.
A Hulk is sucking down roids on the far side of the belt.



LaughingLaughing +internets

Sma da'Marenhide
Posted - 2010.08.11 10:16:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Culmen
Originally by: Snowmann
Originally by: Stick Cult

And you'll do what with it? do things via command line? oh, that sounds like fun! Rolling Eyes



Don't let common sense get in the way.



***********
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a space grue.

> activate medium beam laser I

Cistuvaert

You are in a Gallente rookie system. There are five belts here, and a lone station belonging to the Center for Advanced Studies floats in space.

> go belt

Cistuvaert - Belt

Various Veldspar, Scordite, and Plagioclase asteroids litter space here.
A noob is mining Veldspar in a Velator nearby.
A Navitas is mining Scordite into a jetcan nearby.
A Hulk is sucking down roids on the far side of the belt.

> flip can

You flip the jetcan. The Navitas releases a Hobgoblin I and begins firing on you!

> kill carebear

You unload everything you've got on the Navitas, wrecking for 308 damage!
The Navitas' drone fires on you, hitting for 4.2 damage!

> kill carebear

The Navitas' drone fires on you, but it glances off!
You shoot the Navitas, hitting for 127 damage!

The Navitas explodes in pretty lightshow! The pilot emerges from his wreck in a pod.

> say 'LOL NOOB!'

You say, "LOL NOOB!"
The carebear says, "OMG Pirate! How lame! I wasn't doing anything to you!"
The pod warps away in the direction of the station.

> loot wreck

You loot the wreck of the Navitas.

You recieve Civilian Mining Laser I
You recieve Civilian Mining Laser I
You recieve Civilian Shield Booster I
You recieve Expanded Cargohold I

Your neocom flashes. You have mail!

> read mali

I don't understand the word, "mali".

> read mail

You open your new mail.

"YOU ARE SO DEAD YOU LAME ASS PIRATE! I WORKED MY ASS OFF TO MINE ENOUGH TO GET THAT SIHP AND NOW I'M BACK IN A VELATOR! YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS!"

> say "lol"

You say, "lol"
***********


As well as been funny good sir, i think you may have inadvertantly solved ccp`s lag problem here!

EVE as a MUD..
imagine the huge fleet battles, in text format!!Laughing

Also bring back old cynoSad

Phillip Macedon
Posted - 2010.08.11 12:08:00 - [35]
 

Mega-LOLs!

>xyzzy

Your current system is now lag-free.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2010.08.11 13:10:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Doublewhopper
This was the promise:

Quote:
With EVE Online: Apocrypha, we want to phase out our Classic client for the new Premium Lite version, an improved, lower-end client that will make sure players with lower-end machines can enjoy the same beautiful visuals as others.


Lately the game is getting slower and slower on some machines. The planetary interaction interface is unusable one some machines, since even moving the mouse takes ages.

Then there are the many graphical glitches like no portraits or logos being rendered on entry level cards while being listed as supported.

Meanwhile you can read some DEVs from CCP bragging in the forums about how great they can run 150 clients on one machine when they turn off the graphics.

Well give that power to your users to further turn down the graphics or revive the classic client to make it playable again. I will not start even start about server lag here, but meanwhile it should be obvious that this is also a major problem with the game.



WTF? There's only room for one Whopper in this Universe and it's the Super Whopper!

And don't play on a 086. If you're too cheap to spend 300 Euro's/USD to upgrade your PC because you will, otherwise, get whipped by the wife (or girlfriend) you need to get off the PC, grow some balls and take some man lessons because you're a sissy and should be in the kitchen making food.

I run out of memory after the fifth client, as 4GB really isn't enough for EVE. With four clients I don't see my fps dropping below 100 and that's with a two year old 4870 so all you children need to go beg your dominatrix for some money.

MadMuppet
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.08.11 13:19:00 - [37]
 

Culmen, thank you for the laugh!

All that is missing is the amber or green monochrome monitor.

-Mad

Celestine Santora
Posted - 2010.08.11 13:41:00 - [38]
 

Or better yet you could just get a computer that wasn't built in 1997 and not give another development burden to CCP.

I guarantee you could build a computer for $400 (the cheapest pretty much any desktop can be) that would run EVE on max settings.

Celestine Santora
Posted - 2010.08.11 13:44:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Daisuke Aoki
I wouldn't mind a more lightweight client, to be honest.

Or an official Linux one =/


Linux client isn't really needed either. It runs better in Wine than the official Linux client ever did.

Wine is really getting awesome. I don't have Windows installed on any machine I own and still play all the PC games I want.

Gertrude Himmelfarb
Posted - 2010.08.11 13:51:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Culmen
Some really great stuff


11/10

And you can have my broken timber.

Doublewhopper
Posted - 2010.08.11 20:53:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Doublewhopper on 11/08/2010 20:53:52
For me, money for a new set of laptops is not the issue here...
It is about loosing choice and versatility with each year.

-I would like to use the old machines as i used to. Granted, there will be no return of the classic client, but more options to turn down graphics would have almost the same effect. After all with third party programs you can achieve what CCP is unwilling to do...as deactivate shaders and stuff, so why not having it ingame to reduce graphics more?

-I would like to not loose features that i use all the time, like the widescreen option that was in EVE since the beginning. People used that for visibility and aesthetics. Similar issues with engine trails and cyno-effect.

-I would like to use arbitrary screen resolutions as it was once possible by editing the prefs.ini. This is still possible though, but the process is tedious.

-I would like CCP to focus on playbility by actually playing the game as the majority does. This will yield insight that there is no need for eve voice or eve gate since those services are normally covered by externally by Teamspeak and Forums. Disadvantages like loosing the connection lead to loss of communications render it useless.

-Also the core gameplay recently suffers due to lag, overbalancing, the new sov system and so on. But CCPs communication as in the devblogs make it seem that they lost their edge on which should be important and which not. This seems to be reflected by the recent server stastics, where the downward trend in online numbers seems to be accelerating.


Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.08.11 21:16:00 - [42]
 

Though I disagree on the clasic client coming back (more bugs etc for ccp to fix) my 4 year old laptor runs EVE on a max of around 15 fps with everything off, including station enviroment in station, just gets worse from there.

On the other side (for the people this says anything to) It runs a program like Pro-tools with multiple software plugins, some of which heavy duty just fine.

Wendi Watson
Organization Too Secret To Know
Posted - 2010.08.11 21:19:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Doublewhopper
Edited by: Doublewhopper on 11/08/2010 20:53:52
For me, money for a new set of laptops is not the issue here...
It is about loosing choice and versatility with each year.

-I would like to use the old machines as i used to. Granted, there will be no return of the classic client, but more options to turn down graphics would have almost the same effect. After all with third party programs you can achieve what CCP is unwilling to do...as deactivate shaders and stuff, so why not having it ingame to reduce graphics more?

-I would like to not loose features that i use all the time, like the widescreen option that was in EVE since the beginning. People used that for visibility and aesthetics. Similar issues with engine trails and cyno-effect.

-I would like to use arbitrary screen resolutions as it was once possible by editing the prefs.ini. This is still possible though, but the process is tedious.

-I would like CCP to focus on playbility by actually playing the game as the majority does. This will yield insight that there is no need for eve voice or eve gate since those services are normally covered by externally by Teamspeak and Forums. Disadvantages like loosing the connection lead to loss of communications render it useless.

-Also the core gameplay recently suffers due to lag, overbalancing, the new sov system and so on. But CCPs communication as in the devblogs make it seem that they lost their edge on which should be important and which not. This seems to be reflected by the recent server stastics, where the downward trend in online numbers seems to be accelerating.




http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/looselose.html

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.08.11 21:44:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Idicious Lightbane
Though I disagree on the clasic client coming back (more bugs etc for ccp to fix) my 4 year old laptor runs EVE on a max of around 15 fps with everything off, including station enviroment in station, just gets worse from there.

On the other side (for the people this says anything to) It runs a program like Pro-tools with multiple software plugins, some of which heavy duty just fine.


That boils down to the video chip in your laptop. You have one designed for a typical office laptop, not a gaming laptop.

You have plenty of horsepower in the processor to run EVE or your other productivity software, and if you had a better video chip you could easily get stellar fps playing EVE.

Thats why it pays to keep your hobbies in mind as well as your job when purchasing a laptop.


Jovialmadness
Posted - 2010.08.11 22:07:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Jovialmadness on 11/08/2010 22:09:36
Originally by: Doublewhopper
This was the promise:

Quote:
With EVE Online: Apocrypha, we want to phase out our Classic client for the new Premium Lite version, an improved, lower-end client that will make sure players with lower-end machines can enjoy the same beautiful visuals as others.


Lately the game is getting slower and slower on some machines. The planetary interaction interface is unusable one some machines, since even moving the mouse takes ages.

Then there are the many graphical glitches like no portraits or logos being rendered on entry level cards while being listed as supported.

Meanwhile you can read some DEVs from CCP bragging in the forums about how great they can run 150 clients on one machine when they turn off the graphics.

Well give that power to your users to further turn down the graphics or revive the classic client to make it playable again. I will not start even start about server lag here, but meanwhile it should be obvious that this is also a major problem with the game.




Man i just dont know, i mean i like whoppers n' all but its a toss up between Big Mac's and whoppers and definately a mood thing. Whoppers have that excellent charcoal flavor in the meat but who can deny that sexa sauce in the big mac??? Hell i might just go get both after work and pig the bleep out

Im glad we had this talk now lets get back to talking about your concerns over market pricing in Rens.

Edit: tried to get back on topic but failed miserably.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.08.11 22:29:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Celestine Santora
Originally by: Daisuke Aoki
I wouldn't mind a more lightweight client, to be honest.

Or an official Linux one =/


Linux client isn't really needed either. It runs better in Wine than the official Linux client ever did.

Wine is really getting awesome. I don't have Windows installed on any machine I own and still play all the PC games I want.


Confirming I've been clean and off windows for a year.

Seriously Ubuntu isn't even as good as Windows 7 anymore. Its not possible to make a stable client for an unstable OS, so just leave it to wine. I can play dualscreen 2 clients just fine. It would be easier for the ubuntu users to switch.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2010.08.12 11:47:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Super Whopper on 12/08/2010 11:54:20
Originally by: Jovialmadness
Man i just dont know, i mean i like whoppers n' all but its a toss up between Big Mac's and whoppers and definately a mood thing. Whoppers have that excellent charcoal flavor in the meat but who can deny that sexa sauce in the big mac??? Hell i might just go get both after work and pig the bleep out

Im glad we had this talk now lets get back to talking about your concerns over market pricing in Rens.

Edit: tried to get back on topic but failed miserably.


God was eating a Whopper when he created the Big Bang.

Quetazal
Gallente
Clann Fian
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2010.08.12 12:18:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Zverofaust
Quote:
Any machine that's not 10 years old will run the game absolutely fine.


My computer is far newer then that yet over the past 6-8 months I've seen a quite horrendous drop in performance with the client. 8 months ago I could run 3 clients in a large fleet fight on a busy node just fine; now I can't run a single client in a small fleet fight without getting 2 FPS and my computer wanting to kill itself. And it's gotten a hell of a lot worse in Tyrannis.


Have you tried resetting the EvE cache (as its not vgood at garbage collection)

Tigobitty
Caldari
Australian Mining and industry Corp
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2010.08.12 12:48:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Culmen





***********
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a space grue.

> activate medium beam laser I

Cistuvaert

You are in a Gallente rookie system. There are five belts here, and a lone station belonging to the Center for Advanced Studies floats in space.

> go belt

|
~
|

> say "lol"

You say, "lol"
***********



Brilliant, Culmen

Very Happy



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