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Jack Dant
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:16:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Dr Cron
Wow you all sound really out of touch as far as combat goes tbh.


Not necessarily :D

Considering the high quality fittings used in the live events, I really don't see your point Wink

KaarBaak
Minmatar
Seatec Astronomy
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:20:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Dr Cron
Wow you all sound really out of touch as far as combat goes tbh.


Not necessarily :D


Not to derail, but is there an AAR on how that project worked out? Will there be more or another 3-year wait?

KB

Hennata
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:22:00 - [123]
 

ya know, ppl work at ccp so they can cheat at eve, kk Razz

I wonder if there is a clause prohibiting insider information from being used, for example:

Dev 1: we are gonna buff *insert item*
Dev 2: Logs in and clears out jita of said item
Dev 2: posts smack on MD with an alt on how he wins at Eve

hakkiew365
Muffin Munchers
Muffy Inc.
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:27:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
I'm not sure how many posters/lurkers attend Fanfests, but we do hold a Player v Dev event that's a lot of fun to watch.

I'm not sure of his overall playstyle, but this is my favorite Yokai story. He wasn't working for us then. But as a player, he was on the pickup team Bubblegum that made it all the way to second place in the FF08 PvP tourney. It was amazing to watch this batch of strangers play amazingly well.


Indeed, I laugh every time I see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=8wljfgZlF_4&hd=1#t=1h33m30s, a good example of some quality DEV PVP Very Happy
Tho I feel a bit sorry for Mindstar and Nova for dying this fast Sad oh well, their fault Rolling Eyes
I'm looking forward to fight you dev's again next fanfest Laughing

Muffin Muncher for Life

TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:42:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: hakkiew365
Indeed, I laugh every time I see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=8wljfgZlF_4&hd=1#t=1h33m30s, a good example of some quality DEV PVP Very Happy
Tho I feel a bit sorry for Mindstar and Nova for dying this fast Sad oh well, their fault Rolling Eyes
I'm looking forward to fight you dev's again next fanfest Laughing

That was a fun day Smile

CCP Solomon


Minmatar
C C P
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:58:00 - [126]
 

Since 2005 - Carebear and proud.

Project X592
Posted - 2010.07.15 16:04:00 - [127]
 

With all these CCP alts playing EVE I can't help but wonder how many I've griefed in the past Twisted Evil

GM Pyro

Posted - 2010.07.15 16:31:00 - [128]
 

Iíve been playing since late í05 and enjoyed every minute of it. Iíve moved through various alliances and had lots of fun out pirating in low sec and 0.0. Iíve done my fair share of carebear stuff as well, though itís more fun to be out in the thick of things.

Simeon Tor
Picon Fleet
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2010.07.15 16:48:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: GM Spiral
You can trust Arkanon and Morpheus from IA to watch over this quite carefully indeed.


Oh good!

But who watches over Arkanon and Morpheus?

Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.07.15 17:23:00 - [130]
 

I used to. But apparently there was so little talk in #eve-chaos, that Morpheus left. Cool

Also, interesting to see that out of maybe two devs in this thread, nobody seems to have any experience with the sov system. Figures.

enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
Posted - 2010.07.15 17:23:00 - [131]
 

There are so many i have got to ask! Did i got any of your hulks CCP? If so, please do not ban me ExclamationVery Happy

Larkonis Trassler
Doctrine.
Posted - 2010.07.15 17:24:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Simeon Tor
Originally by: GM Spiral
You can trust Arkanon and Morpheus from IA to watch over this quite carefully indeed.


Oh good!

But who watches over Arkanon and Morpheus?


/o\

Arcetype
Posted - 2010.07.15 18:30:00 - [133]
 

Had no idea so many CCP employees played the game!

+1 for CCP!

Note: No guarantee of any pluses, or ones for anyone at CCP.

farfrael
FP Enterprise
Posted - 2010.07.15 19:05:00 - [134]
 

**** YEAH, this (CCP participating again) needs to happen again and more
Thank you CCP devs, somewhat rekindled the thought that you still care about the game. It was getting harder and harder to believe it.

Just smack Nathan up the head and make him come down to earth and everything will be good again. All will be forgiven :)

seany1212
The Scowling Men
Posted - 2010.07.15 19:22:00 - [135]
 

posting in a truely epic thread, nice to see how many CCP employees have posted in here and what they do while in eve. Now, get back to fixing the overview... Razz

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.07.15 19:34:00 - [136]
 

MY GOD.

It's full of Carebears.


brb, putting Carebear on my CV and applying.

Yuki Katsumura
Caldari
Carthage Industries
Posted - 2010.07.15 19:40:00 - [137]
 

Edited by: Yuki Katsumura on 15/07/2010 19:41:02
Originally by: Blane Xero
MY GOD.

It's full of Carebears.


brb, putting Carebear on my CV and applying.


Wait, you didn't already? You're one of the biggest carebears I know. Have all those expensive ships to PvP with but you'll never undock with them. Lazy ****.


Jove X
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
Posted - 2010.07.15 19:42:00 - [138]
 

To the CCP carebears .. well done for confessing that. I have a recommendation (or perhaps a challenge):

Try living in 0.0 and building up standings with a criminal faction. I'm not just talking with a criminal corporation but with the over-riding faction. It is harder than it looks.

(It is not the same experience as building standings with the main-stream factions. It will give you an entirely new perspective on a game element you thought you knew. Criminal connections does not work exactly the same as Connections, and it is an entirely new ball of wax. Also, you already fundamentally know the approach.)

I'd love to see a CCP employee with a standing of 8 with the Guristas or Serpentis.

CCP Jasonitas

Posted - 2010.07.15 20:02:00 - [139]
 

I started playing EVE after I started working for CCP in 2008. Now I have three accounts, with my main and another alt in lowsec. If I'm not fighting in Factional Warfare, I'm out doing exploration sites in lowsec and nullsec. (I'm trying to get into booster production.) And sometimes I gear up for a night of fighting, when I'm in the mood. Very Happy

DJ Obsidian
RONA Legion
Posted - 2010.07.15 20:05:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Batolemaeus
I used to. But apparently there was so little talk in #eve-chaos, that Morpheus left. Cool

Also, interesting to see that out of maybe two devs in this thread, nobody seems to have any experience with the sov system. Figures.



See Reference CCP Abathur. Right, Abathur was the one in MC?

CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.07.15 20:18:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Jove X
I'd love to see a CCP employee with a standing of 8 with the Guristas or Serpentis.


Well, Cartel here (9.0+). Same principle applies though, even if you're running out of Serpentis Prime or some other horrible clusterf...

Step 1: Grab a Tech III. Tengu is arguably the best for this job.
Step 2: Fit MWD/Impro Cloak + Interdiction Nullifier
Step 3: Learn how to evade camps using MWD/Improved Cloak. Get it down to an art form, so that when you jump into that gatecamp from hell, you can keep it together.
Step 4: Pray to your God that you never land <3,000m from something else in a gatecamp. This is, in fact, the only real risk.
Step 5: Profit!

Other points...

Escape gatecamps: Use MWD/Impro cloak trick to turn 0.0 into the equivalent of lowsec. The only difference - when it comes to gate camping - between 0.0 and lowsec is that bubbles work in one, and not in the other. Interdiction nullifiers change this, and effectively turn 0.0 into lowsec. Ergo: You don't need to fit that Covert reconfiguration that horribly gimps your DPS (and consequently your mission-running capabilities). Just fit an I.N and pretend you're in Ammamake, not Serp Prime.

Avoid station camps: Instantly undock with an off-station bookmark. For added safety, at the cost of added logistics, fleet up with a second character and have them get the missions. I'm guessing this is what I'd want to do at Serpentis Prime, rather than undocking my 3b ISK Tengu in front of a hungry fleet. A second character also adds to your safety in that you can cloak one of them outside the station, and have them insta-warp your other mission-grabbing character out, quite a few seconds before you can actually control that character's client and tell them yourself to warp to the "undock" bookmark. It also helps to have a sacrificial lamb you can jump into systems you suspect are being camped.

Avoid mission disruption: Make your Tech III impossible to probe down. Don't launch drones. Kill target painting NPCs first. Usual drill here. If you fit faction modules in the right places, you can squeeze on the required ECCM/Backup Array configuration of your choice.

Add it all together and you can travel where you want, dock/undock at any station you want, and run missions for the pirate faction of your choice with almost complete impunity. It may be slower than taking a Maurauder in there, but it's of course, an order of magnitude more safe, and to me at least, far more interesting.

NinjaPvE best PvE.

P.S. On a technicality...getting Guristas faction would have become much less difficult since the advent of the pirate faction arcs.

Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
Posted - 2010.07.15 20:20:00 - [142]
 

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Nah, I don't play EVE at all.
Oh drat, I'm not a dev. Ignore me! Embarassed
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DJ Obsidian
RONA Legion
Posted - 2010.07.15 20:28:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: Entity
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Nah, I don't play EVE at all.
Oh drat, I'm not a dev. Ignore me! Embarassed
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Epic win!

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.07.15 20:29:00 - [144]
 

Edited by: Liang Nuren on 15/07/2010 20:30:04
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
...


If CCP devs posted this kind of in depth "No, you're wrong" more often nobody would doubt you guys play Eve. Shocked Drop, follow me on Twitter and I'll DM you another easy way to get standings. :p

-Liang

Ed: In fact, I'm saving a link to this post because its that good. Next time someone says CCP doesn't play Eve...

Goey Goober
Posted - 2010.07.15 20:40:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Jove X
I'd love to see a CCP employee with a standing of 8 with the Guristas or Serpentis.


Well, Cartel here (9.0+). Same principle applies though, even if you're running out of Serpentis Prime or some other horrible clusterf...

Step 1: Grab a Tech III. Tengu is arguably the best for this job.
Step 2: Fit MWD/Impro Cloak + Interdiction Nullifier
Step 3: Learn how to evade camps using MWD/Improved Cloak. Get it down to an art form, so that when you jump into that gatecamp from hell, you can keep it together.
Step 4: Pray to your God that you never land <3,000m from something else in a gatecamp. This is, in fact, the only real risk.
Step 5: Profit!

Other points...

Escape gatecamps: Use MWD/Impro cloak trick to turn 0.0 into the equivalent of lowsec. The only difference - when it comes to gate camping - between 0.0 and lowsec is that bubbles work in one, and not in the other. Interdiction nullifiers change this, and effectively turn 0.0 into lowsec. Ergo: You don't need to fit that Covert reconfiguration that horribly gimps your DPS (and consequently your mission-running capabilities). Just fit an I.N and pretend you're in Ammamake, not Serp Prime.

Avoid station camps: Instantly undock with an off-station bookmark. For added safety, at the cost of added logistics, fleet up with a second character and have them get the missions. I'm guessing this is what I'd want to do at Serpentis Prime, rather than undocking my 3b ISK Tengu in front of a hungry fleet. A second character also adds to your safety in that you can cloak one of them outside the station, and have them insta-warp your other mission-grabbing character out, quite a few seconds before you can actually control that character's client and tell them yourself to warp to the "undock" bookmark. It also helps to have a sacrificial lamb you can jump into systems you suspect are being camped.

Avoid mission disruption: Make your Tech III impossible to probe down. Don't launch drones. Kill target painting NPCs first. Usual drill here. If you fit faction modules in the right places, you can squeeze on the required ECCM/Backup Array configuration of your choice.

Add it all together and you can travel where you want, dock/undock at any station you want, and run missions for the pirate faction of your choice with almost complete impunity. It may be slower than taking a Maurauder in there, but it's of course, an order of magnitude more safe, and to me at least, far more interesting.

NinjaPvE best PvE.

P.S. On a technicality...getting Guristas faction would have become much less difficult since the advent of the pirate faction arcs.

Ever been double bubbled by a dictor? You can be caught, it just takes more work and a very specific fitting/knowledge base.

Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Mordus Angels
Posted - 2010.07.15 20:48:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Jove X
I'd love to see a CCP employee with a standing of 8 with the Guristas or Serpentis.

Well, Cartel here (9.0+). Same principle applies though, even if you're running out of Serpentis Prime or some other horrible clusterf...



Well done again then CCP Dropbear (we need more clues).

How do you get around the issue of not being able to rat? If you do - any faction you build up is instantly killed (not with the corporation, but with the faction)?

Ran Khanon
Amarr
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
Posted - 2010.07.15 22:39:00 - [147]
 

Edited by: Ran Khanon on 15/07/2010 22:41:44

NICE post, CCP Dropbear. Quite inspiring :)

It is a shame however, that starting players in EVE who fancy PVE to make their isk, are almost automatically set out on a course which has them end up with terrible standings with pirate factions once they are reasonably skilled up and start planning their character's future in EVE.

This is something I find very detrimental to the game. There would be a much greater incentive for pve'ers to go to low sec and 0.0 to mission for pirate factions if the age old 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' concept would be introduced to PVE:

Occasional important storyline missions which not only boost your standings with your own empire faction, but also with one of the pirate factions opposing your empire faction's enemy: for example, players missioning for Amarr corporations would gain standing with the Angels after completing a mission with detrimental effects to the Minmatar Republic. (These missions should be totally optional and lead to lowsec or 0.0 space in my mind).

Not sure if this would compute with the lore though, but it would deepen the conflict between races and make your allegiances a more important factor, (now all pirate factions are in a league of their own, conflict wise, instead of being involved in the 'wars' between Empire factions), it would open the door to make a career switch and make missioning for pirate factions in lowsec /0.0 a tempting option for a lot of empire dwellers and it would spread out the player base a little more evenly over New Eden.

I don't think player pirates will complain to having more targets flying around either.

Win, win win.

Anyway, my ninja suggestion worth 2 cents.

Issaries Valran
Caldari
Posted - 2010.07.15 22:59:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Thoraxe Rig
Do you guys have to pay for your EvE account, or do you guys get like 1 freely subscribed account for as long as you are a CCP employee?
We get up to 3 free accounts, have to subscribe beyond that.


Is this CCP's way of implying that you need at least 3 accounts to play EvE properly?


CCP Kepler

Posted - 2010.07.15 23:49:00 - [149]
 

I've been playing since 2007-ish. Mostly pvp (and getting blown up....a lot), but I have been known to dabble in industry. I have a deep affection for mining, but I'm not sure why... It's calming...meditative almost. Very Happy

To answer someone else's question: As far as I know, I don't play with any other CCPers; however, we often talk about our EvE experiences in the office.

See you in space....

Myrkala
Minmatar
Rebel Inc
Posted - 2010.07.15 23:53:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Issaries Valran
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Thoraxe Rig
Do you guys have to pay for your EvE account, or do you guys get like 1 freely subscribed account for as long as you are a CCP employee?
We get up to 3 free accounts, have to subscribe beyond that.


Is this CCP's way of implying that you need at least 3 accounts to play EvE properly?




There is always one.

(Actually, more than one. But hey...)


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