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Darcaedus
Posted - 2010.07.23 19:11:00 - [1]
 

So I'm closing in on my first month of play (thanks, Steam!), and have finally hit a wall. I finished the tutorials and set off to do the Sisters of Eve storyline that the tutorial agents give you. I've been moving through those and then hit a mission that has me stuck.

I can't remember the name, but it has you taking out about 3 waves of ships. The first wave goes fine for me, but the second wave took me by surprise, and before I could get out of there, I had lost the nice ship I had gotten at the end of my tutorial (can't remember the name). I set about to try it several different times with the rookie ship they supplied me with, then picked up another basic ship, but have realized that I'm just over my head.

I'm still feeling out the game, so I'm not even really sure what I'd want to do in terms of career. I'm just trying the storyline just to get some experience and feel for the game. Hitting this mission, I realize I'm clueless as to what ship I should be flying right now and how I should outfit it.

Anyone have any recommendations? I'm probably sitting on about 4 mil ISK, so I don't have a ton to spend, and of course, as my story reveals, I need to be able to replace anything if I get careless again.

Thanks for any advice.

Sandeep
Posted - 2010.07.23 19:16:00 - [2]
 

Without knowing which mission and your limitations (both player and character skills), it is very difficult to tell you what to do. Your best bet is to ask for help in Local or HelpMyMission channel. You might get advices or reinforcements. To find what you lost, go to Character Sheet -> Combat Log. To find your current mission, go to Journal.


Cathleia
Posted - 2010.07.23 21:54:00 - [3]
 

It all depends on your skill. Reading you said you just started means you're probably in a frigate or destroyer ship.
You shouldn't have problems on buying and fitting one of those ships.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Posted - 2010.07.23 22:23:00 - [4]
 

Since you are an Ammarian character and have recently started the game I'm going to assume that you have only trained up Ammarian related skills and ships.

If this is the case, I'd recommend you skip the destroyer class altogether (the Coercer isn't all that good for a newbie tbh due to its weak capacitor) and go for a cheap cruiser (not the Maller or the Auguor).

For one, you'll have a MUCH beefer tank to play with... and second, you'll get to experience using drones and longer range weapons (which is essential if you want to stick around).

For fitting advice I'd also recommend going to Battleclinic.com (registration is free) and checking out the various loadouts they have saved there (don't be daunted by the fact that most of the fittings are T2 fitted, "dumb them down" to your respective skill level until you can fit them properly).

If you are still having problems, ask for help. There is always a bleeding heart out there that will assist you. While you are at it, also look into joining a [good] corp. Many times, a corp can mean the difference between staying in the game and leaving it.

Darcaedus
Posted - 2010.07.24 03:54:00 - [5]
 

That advice was very helpful. I picked up a Punisher, did as much outfitting from a Battleclinic link as I could given my skill and ISK limits (scaled down to Tier 1), and was eventually able to finish the mission with a few false starts (that I escaped from before blowing up). I'm trying to train up some skills to be able to add a few more of the pieces of equipment some of these tanks were outfitted with.

One of the things I noticed that I hadn't been paying attention to was the range limits for the particular laser fittings (forgot what those things are called). I outfitted 3 microwave beams for the enhanced range, but seemed to notice it was most effective only at long distances. Do you recommend mixing up the beams with different types, or any that I should focus on at low skill levels?

Thanks for everyone's input. I realize I was shooting for the moon trying to ask for help without giving a lot of details, but this is helpful.

Baneken
Gallente
The New Knighthood
Apocalypse Now.
Posted - 2010.07.24 07:11:00 - [6]
 

If we're talking about the first epic arch, you can do it easily with a destroyer just train the recommended certificates for it.
Only one mission was impossible with a destroyer and that was about killing BBEG's henchman and the final battle.
Even the final battle was easy piece but the fact that it took almost 2 hours (and restocking of ammunition) to shoot him down made me think that the mission might not been designed with a destroyer in mind.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Posted - 2010.07.24 09:24:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Darcaedus

One of the things I noticed that I hadn't been paying attention to was the range limits for the particular laser fittings (forgot what those things are called).



They are referred to as "ammo crystals"... depending on the type you use, you will either get more damage, more range, or more saved capacitor.
I suggest you become check their stats and become familiar with what each crystal can do.

Originally by: Darcaedus

I outfitted 3 microwave beams for the enhanced range, but seemed to notice it was most effective only at long distances. Do you recommend mixing up the beams with different types, or any that I should focus on at low skill levels?



First off, unless you have a ship with more high-slots than a specific weapon slot, NEVER mix weapon types. It unnecessarily complicates things and makes for poor performance in general.

That said; Beam Lasers are your long range weapons and Pulse Lasers are generally short range.

If you are using "long range" weapons then your objective is to keep as much range as possible between you and your targets as, at closer ranges, your guns will not be able to "track" the targets and deal full DPS. Fitting an afterburner is mandatory if you choose to utilize a ranged setup.

If you fit with "short range" weapons then your primary focus should be on beefing up your tank to absorb as much incoming DPS as possible for an indefinite amounts of time. Meanwhile, you should be able to deal enough DPS to take out the targets as quickly as possible (even with an "uber tank" it is still possible to be "swarmed").


A Punisher might work well for you right now, but again, I strongly suggest you work your way up to at least an Arbitrator or Omen cruiser (check their stats to see which one works best for you)... having access to those ships might come in handy when you run into a mission (especially on the Epic Arc) that your Punisher can't handle (and you will run into this situation).

Falllon
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.07.25 09:46:00 - [8]
 

Haha......i'am sorta in the same boat.Some missions are just to impossible at the minute with the ships i can only fly with my SP.But i'am training frigate level 5 to get cruisers hopefully soon.(within the next week hopefully...or maybe later)
Give me a shout sometime if you want to try and complete the missions co-op....it normally is easierVery Happy

sauron24
Posted - 2010.07.26 10:07:00 - [9]
 

hey..i am a new player too..i play for 6 monthes finaly have my battle ship and i want to say that the first 4 monthes was a hell....but what help a great deal was that.. http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports iformation about all missions ..it is good..if you are not familiar with that page..try it..it will save your neck in most situation..info for the mission and objectives and fitting you must do..most of the times it worked...Very Happy

Cathleia
Posted - 2010.07.26 10:23:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Falllon
But i'am training frigate level 5 to get cruisers hopefully soon.(within the next week hopefully...or maybe later)



You only need Frigate 4 for the Cruiser skill.

Iogrim
Posted - 2010.07.26 12:11:00 - [11]
 

I have started EVE 2 weeks ago. Finished first half of epic arc with Cormorant, and rest of it 2 days ago with Caracal. Both parts were extremely easy, not a single warp-out, except the final battle, where I was killing the bad guy for 20mins with no success until I remembered I had drones Embarassed. That made a difference.

In general, you need to read about the game a bit, take small steps and you should roll through everything. My advice is to do all career missions 3-4 times - there are 4 sets of career agents for each race http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Career_Agents. Thus you will accumulate at least 15mil ISK and 4 destroyers + loads of frigates. The rewards are much better there than doing simple L1 missions. Buy named long-range lasers and defenses, and fit afterburner so that you would always be at maximum range. At the same time train for Cruisers and with it you should be rolling through L2 missions, what I am doing right now.

Sibil Vane
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.07.27 15:11:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Sibil Vane on 27/07/2010 15:14:17
Edited by: Sibil Vane on 27/07/2010 15:13:17
You can do the entire arc in a frigate. Use a drone.


http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1022482/page/3



http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1222184/page/1#1

http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1175181/page/1#8


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