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Takseen
Posted - 2010.08.03 15:29:00 - [61]
 

Edited by: Takseen on 03/08/2010 15:29:47
Edited by: Takseen on 03/08/2010 15:29:38


have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?

No, although I'll try and make it to todays one(August 3rd)

what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)

NPC corp highsec carebear.

do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?

Never.


were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?

-sisi patching was too hard, gave up(partly a factor due to the perception, but it was easy enough)
-generally didnt care(I assumed the big 0.0 alliances would muster enough players on their own for the tests since it affects them more)
-scheduled at a bad time( I can't normally make it to the weekday evening tests anyway)



would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?
would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?
would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?

None of these would really help. A small skillpoint reward would be the best motivator, really.

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?

Assuming this means CCP monitoring "live" fights, its probably the best way to catch whatever it is that causes the lag.

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?

Yes, although I'm much less likely to.





Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2010.08.03 15:44:00 - [62]
 

have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?
No
what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)
Lowsec FW
do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?
No

were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
-didn't believe the test would accomplish anything - Lag is regularly experienced in systems with as little as one person in them. IMO, large numbers of players exacerbate the problem but ignore the real source of lag
-sisi patching was too hard, gave up - Sisi patching is ok for technically competent players but the unreliable manual setting up of a Sisi client mostly points to CCP's whole attitude about things: They don't care about the details.
-generally didnt care - I do care, but see above
-wasn't aware of it - Was too busy shaking my head
-scheduled at a bad time - Time was fine
-previous tests were poorly conducted so i no longer participated(please specify) - No personal experience but have heard too my stories of CCP making yet another mess of things
-other please specify - CCP have been at this for 6 months now, with almost nothing to show for it. I seriously doubt that another 6 months of flogging thedead horse will achieve anything.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps? - No

would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)? - Mazziliu, you really need to work on your communication skills. I have no idea what that means, and I'm pretty sure that others have the same problem.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi? - No

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)? - CCP need to have a few developers with modified monitoring clients and with server monitoring code injected spend a lot of time in nullsec, roaming and doing fleet fights so that they can experience the problems while being able to simultaneously track them. CCP would need to clearly mark themselves as such and square this with the players they fight/help by reimbursing losses to which they contributed. Sisi is not TQ and is IMO pretty much worthless as a testing ground.

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups? - I seriously doubt that CCP refusing to compensate their own customers for their own mistakes would result in CCP retaining many of those customers.

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ? - No, unless CCP could explain to me how they manage to see Sisi as an adequate stand in for TQ.

is there anything major that this survey has missed that you think could greatly help the testing effort? - The testing and monitoring needs to be done on TQ, and CCP need to reimburse the players. No question about it. CCP needs to get a number of alliances to agree on place, then get fleets into the area and lock down all access to it and reimburse all losses for the duration of the test. They also need to test almost empty systems. Personally, I don't see CCP doing any of this as they are too convinced of their own capabilities and will continue to dribble away customers until they go bankrupt in a couple of years.

Wenoc
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.08.03 15:53:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Wenoc on 03/08/2010 15:53:45
have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?
No: I give them money for doing their job. If they give me free sub time to do theirs, then sure.

what role do you play in eve?
Alliance, 0.0

do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?
Yes

were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
Other: I have better things to do with my time than running in circles for ccp.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?
Yes.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?
Yes, but how can a tq tournament require sisi?

would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?
No. Wouldn't make much of a difference.

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?
Yes. Probably.

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?
Tough question. Either they test or they don't. I don't care how they do it as long as it's done with consent.


would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?
No. Probably not. Paying people so I can do their job.. I have better things to do.


is there anything major that this survey has missed that you think could greatly help the testing effort?
1 week free playtime for being (active!) in the testing fleet from start to stop. A quick awk script should parse that from the logs easily. Actually my time in real life is worth a _lot_ more than that, but it would probably be sufficient bait.

Declin Mactire
Caldari
QQ Continuum
Posted - 2010.08.03 16:55:00 - [64]
 

have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?

Yes, a few times

what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)

part of a smaller corp that has done all sort of different things, low sec, 0.0 high sec.

do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?

No, about the biggest I've been in was a 200 person or so fight.

were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
-didn't believe the test would accomplish anything
-sisi patching was too hard, gave up
-generally didnt care
-wasn't aware of it
-scheduled at a bad time
-previous tests were poorly conducted so i no longer participated(please specify)
-other please specify

Yes, I miss a lot of opportunities to participate because the tests are scheduled on weekdays before I get out of work.


would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?

Yes, it would be fun to test out a character with max skills or supercaps or faction ships every once in a while on sisi.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?

Yeah maybe. It would depend on the type of event or tournament.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?

Maybe.

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?

Like, put new code in to tq just before a giant fleet fight? Yeah maybe, but I think this would be tough to do and to get everyone to agree to.

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?

I don't know, I just like to fight, so it doesn't bother me much.

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?

Yeah, I've done it before with no reward. I really would like to see the game improved.

is there anything major that this survey has missed that you think could greatly help the testing effort?

Not really.

Richard Christy
Posted - 2010.08.03 16:57:00 - [65]
 

Them's a buncha words. Some appear to have had the bold treatment. Nice work.

Facepalm
Amarr
Battlestars
Posted - 2010.08.03 17:49:00 - [66]
 

Not gonna write all that out but I haven't participated because I don't feel like beta testing a real release that I pay real money to work properly. The lag should've been fixed before it was released, and considering how gamebreaking it is, the patch(es) should've been rolled back (minus supercap changes) when the bug was discovered.

Maybe if my alliance had more of a push towards participation I'd consider putting more of an effort in, but I'd still rather do stuff in the real game with my real time.

Frug
Omega Wing
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2010.08.03 18:05:00 - [67]
 

Mazz is just using this for her nefarious datamining purposes. Oh well.

have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?

Nope.

what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)
Small highsec pvp alliance.

do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?
Nope.

were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
-didn't believe the test would accomplish anything
-generally didnt care
-wasn't aware of it

would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?
Of course.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?
Maybe.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?
Maybe. I wonder what VS's fcing is like... oh wait you said he has to be well liked. Scratch that. Nah I don't care about chribba's FC skills.
Oh unless you mean someone famous like Patrick Stewart, in which case hell yes.

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?
I have no idea. Probably not, since it's not a real solution.

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?
Dunno.

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?
It doesn't need to be isk... But in the end probably only once or twice out of curiosity.

is there anything major that this survey has missed that you think could greatly help the testing effort?
Pictures of your boobs. Otherwise, a t-rex riding a bicycle.

Ban Doga
Posted - 2010.08.03 18:19:00 - [68]
 

have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?
Yes

what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)
Smallcorp Highsec

do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?
No

were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
-didn't believe the test would accomplish anything
Yes

-sisi patching was too hard, gave up
No

-generally didnt care
No

-wasn't aware of it
No

-scheduled at a bad time
Yes

-previous tests were poorly conducted so i no longer participated (please specify)
No (see also "other")

-other please specify
No tangible results since I started to join those tests in February

would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?
No (would have been different 2 months ago)

would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?
No

would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?
Maybe.

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?
I think that's a great idea. I'd consent.

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?
No idea.

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?
Yes, I already did.

is there anything major that this survey has missed that you think could greatly help the testing effort?
Yes, "What would it take to make you participate?" and my answer to that would be
"A clear statement about the problem that is under investigation, an idea about what change is being used (this would have to be rather abstract, I'm not looking for confidential technical information), a thorough follow up (average FPS and a "well a bit worse than last time" is something I can see first-hand in my own client; I'm talking about expected result, actual result, reasons for difference), a decision if that change will be kept / reverted / modified and when (if at all) it will hit TQ"

I'm tired of this vague, completely ambiguous, totally open-ended "we're working on it, it will change soon".

mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.08.03 18:22:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Frug
Mazz is just using this for her nefarious datamining purposes. Oh well.



yep! I'm emptying your bank account as i type.

also i am compiling a list of the majority of public concerns(as well as the most interesting ones raised by people who i know are qualified in technical things) that have been raised both here and on the PL forums where i posted the same survey. i'll be posting it in the csm discussions with ccp as well as posting a copy in the public thread here too. it should be done in a week or so it really depends on how much finals kick my ass.

I'll also post the PL response from our alliance forums over here in the interest of letting people see where i get my conclusions from.

Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
Posted - 2010.08.03 18:37:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: mazzilliu
have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?

Yes. Once. It was fail. Shortly after I showed up, CCP spawned a Titan and instapopped everybody on the grid not in a heavily-plated battleship, including me.

Originally by: mazzilliu
what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)


Highsec on this character. 0.0 resident on character currently getting the most playtime.

Originally by: mazzilliu
do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?

Yes. But for me, "big" means twenty or thirty ships on a side. Triple digit fleets are something I have experienced, but only rarely.

Originally by: mazzilliu

were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
-didn't believe the test would accomplish anything

No.

Originally by: mazzilliu
-sisi patching was too hard, gave up

Yes. Sort of. About half the time I've tried to patch Sisi over the years, it's failed, not worked, or messed up my main install somehow. So I'm reluctant to go there, generally prefer not to mess with it. A mass test is not a good enough reason.

Originally by: mazzilliu
-generally didnt care

No. I care.
Originally by: mazzilliu
-wasn't aware of it

No. I see the announcements, but since I don't consider mass tests worth patching setting up a Sisi client for, I don't take note of them.

Originally by: mazzilliu
-scheduled at a bad time

Sometimes. Usually not, though -- the weekend times are generally OK.

Originally by: mazzilliu
-previous tests were poorly conducted so i no longer participated(please specify)

See above. The one I attended (a long long LONG time ago) was to do with lag and POS mechanics. It involved two fleets, but I didn't see much of it because CCP spawned a Titan and wiped the grid of anybody who wasn't in a heavily tanked battleship. This appears to have been done for lulz after they got whatever data they came for, but I'm not certain. It annoyed me because it was before the ship fitting tool and so it was 20 minutes of wasted ship-fitting time that I had done to help them with tests.


Originally by: mazzilliu
-other please specify

I don't really believe that all the data in the world will do them any good. During the dev cycle for new features, when they put bugs up on Sisi and these are heavily reported, they often just sail right through into production, and then CCP reacts with surprise. "That's not working? Oh really? You should bug report that?" When there's a forty-page thread containing 22 bug report numbers in the Test Server Feedback section. CCP doesn't tranlate data about problems into problem solving.

Originally by: mazzilliu
would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?

Nah.
Originally by: mazzilliu
would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that...

Nah, tournaments are meh.

Originally by: mazzilliu

would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?

No more likely to.

Originally by: mazzilliu

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight...

I don't see that as practical. But I don't mind if they do.

Originally by: mazzilliu

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?

I don't want rewards. I want to know that (1) setting up Sisi won't bork my main clients and settings, 100% guaranteed, (2) CCP won't be wasting my time during the mass test, and (3), CCP will actually be doing something useful with the data. Right now, they don't have my trust sufficiently on any of those three points.

Jovialmadness
Posted - 2010.08.03 18:39:00 - [71]
 

have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?

No



what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/
bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)



Alliance 0.0




do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet
fights?


Yes when i can


were any of these factors the reason you have
been prevented in participating in a mass test
on sisi?


No



-didn't believe the test would accomplish
anything

Yes, coding is the prob.


-sisi patching was too hard, gave up -generally didnt care
-wasn't aware of it
-scheduled at a bad time
-previous tests were poorly conducted so i no
longer participated(please specify)


No to all dat above.


-other please specify would you participate in a sisi mass test if they
gave you perks you would never get on TQ like
max skillpoints, or supercaps?


Nope. I have all i need on tranq


would you participate in a sisi mass test if
there was a TQ tournament going on that
required it(specifically, the sort of player-run
sort of events that don't involve creation of
isk)?


No


would you participate in a sisi mass test if
someone really famous and well liked
commanded the fleet on sisi?


No, who cares.



if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight
but only if both parties consented, and
everyone knew in advance that there would be
no reimbursement just like usual, would you
ever consent to participating in the test
(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea
****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good
idea)?



Probably a bad idea




what sort of situations would be excluded from
ever being tested if CCP refused to give
reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ
code injection ****ups?


My head is hurting now.



would you ever participate in any sort of sisi
mass testing if there was no immediate and
direct isk reward on TQ?


No




is there anything major that this survey has
missed that you think could greatly help the
testing effort?


You didnt put "the end" at the end.

Emma Royd
Caldari
Maddled Gommerils
Posted - 2010.08.03 19:33:00 - [72]
 

Edited by: Emma Royd on 03/08/2010 19:45:04
have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?
No - I tried once and it didn't happen

what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)
Self run empire corp

do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?
No

were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
-didn't believe the test would accomplish anything
No

-sisi patching was too hard, gave up
Patching sisi is very hit and miss, unless you keep very up to date with the versions more often than not it's often easier to copy your tq directory and do the tq to sisi patch

-generally didnt care
No

-wasn't aware of it
No - That is one good thing CCP are good at communicating

-scheduled at a bad time
Thursday at 20:00 is a bad time for a lot of UK players, it's 21:00 BST and if you start work fairly early then it is too late to start playing. I generally start work at 07:00 so I'm getting up at 05:00, bed time is 22:00 (yeah I know, but I needs my beauty sleep). Times should be rotated to try and get people from different time zones.

-previous tests were poorly conducted so i no longer participated(please specify)
Sort of - I can't remember the specific test event but I'd got myself geared up for it, assembled ships in fd, waited around for a while passed the start time, and all we got was it's going to be a bit late or something like that, left at t+30m as it was too late to start messing around then.

-other please specify
Normally bad timing or lack of current character on the test server, how long does it take to mirror the server? can't it be done nearer the test time?

would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?
Yes - although max skillpoints is a grey area, I've managed to log in once on one of these events and it was a farce, granted it was when tq was down for something big so everyone was trying to get on for the god skills.
Supercaps would maybe be interesting, but I fear that because they can't fly them on tq then you will get the idiots going silly with them.
One thing that has been suggested on the forums is now the skill point allocation system is running, allocate a goodly number of skill points to the characters on sisi so people can play around a bit more, or even bring their character up to date with the one on TQ, I've got a tq character that can now fly a dread, but I've got no idea if the same character can fly one on sisi.


would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?
No - wouldn't have any influence

would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?
Ooh you mean like Ozzy Osbourne? Razz - No - wouldn't have any influence

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?
I've got no idea what you mean, if you mean that they 'play around' with the tq server in fleet fights etc, then No - there is probably a good chance that something bit would screw up

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?
Don't really know what you mean by code injection

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?
There isn't at the moment, do you mean there is a direct isk reward on tq? or am I having a blonde moment Embarassed



Emma Royd
Caldari
Maddled Gommerils
Posted - 2010.08.03 19:34:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: Emma Royd on 03/08/2010 19:42:38
carrying on from previous post.

I would like ccp to be open and up front with the paying public. There is a great deal of anger towards you guys at the moment, and no real reply from you, many questions have been asked and nothing being said.
I've not really followed the 18 Month saga but I've picked up on the fact that there are no real plans to fix the issues that are currently here. I appreciate that you have teams of devs focussing on other areas such as Dust and Incarna, and they will have specialities, a graphics designer isn't a code monkey and vice-versa, but it seems that eve is on the brink of collapse, and nothing really seems to happen. I'm not talking about today's tq downtime, but there are problems flagged up on the forums and nothing seems to happen about them. Maybe if CCP made decent announcements that they are working on certain problems, or even explaining why they can't just fix them immediately, would go a small way to help the situation.
I'd be great if EVE2 was written with new code and databases that are up to the job, but the feasibility of this is extremely unlikely Crying or Very sad

NatteFrost85
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.08.03 21:02:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: NatteFrost85 on 03/08/2010 21:07:29
have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?
No
what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)
Highsec
do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?
No

were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
-other please specify

not inntested in making a cop of the game, then try and run the patch that generaly dont work well

would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?
Yes

would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?
No

would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?
No

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?

Question

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?
Dunno

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?
Yes

is there anything major that this survey has missed that you think could greatly help the testing effort?
Not that i know of

Draco Carollis
Amarr
The Dead Canary Mining Corporation
Talos Coalition
Posted - 2010.08.03 23:24:00 - [75]
 

have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?
Yes - two test before dominion came out, and two since

what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)
small mining corp in 0.0 alliance, but work in hisec

do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?
No

were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
-scheduled at a bad time (I'm AU timezone, so 18.00 is about 4am for me)

would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?
the skillpoints would be nice, but participating in the testing should be somthing that all players should do to make thier gameplay better - we're only helping ourselves!

would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?
Yes

would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?
Would not affect my decision in any way

if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?
Yes - its only pixels, and we would have consented to it.

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?
Can't comment

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?
Yes

is there anything major that this survey has missed that you think could greatly help the testing effort?
CCP needs to stress that the tests only help the players. Sure, its a few hours out of thier lives, but the information CCP gains from the tests aids the game in the long run, and thus everyone.

Or at least, that's the theory.

theSONARnet
Gallente
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.08.04 00:26:00 - [76]
 

have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?
jep


were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
got the announcement through RSS, but totally forgot about it later on.
Maybe a second RSS feed on the testing day would help

Regarding the rest: no additional motivation needed for joining the mass testing

Richard Christy
Posted - 2010.08.04 11:19:00 - [77]
 

Where's the voting part?

Meldgaard
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.08.04 14:42:00 - [78]
 

have you ever participated in a sisi mass test?

No. Never got past the queue to log in to sisi

what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)

Small sov holding corp

do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights?

Fights big enogh to lag: yes, big fleet fights: No


were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?
-didn't believe the test would accomplish anything


No

-sisi patching was too hard, gave up

No

-generally didnt care

No

-wasn't aware of it

Maybe


-scheduled at a bad time

No

-previous tests were poorly conducted so i no longer participated(please specify)

N/A

-other please specify

The only time i have tryed to help out in a mass test, i was in the login queue for a long time and ended up giving up on logging in to sisi to help.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?

It will not change if i will participate in a mass fight. It was fun to play around with supercap last time, but that will be better for a week or so if ccp vant to test something with caps.

would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?

I dont know what you are asking about


would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?

I can only think of one FC that i will go out of my way to come fly under and he is not playing eve any more.


if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?

Maybe, but most likely in a bomber to bomb the **** out of it ;) But if you mean allowing ccp to **** the code up in a real fleet fight: No

what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?

All but fights in throw away ships

would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?

Doing work hours? no but in the weekend yes

is there anything major that this survey has missed that you think could greatly help the testing effort?

Not that i can think off

AccesiViale
The Artful Dodgers
Posted - 2010.08.04 15:38:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Richard Christy
Where's the voting part?


It seems in this case "poll" meant "Q and A"

Jason1138
Posted - 2010.08.04 15:47:00 - [80]
 


have you ever participated in a sisi mass test? No


what role do you play in eve? (smallcorp/bigcorp/alliance highsec/lowsec/0.0 resident)

Ceo of a small corp at the moment. some high sec, some low sec, a little bit of null roaming


do you regularly participate in big 0.0 fleet fights? no




were any of these factors the reason you have been prevented in participating in a mass test on sisi?

-didn't believe the test would accomplish anything yes

-sisi patching was too hard, gave up no

-generally didnt care no


-wasn't aware of it once, yes


-scheduled at a bad time almost always, yes. the coming one is scheduled during my work hours


-previous tests were poorly conducted so i no longer participated(please specify) no


-other please specify a big factor in my unwillingness to use sisi is how utterly ****ed it always is. right now you can't use the overview, can't link anything, can't really use chat, the NPC text randomly shrinks down to nothing in some windows, etc

a few weeks ago you couldn't right click anything. the place is always broken, how they will make it work for a test is beyond me



would you participate in a sisi mass test if they gave you perks you would never get on TQ like max skillpoints, or supercaps?

that would be nice, obviously but the main thing they could do to get me to participate is schedule it at a time that i could attend easily and make it so its not a total nightmare to log onto that server


would you participate in a sisi mass test if there was a TQ tournament going on that required it(specifically, the sort of player-run sort of events that don't involve creation of isk)?

not in the current state of the sisi server/client, no. if fixed, sure


would you participate in a sisi mass test if someone really famous and well liked commanded the fleet on sisi?

lol no



if they used code injection on TQ in a fleet fight but only if both parties consented, and everyone knew in advance that there would be no reimbursement just like usual, would you ever consent to participating in the test(although this question is probably moot unless you're an FC, I'd also like to know if this idea ****es you off a lot or if you think it's a good idea)?


that would be fine with me. if they ever want to have some huge fleet fight here and announce it ahead of time, i'd be glad to take a frig or a cruiser over there to help test. if they'd just warp everyone to the location so i don't have to jump, i'd be about 99% sure to do it


what sort of situations would be excluded from ever being tested if CCP refused to give reimbursement for deaths incurred during TQ code injection ****ups?

no idea. i suppose i would not be willing to risk anything very nice, or risk POS's or anything like that if there's no reinbursement


would you ever participate in any sort of sisi mass testing if there was no immediate and direct isk reward on TQ?

sure


is there anything major that this survey has missed that you think could greatly help the testing effort?

i think the #1 thing CCP needs to fix about Sisi is the download and install process. that needs to be made easier and they need to schedule regular tests on weekends so people can participate, and especially they need to fix the sisi client so that people don't literally laugh out loud at the thought of doing anything over there

Metal Dude
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.08.04 15:52:00 - [81]
 

Here's a simple solution for test participation PL CSM. Order all your NAPed pets to attend or threaten them with a true reset and the problem is solved. You should get 5K participants at least.


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