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Gunns AbeLazin
Posted - 2010.07.31 16:07:00 - [1]
 

I stopped playing about a year ago, and just decided to do the 5-day free thing. Problem is, my old corp moved, dropped me, and now I'm simply neutral to all of the people in 0.0. I didn't play Eve much, and I'm not sure what exactly to do about getting my things out of Providence. I have a few BS, a Cerb, and a few inties as well as some other ships, and I really want to recover all of my things.

Do you normally talk to alliances who hold the territory and see if you can get a free pass? Agony are the ones who control the space I need to get through. How do you go about doing something like this?

Vjorn Angannon
Fleet Escort Services
Posted - 2010.07.31 16:41:00 - [2]
 

*Disclaimer* I am not affiliated with, nor am I a spokesman for, Agony Unleashed.

With that said, Agony is a corp of professional pvper's, as well as a group of helpful people. My suggestion is that you contact a director prior to undocking and see if you can't work something out with them.

There are several ways to contact them:

1) go to their website and register as a new member. Then either make a post under general chat, or identify a couple directors and send them a private message outlining your predicament.

2) you can also join their public channel in game AU_PVP_UNIVERSITY and ask to speak with a director.

Be aware that it may take a little bit of time to get a response due to all the fights they get in to Laughing

Welcome back to EVE and good luck getting your stuff out.

Vj

Xikorita
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.07.31 17:50:00 - [3]
 

If it is the H6 station you can dock and undock anytime. It is a free-port

Valoric Liao
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.07.31 17:52:00 - [4]
 

IF it doesn't look like anyone's able to help you, put the ships on market and JC out.

Best advice, though, because this comes up all the time, is never to stop playing while all your stuff is 0.0. Move it out first.

Gunns AbeLazin
Posted - 2010.08.01 00:12:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Gunns AbeLazin on 01/08/2010 00:13:53
It seems obvious now. It seems that Agony, while friendly, will not negotiate transport through their space. Maybe I'll try a few late-night runs to get out some things, and try to sell everything else.

I understand that I can dock-undock in H6, and I do appreciate your informing me of that, but I'm more concerned about your drag bubbles on the gates. I figured that Agony stood to gain some ISK from this, as well as help out a poor returning Eve soul recover at least some of his stuff.

Honestly, while I love Eve, sometimes it seems that 0.0 is simply a cruel place Sad

Sjugar
Posted - 2010.08.01 05:06:00 - [6]
 

Sell your stuff in 0.0 for prices well above Jita, get out of providence to Jita. With the ISK from that buy more ships then you had before.

Viva Che
Posted - 2010.08.01 16:36:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Sjugar
Sell your stuff in 0.0 for prices well above Jita, get out of providence to Jita. With the ISK from that buy more ships then you had before.


This. You'll get more isk for your stuff where it is.

Then just hop out when you can (assuming you don't have a JC, which is absurd if true) and re-organize yourself in empire.

Devil tiger
Posted - 2010.08.01 17:58:00 - [8]
 

Just sell it.

There's no point in trying to get your 'junk' out from provi without blockade runner.

If you're clever/stupid enough to make a contract for safe passage with the alliance holding your stuff in it's station
it's a 10/90 chance they actually keep it/break it.

XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
Posted - 2010.08.01 18:10:00 - [9]
 

Join Agony?

Jeneroux
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.02 02:58:00 - [10]
 

Wormhole exit perhaps?

Darcon Kylote
Posted - 2010.08.02 03:43:00 - [11]
 

I've never understood why people agonize over stuff "trapped" in stations. Just fly there in something cloaky, put it all on the market/contracts, and turn a healthy profit. It may take a few days/weeks, but it'll move. If you want to speed it up, hang out in system for a couple days and make deals with the locals. Everyone loves a bargain.

DaDutchDude
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.08.03 11:35:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: DaDutchDude on 03/08/2010 11:36:37
Heya Gunns, welcome back to EVE. Providence has changed a lot in recent times as you've experienced, and as in life, you'll have to deal with changes.

Although we at Agony are friendly chaps, we all basically play this game to see ships explode. Giving free passage for a few Isk is just not what we're after. It's not meant to be cruel, but we just have conflicting interests. Trying to join Agony is also not really an option, since we're looking for PVPers, so if you don't enjoy the challenge of getting out alive or fighting to the death trying, then we won't accept your application.

That leaves 3 basic options:
1) Sell your stuff on the market locally. This is the safest and most hassle-free option. Don't price too much over Jita prices and perhaps advertise some stuff that you put on contract in local to draw some attention to it, and it'll sell soon enough. Don't overprice it though: Agony has a pretty good high sec supply line, so we're not starved for ships and supplies and have a healthy local market.

2) Put up courier contracts. I'd only try to transport stuff that would be hard to sell locally, but often enough, we'll have jump freighters or carriers going back to high sec with room in the cargo hold. Again, advertise it in local so people pick up on it and put a fair reward and collateral on it, and it'll probably get picked up in a week or two.

3) If you like some excitement, fly it out yourself. This is the most dangerous option, but can be fun as well. We rarely camp the station undock, but once undocked, we (and others) will take an interest. Sometimes getting out of a sticky situation is the most fun you can have though, and if you don't make it, remember it's just Internet space pixels.

Good luck!

YouMoWeak
Posted - 2010.08.03 17:38:00 - [13]
 

You could leave your stuff there and jump clone out. At some future date, perhaps in the middle of a struggle over that system, you can jump back, undock, and cause some trouble. A little 5th column action. It would be awesome if you had a cyno in there. Maybe you can buy one if its on the station market. Jump back, undock, cyno in a fleet. Fun fun fun. If they won't be nice, then you should definitely return the favor.

General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.08.03 19:38:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: DaDutchDude
Edited by: DaDutchDude on 03/08/2010 11:36:37
Heya Gunns, welcome back to EVE. Providence has changed a lot in recent times as you've experienced, and as in life, you'll have to deal with changes.

Although we at Agony are friendly chaps, we all basically play this game to see ships explode. Giving free passage for a few Isk is just not what we're after. It's not meant to be cruel, but we just have conflicting interests. Trying to join Agony is also not really an option, since we're looking for PVPers, so if you don't enjoy the challenge of getting out alive or fighting to the death trying, then we won't accept your application.

That leaves 3 basic options:
1) Sell your stuff on the market locally. This is the safest and most hassle-free option. Don't price too much over Jita prices and perhaps advertise some stuff that you put on contract in local to draw some attention to it, and it'll sell soon enough. Don't overprice it though: Agony has a pretty good high sec supply line, so we're not starved for ships and supplies and have a healthy local market.

2) Put up courier contracts. I'd only try to transport stuff that would be hard to sell locally, but often enough, we'll have jump freighters or carriers going back to high sec with room in the cargo hold. Again, advertise it in local so people pick up on it and put a fair reward and collateral on it, and it'll probably get picked up in a week or two.

3) If you like some excitement, fly it out yourself. This is the most dangerous option, but can be fun as well. We rarely camp the station undock, but once undocked, we (and others) will take an interest. Sometimes getting out of a sticky situation is the most fun you can have though, and if you don't make it, remember it's just Internet space pixels.

Good luck!



TL;DR
FIRE SELL AND GTFO! Laughing

Dirk Culliford
H A V O C
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.08.03 23:27:00 - [15]
 

Yo this is near me.

I'll buy stuff from you at 60% of Jita price.



Gunns AbeLazin
Posted - 2010.08.04 16:25:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: DaDutchDude
Edited by: DaDutchDude on 03/08/2010 11:36:37
Heya Gunns, welcome back to EVE. Providence has changed a lot in recent times as you've experienced, and as in life, you'll have to deal with changes.

Although we at Agony are friendly chaps, we all basically play this game to see ships explode. Giving free passage for a few Isk is just not what we're after. It's not meant to be cruel, but we just have conflicting interests. Trying to join Agony is also not really an option, since we're looking for PVPers, so if you don't enjoy the challenge of getting out alive or fighting to the death trying, then we won't accept your application.

That leaves 3 basic options:
1) Sell your stuff on the market locally. This is the safest and most hassle-free option. Don't price too much over Jita prices and perhaps advertise some stuff that you put on contract in local to draw some attention to it, and it'll sell soon enough. Don't overprice it though: Agony has a pretty good high sec supply line, so we're not starved for ships and supplies and have a healthy local market.

2) Put up courier contracts. I'd only try to transport stuff that would be hard to sell locally, but often enough, we'll have jump freighters or carriers going back to high sec with room in the cargo hold. Again, advertise it in local so people pick up on it and put a fair reward and collateral on it, and it'll probably get picked up in a week or two.

3) If you like some excitement, fly it out yourself. This is the most dangerous option, but can be fun as well. We rarely camp the station undock, but once undocked, we (and others) will take an interest. Sometimes getting out of a sticky situation is the most fun you can have though, and if you don't make it, remember it's just Internet space pixels.

Good luck!


Thank you for your response. To this I would only respond by saying:
1) I understand that you guys love to shoot people. I'm not really angry that you don't do safe passage, and that's fine.
2) However, one of the stated Agony philosophies (which you repeat on your forums) is that you don't engage in fights that don't make sense. Suggesting that I don't really love PVP because I don't want to lead my ships to near-certain death is frankly a contradiction to your own philosophy. I did try to fly out two of my ships, and both were popped.

Time to train up trade skills.

Spruillo
Gallente
Spruillo Corp
Posted - 2010.08.04 17:45:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Spruillo on 04/08/2010 17:46:25
Originally by: Jeneroux
Wormhole exit perhaps?


This. With a little effort and caution you can probe your way cross a couple wh's to losec somewhere if your real lucky hisec even.

assuming you bm'd along the way go back for your stuff and GTFO
Park your stuff in losec station and scout the route to hisec

Serend
Gallente
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.08.06 19:08:00 - [18]
 

Welcome back to Eve, Gunns! Your dilemma illustrates the best part of Eve, imho, which is that damn few things here are as simple and easy as we'd like them to be. And getting around all these obstacles makes for a more interesting experience (if hardly convenient).

Agony won't give you a pass? Fine. Now you're facing something more interesting than a couple of days of boring trips back and forth. Selling your stuff would be quick and easy...I'd vote for the idea of scouting out a WH route back to empire space.

Have fun, and don't overlook the fun in solving your current situation.

Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
Halinallen veroparatiisi
Inglorious Carebears
Posted - 2010.08.07 08:43:00 - [19]
 

I had the same thing (also returning), but I decided that why move my stuff. When I can just as well loose it there :)


 

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