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ceaon
Posted - 2010.07.25 21:46:00 - [1]
 

look how awesome facebook is and other stuff
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3079242748023143842
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2219573359400519690


time to troll this ppl no ?
i wonder is u put google dns 8888 and then use http://www.majestic12.co.uk/ to troll them

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2010.07.25 23:33:00 - [2]
 

I don't understand how this is supposed to scare me. There's absolutely nothing new in that entire video that I didn't know about these companies and their practices already.

This is a video of a guy who just realized how the internet works and is outraged because he's an old fart who can't change with the times.

Xrak
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.07.26 02:46:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Xrak on 26/07/2010 04:39:11
Originally by: Astenion
I don't understand how this is supposed to scare me. There's absolutely nothing new in that entire video that I didn't know about these companies and their practices already.

This is a video of a guy who just realized how the internet works and is outraged because he's an old fart who can't change with the times.


You clearly haven't watched the video. The guy has been doing the talk for 10 years it isn't new news to him at all. He isn't outraged, perhaps surprised at the amount of data that people willingly self contribute, but not outraged. The video isn't supposed to scare you either, it is trying to make you think.


Arvald
Caldari
Drunken Space Irish
Posted - 2010.07.26 02:57:00 - [4]
 

thank you captain obvious for pointing out **** we already know

Lia'Vael
Caldari
Migrant Fleet
Posted - 2010.07.26 03:34:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Xrak
... isn't not ...


I saw what you did thar

Xrak
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.07.26 04:40:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Lia'Vael
Originally by: Xrak
... isn't not ...


I saw what you did thar


Typo, don't read into it.

ceaon
Posted - 2010.07.26 13:39:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Arvald
thank you captain obvious for pointing out **** we already know

why u post on plural ? do you assume all ppl know this ?

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2010.07.26 14:38:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Arvald
thank you captain obvious for pointing out **** we already know


This.

"He's only trying to make you think"...what? I'll say it again, this is a guy who can't come to grips with modern technology and feels it is his duty to tell the world what we already know. What is lost on him is the very fact that we can ascertain just as much information on other people as he can...THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT IT. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE INTERNET.

If someone puts really personal information on the internet, that person is a moron and they are an exception, not the rule.

I also love how he feels it's some dramatic discovery that Amazon.com keeps records of your purchases.


Epicbeardman
Posted - 2010.07.26 14:52:00 - [9]
 

There are stupid people that post all their personal information on their facebook page?

Oh noes!

Exploding Tukey
Gallente
Scrap Metal Salvage Inc
Chained Reactions
Posted - 2010.07.26 15:33:00 - [10]
 

If one person posts his personal information and everybody finds out, then there is a scandal, but when everybody does it, then nobody cares.

you are the type of person who would complain about going outside because people can see what you look like, what color your hair is, what type of figure you are in and begin to judge you.

Personally, i don't mind letting people know what i look like, basic interests, who im friends with, etc. this information is pretty obvious when you see me on the street or ask it from me anyways.

Anonymity is for people who troll on forum alts while not having the backbone to stand responsible for what they say.

ceaon
Posted - 2010.07.26 17:09:00 - [11]
 

the part where show the surveillance on muslim neighborhoods just show how stupid this ppl are and this remember this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McB9tsabPn0

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.07.26 17:37:00 - [12]
 

When I created my Facebook profile I stated that I lived in Alaska just for fun where I actually live in England. One of my daft jokes as on the Internet you can be anything you want and all that rubbish. I have changed my profile back to saying I live in England but Facebook still routes my traffic through Alaskan Facebook servers lol - ak.fbcndn.net.

Yesh
Unjustified Ancients of MuMu
Posted - 2010.07.26 18:29:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Exploding Tukey
If one person posts his personal information and everybody finds out, then there is a scandal, but when everybody does it, then nobody cares.

you are the type of person who would complain about going outside because people can see what you look like, what color your hair is, what type of figure you are in and begin to judge you.

Personally, i don't mind letting people know what i look like, basic interests, who im friends with, etc. this information is pretty obvious when you see me on the street or ask it from me anyways.

Anonymity is for people who troll on forum alts while not having the backbone to stand responsible for what they say.


So would you be happy to post your personal information in this thread? After all, even our mains are just 'ALTS' of our real selves. Think how different eve and the forums would be if our personal info was available for all to see. We are all more or less anonymous here hiding behind our avatars.

I don't know if ccp sells our personal info on to third parties or not (didn't read the privacy policy), but it's all valuable information to build up a more complete picture of who we really are by analyzing how we act when we think we are anonymous be it our play style or posting habits or time spent online.




ceaon
Posted - 2010.07.26 19:02:00 - [14]
 

even if this thing is quite inoffensive i really show how stuff posted on twitter can be analyzed
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/amislove/twittermood/

Zions Child
Caldari
The Resident Haunting
Posted - 2010.07.26 20:40:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Yesh

I don't know if ccp sells our personal info on to third parties or not (didn't read the privacy policy), but it's all valuable information to build up a more complete picture of who we really are by analyzing how we act when we think we are anonymous be it our play style or posting habits or time spent online.






They don't, because they can't possibly be sure its accurate. If you pay with plex, your "real name" could be Mr. Fuzzy Wuzzy Simplekins who lives on 555 Grandfather Avenue in London, Antarctica, and they'd have no way of verifying it. They'll still gladly take your money. Also, unlike Blizzvision, they actually have a commitment to keeping your information private in the EULA, except in legal situations. They are also unable to prevent it from being intercepted by third parties unlawfully, meaning they're not responsible if someone hacks into their system and steals it.

Oh, and as for my personal information, I couldn't care less about where I post it, I'm facebook friends with someone I met here and gave my full name and address to a bunch of people in a particular channel. I won't post it on the forum because it'll get removed.

Jerunk
Posted - 2010.07.26 21:07:00 - [16]
 

FFS i only looked at this thread cus i thought it said PIRACY is dead. :(

Yuda Mann
Posted - 2010.07.27 16:36:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Astenion
[I also love how he feels it's some dramatic discovery that Amazon.com keeps records of your purchases.


The issue wasn't that Amazon is recording your history, it's that your history is available to anyone who wants to see it.

Anyone who thinks this is no big deal is young and has yet to see what happens in real life when the wrong people can access everything there is to know about you.

Andrea Erlang
Caldari
The Severed Hand Asylum
Posted - 2010.07.27 18:19:00 - [18]
 

At the risk of sounding like an ass, can anyone give me a summary...

I don't feel like watching three hours of some guy talking about how people post personal information on the internet.

Le Badass
Posted - 2010.07.28 09:24:00 - [19]
 

Saw it all - Scary and interesting...
Did anyone else note the nod to the heartbroken missionrunners and miners who smack in local, when they've been scammed, ganked or otherwise abused?

Yep... It's right there in the first video 1, starting about 1.45 in, where Steve talks about MMORPGs and how people make their profiles, avatars and how they act.
This guy is a PI and knows people, and he says that if you behave badly online, that's a window into your true nature.
Busted :D

sorrotus
Devious Decorum
Posted - 2010.07.28 09:28:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Jerunk
FFS i only looked at this thread cus i thought it said PIRACY is dead. :(

You aint alone there bro.. :/

Bilko Bobski
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.28 10:35:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Vogue
When I created my Facebook profile I stated that I lived in Alaska just for fun where I actually live in England. One of my daft jokes as on the Internet you can be anything you want and all that rubbish. I have changed my profile back to saying I live in England but Facebook still routes my traffic through Alaskan Facebook servers lol - ak.fbcndn.net.


And now anybody who wants to know where you actually live - knows you live in England and lie about your information. It might sound stupid, but as mentioned - one of the biggest give-aways of your information is somebody else. It wouldn't take much for me or anybody else to make a website about people who lied on facebook and begin posting their true identity (not that I believe anybody would do that here).

I think it's a really good talk; it might be obvious that these things can all be used - but the video really helps you to think about how extensive the data is for you, and how impossible it is to re-annonymise yourself.

Zofe Stormcaller
B4D W0LF
B4D W01F
Posted - 2010.07.28 12:05:00 - [22]
 

I've listened to several of Rambam's talks including this one when it was originally podcasted. He isn't an old fart that can't move with the times: he is taking advantage of the fact that too many stupid criminals have failed to move with the times and have no idea about information control and he busts them, while Johnny Paedo wonders how they got busted after practically advertising making a map on the internet with a big red dot on top of their house with "I fiddle kids here" on it with tween motion animation and then getting it on deviantart daily favourites.

I have multiple facebook accounts but I've only got enough information on there thanks to friends tagging the odd photo with me in it to suggest that I exist and I know some people. This can be found out through normal means anyway. I don't share my life with it or upload anything. I don't generally use pictures with exif tag data unless i want to remember where I took it. If for some reason I wanted to go to ground I'd be using someone elses wifi, on a laptop with no hard drive fitted running a liveCD on spoofed MAC addresses, connecting to freshly made disposable accounts on all the internet services I wanted to use. I wouldn't carry a mobile phone phone at all. Food, shelter and money I'd have no clue how to do but internet wise I should be ok at least for a while.


ceaon
Posted - 2010.07.28 12:35:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Bilko Bobski
Originally by: Vogue
When I created my Facebook profile I stated that I lived in Alaska just for fun where I actually live in England. One of my daft jokes as on the Internet you can be anything you want and all that rubbish. I have changed my profile back to saying I live in England but Facebook still routes my traffic through Alaskan Facebook servers lol - ak.fbcndn.net.


And now anybody who wants to know where you actually live


and facebook can sue him for lie about the data, according to FB TOS u must provide true info about yourself all teh tiem


 

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