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Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2010.07.15 17:03:00 - [1]
 

Popped into waterstones and found both eve books and was unsure as to which one to pick up.

Has anyone out there has a chance to read the books, if so, which one is the best read?.

ThisIsNotMyAlt
Posted - 2010.07.15 17:12:00 - [2]
 

emperian age is pretty good. the burning life i have not read it yet, but i saw it got some less positive reviews on amazon

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2010.07.15 17:35:00 - [3]
 

thanks for that, will pick it up the morrow

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2010.07.15 17:46:00 - [4]
 

I actually liked both a lot. Tony's focuses on capsuleers and the Amarr/Minnie, Gal/Cal clashes. Hjalti's has drug and sex addiction, revenge, and focuses on the lesser factions (e.g. one of the heroes is a Blood Raider) and Sisters of EVE.

ThisIsNotMyAlt
Posted - 2010.07.15 18:04:00 - [5]
 

you should make audiobooks of them too.

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2010.07.15 22:17:00 - [6]
 

Audiobooks would be cool, who would do the voice though?

ThisIsNotMyAlt
Posted - 2010.07.15 22:19:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Brolly
Audiobooks would be cool, who would do the voice though?


well some of thoose voice actors they use for other audiobooks i guess. i'd like this because i have an audible account :D

Ix Forres
Caldari
Righteous Chaps
Posted - 2010.07.15 22:21:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Brolly
Audiobooks would be cool, who would do the voice though?


Brian Blessed! (or Patrick Stewart, if they've got the money)

Jonas Morgan
Posted - 2010.07.15 22:40:00 - [9]
 

I have read both books and think both are fantastic. Like the chronicals, each covers the many facets of life in EVE. I would say that if your iterests in EVE are the politics and conflicts between the empires, go for the first one(Empyrean Age).

If on the other hand you like the idea of the little man who lives on the stations in deep space and the people who keep the capsuleers busy and how capsuleers afect the normal folk and their lives go for the second (The Burning LIfe).

Either way, both cover thier events very well and am sure you will enjoy both books. If you read one, you will want to read the other. Neither are conected so it does not matter which order you read them

Happy reading Very Happy

JM

Nick Curso
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.15 22:47:00 - [10]
 

Empyrean age for sure, the burning life took alot of getting into and when u did u almost regret it. Its not a terrible book but not a touch on Empyrean age.

Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Mordus Angels
Posted - 2010.07.15 22:48:00 - [11]
 

The next one is BEST by FAR - so get it!

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2010.07.15 23:12:00 - [12]
 

I want to be more positive but I thought both books were "bad fan fiction" level. I really didn't enjoy Empyrean Age very much but when reading The Burning Life, I realised how much better EA had been.

Both are clumsily written, both have wafer-thin plots with holes big enough to fly a Nyx through and both are devoid of any kind of decent fleshing out of the characters.

The only positive thing I really have to say about either of them is that they DO give a greater insight into aspects of EvE, which almost made it worthwhile.

Almost.

Sadly, like a masochist, I know I will pre-order and read the next book, even not having truly enjoyed the first two.

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2010.07.15 23:35:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Pesky LaRue
plots with holes big enough to fly a Nyx through


I did lol

Would be awesome if CCP did an annual of sorts with articles regarding ingame events written in an RP way, the chronicles and some hard server facts incorporating the anual review, maybe in a book and PDF format.

I have the original eve guide with the first chronicles, would be nice to have them all on paper, reading from the screen is horrible imho.

/me realizes the obvious and considers buying a new printer cartridge Laughing

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.07.15 23:44:00 - [14]
 

I preferred The Burning Life over EA by quite a margin. Although both suffer from trying to have a balanced approach of trying not to leave anyone out (i.e the factions).

C.


Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2010.07.15 23:56:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Brolly

Would be awesome if CCP did an annual of sorts with articles regarding ingame events written in an RP way, the chronicles and some hard server facts incorporating the anual review, maybe in a book and PDF format.

love that idea.

Originally by: Cailais
Although both suffer from trying to have a balanced approach of trying not to leave anyone out (i.e the factions)
Didn't bother me so much in the first one as there were actual stories from each faction (good or bad, they were there) but in the Burning Life it seemed so much more forced - particularly the Agent's Wacky Adventures through the four main factions.

Culmen
Caldari
Culmenation
Posted - 2010.07.16 00:21:00 - [16]
 

Empyrean Age is much better then Burning Life.

Empyrean Age is actually a story set in the Eve Universe.

The Burning Life is a discount package tour of eve.
I can almost hear the tour guide saying in an all too practiced voice,"on your left we have the blood raiders. Did you know their society is based around blood? aren't they scary? moving on..."
Before you are whisked away on a plot convenience to the next stop.

That book doesn't so much end, but stop.
they ran out of empire/factions so they just stopped there.
It was crap.

Aggelos Theristes
Posted - 2010.07.16 01:19:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Ix Forres
Originally by: Brolly
Audiobooks would be cool, who would do the voice though?


Brian Blessed! (or Patrick Stewart, if they've got the money)


Just be sure to turn the volume down to 0.5%.

Ix Forres
Caldari
Righteous Chaps
Posted - 2010.07.16 02:26:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Aggelos Theristes
Originally by: Ix Forres
Originally by: Brolly
Audiobooks would be cool, who would do the voice though?


Brian Blessed! (or Patrick Stewart, if they've got the money)


Just be sure to turn the volume down to 0.5%.


Even at 0.5%, Brian Blessed can cause hearing damage.

Seriously though, I enjoyed both books, but perhaps Burning Life more. I might go re-read Empyrean Age. Burning Life has a lot more space opera going for it, which I'm a sucker for, so... Razz

OwlManAtt
Gallente
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.07.16 02:47:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Culmen
The Burning Life is a discount package tour of eve.
I can almost hear the tour guide saying in an all too practiced voice,"on your left we have the blood raiders. Did you know their society is based around blood? aren't they scary? moving on..."
Before you are whisked away on a plot convenience to the next stop.
This, TBH. I felt kind of meh about Burning Life when I finished it, but I've never really been able to put my finger on it. The quoted poster is spot-on.

I liked seeing the behind-the-scenes stuff for mission agents. I would have liked to see more instead of the rapid empire hopping. If somebody is new to EVE and wants to get a quick who's who, Burning Life would be perfect. For somebody who's been here since 2003 and read every story/chronicle, not so much.

It didn't help that I expected the book to completely fill me in on DUST 514. I was expecting to be reading about footsloggers blowing **** up, not meth addicts trying to find a good rehab program.

As for the other story arc involving the bitter blood raider kid...it had its moments.

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2010.07.16 02:52:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Brolly
Audiobooks would be cool, who would do the voice though?


Aura, your spacecraft's computer.

Hound Achura
Posted - 2010.07.16 03:04:00 - [21]
 

The first was far better.

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2010.07.16 05:58:00 - [22]
 

Read the first one. Empyrean age is simply a more entertaining book. It is still just "trash scifi", so it isn't a masterpiece and stretches credibility a bit too much. It is still interesting to read and explains in better detail what happened in the EVE universe during the events of the empyrean age expansion.

The second book had some good parts, but they were floating on a sea of ****. It focuses on how people other than capsuleers live and gives a very forced and unbelievable guide of many of the factions. The plot and characters weren't any better than in the first and it really at times reads like a turist guide(and is just as boring to read) where all the factions are visited with meetings of numerous faction leaders. Generally I like reading trashy scifi books, but even I had to facepalm and yell bull**** to many of the events in the second book. As said the first isn't a masterpiece either, but it is more entertaining and is much more relevant to the people actually playing EVE.

Takashi Halamoto
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.16 08:24:00 - [23]
 

also Empyrean Age does actually give you incannon history lesson from the expansion of the same name, all them events happened in game universe, go visit Yulai there is the damaged CONCORD bureau, we all know about the Malkalen incident where Ishukone HQ got blown up,

the Burning life has its nice elements in it but does feel too much like a forced attempt to get in all the empires and all the pirates (well most thereof) the pirate side feels less forced at first, but in the end there you go,

now the next one id dearly love to be more focused on a side or two, Caldari/Gallente, or Minmatar/Amarr or Blood Raider/Amarr even but more concentrated whatever the specifics rather than the grand sweep of space,

CCP Jasonitas

Posted - 2010.07.16 13:00:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: CCP Jasonitas on 16/07/2010 13:00:07
Originally by: Brolly
Originally by: Pesky LaRue


Would be awesome if CCP did an annual of sorts with articles regarding ingame events written in an RP way, the chronicles and some hard server facts incorporating the anual review, maybe in a book and PDF format.



Well, we do have this:

Month-by-month histories on the wiki


Jason1138
Posted - 2010.07.16 13:47:00 - [25]
 

empyrean age was good, in spite of really ridiculous things like a BS killing a titan

burning life is terrible. like really terrible. like fan fiction written by a 12 year old terrible. if you want to read it you can have my copy, i regret buying it


Sahriah BloodStone
Caldari
Black Skull Squadron
Posted - 2010.07.16 14:08:00 - [26]
 

I enjoyed empyrian age a lot more, it touched the heart of EvE rather then the fringes.

It would have been better if it was from the point of view of the actual pirate factions rather then sisters

Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
Posted - 2010.07.16 14:59:00 - [27]
 

I really hated Empyrean Age, even more than I've disliked Gonzales' novellas. However, Burning Life came out pretty well. Not Abraxas' best work, but considering how good his "best work" really is, that's not much of a knock.

Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
Posted - 2010.07.16 15:56:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt
you should make audiobooks of them too.


Read by Soundwave! That would be awesome

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2010.07.16 17:34:00 - [29]
 

If you like toilet paper, you'll simply love the range of EVE Online novels

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2010.07.16 18:34:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: CCP Jasonitas
Edited by: CCP Jasonitas on 16/07/2010 13:00:07
Originally by: Brolly
Originally by: Pesky LaRue


Would be awesome if CCP did an annual of sorts with articles regarding ingame events written in an RP way, the chronicles and some hard server facts incorporating the anual review, maybe in a book and PDF format.



Well, we do have this:

Month-by-month histories on the wiki




Thanks, was not aware of that.

Purchased a copy of the emyrean age, getting used to the writing style atm (currently reading Rankin's retromancer too Very Happy).



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