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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.10.10 14:16:00 - [271]
 

Edited by: chatgris on 10/10/2010 14:18:02
Originally by: Cromwell Savage

And yes, it IS nice to have Nibble Tek on the caldari side. It's refeshing to have an enemy that isn't afraid to stand its ground and straight up fight. No fail boosting alts, aggro games, NPCs. Just fight.


You forgot "fight in point range" as well :)

Regardless BM - I'll fully admit we've gotten soft. These last few months have seen many days with 2:1 k/d ratios in the militia office gallente vs caldari. Pretty bad cause new pilots don't get to figure out how fail their fits are/how underskilled they are for what they are flying etc. Be nice not to be competing against 2 other friendly fleets to be the first to a small patch of wts.

Bring back gavin's 100man fleets camping us in station! More fun to be the underdog IMO :)

EDIT: Ofc, damar/BM will find something to smack talk about here. Makes me appreciate all the other caldari guys I share chat channels with, these threads make me appreciate you guys all the more :)

Bad Messenger
draketrain
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:02:00 - [272]
 

Originally by: Cromwell Savage
Originally by: Bad Messenger

As i have always said gallente is not so good at all. They think they are pro, but when they really meet pro players they just will die.

Nice to have Nibble Tek on caldari side this time. Wink


LOL!!! Man, you ex-PERVS are still true to form - full of smakc talk fail. One battle summary and you come up with that? Rolling Eyes Win some, lose some. That's the nature of PvP. Guess the last few years of FW stats doesn't count - where even you guys and your rule bending tactics couldn't turn the tide, eh? [breaks out spittle gaurd so when Brigadier General Drama starts to rage about all Gallente hax, I won't have to get a tetanus shot from reading the forums] Razz

And yes, it IS nice to have Nibble Tek on the caldari side. It's refeshing to have an enemy that isn't afraid to stand its ground and straight up fight. No fail boosting alts, aggro games, NPCs. Just fight.

07


BTW i was serious about what i said.

If you get nice stats by smashing noobs in tama does not make you any good.

I am waiting when you take next stand up fight against Nibble Tek, after that i may believe what you say.

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.10.10 15:09:00 - [273]
 

Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 10/10/2010 18:48:20
Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 10/10/2010 18:43:52
Originally by: chatgris
You forgot "fight in point range" as well :)


Just because your tackle range is 8/24km, doesnt mean others have such limitations...

Originally by: Cromwell Savage
No fail boosting alts, aggro games, NPCs. Just fight.


Not all like your neutral Damnation/Claymore in Heyd pos or pack of neutral guardians following your fleets or turning Caldari npcs to fire on caldari militia. I quess you still dont understand how low we rate your corporation based on the events of 2009-08-10

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2010.10.10 17:37:00 - [274]
 

BM is right tbh, mainly due to the lack of decent fleet action we have gotten complacent and lazy - Said the same thing to my corp on our forums. Hopefully this wont be too harsh of a wakeup call for us :)

Nibbletek are pro corp with bloody good pvp'ers - Gonna be a tough time for us but sure as hell going to have some fun with it :)

Dracorimus
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.10.10 19:59:00 - [275]
 

It is refreshing to be back in FW YARRRR!!

Igloo
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.10.10 22:07:00 - [276]
 

Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Turning Caldari npcs to fire on caldari militia. I quess you still dont understand how low we rate your corporation based on the events of 2009-08-10

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General



Never change.

BacardiDesire
Perkone
Posted - 2010.10.11 00:45:00 - [277]
 

Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: chatgris
With the addition of Nibbletek to the caldari side - it looks like the pendulum is swinging back towards the caldari side pretty hard, and this thread can pretty much come to a close :)

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=7776167

You guys set the bar high, I hope we find a way to match you guys!


As i have always said gallente is not so good at all. They think they are pro, but when they really meet pro players they just will die.

Nice to have Nibble Tek on caldari side this time. Wink



Well basicly they have been in caldari militia before just under the name of Atomic Battle Pinguins, that's where a quite a few guys from nibbletek came from
never the less, intresting to see how gallente will respond to these fine gentlemen :)

Lord Cyracis
Posted - 2010.10.11 04:11:00 - [278]
 

Originally by: BacardiDesire
intresting to see how gallente will respond to these fine gentlemen :)


Response? Well Gallente have been quite civil lately, kudos for that. Although I seem to recall better smack from the Gallies when FW first launched. Overall it's good to be back in FW and surrounded by flashies. If only there were fewer stations in FW space, like say... none. The run and dock when there's 4 of us around grew quite frustrating today.

Gallente: You wouldn't want to bring out those shiny moms to play anytime soon, would you?

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.10.11 04:59:00 - [279]
 

On 2008-08-10 - a day that will live in infamy!



Draco Rosso
Caldari
Draconian Armada
Posted - 2010.10.11 07:11:00 - [280]
 

Based on what I seen so far Nibbletek seems to be an EU timezone corp. It still doesn't affect the USTZ, where the Gals have a solid upper hand. Caldari militia has been more competitive (don’t laugh its true) during the EU timezone in the last couple of months. IBS and with the recent addition of Draketrain both of which are EU timezone based corps. I wonder if Bi-polar had any Intel on Nibbletek’s entry into faction warfare? What they will do now that they actually have a strong corp. to test thier mantle against? Anyways it doesn’t matter, what I want to know is can GalMil EUTZ hold out for the next couple of weeks? Or will the Gals be forced to stay docked in HQ while thier FCs/Leadership mysteriously go afk? Of course nibbletek could get bored/take heavy losses and leave the Cal Mil, then we could be back at square one again. I'll revisit this thread in two weeks for the answers.

BacardiDesire
Perkone
Posted - 2010.10.11 08:00:00 - [281]
 

Originally by: Draco Rosso
Based on what I seen so far Nibbletek seems to be an EU timezone corp. It still doesn't affect the USTZ, where the Gals have a solid upper hand. Caldari militia has been more competitive (don’t laugh its true) during the EU timezone in the last couple of months. IBS and with the recent addition of Draketrain both of which are EU timezone based corps. I wonder if Bi-polar had any Intel on Nibbletek’s entry into faction warfare? What they will do now that they actually have a strong corp. to test thier mantle against? Anyways it doesn’t matter, what I want to know is can GalMil EUTZ hold out for the next couple of weeks? Or will the Gals be forced to stay docked in HQ while thier FCs/Leadership mysteriously go afk? Of course nibbletek could get bored/take heavy losses and leave the Cal Mil, then we could be back at square one again. I'll revisit this thread in two weeks for the answers.


highlighted parts that I personally and my corp found funny
their personal issues they initialy left for was the 8th order. Certain pilots in our corp aren't on the bi-po ''liked'' list so we received a wardec.
we expected to be bashed to death by them and did quite feared them in the start
current effeciency on our campaign against bi-po: 13 Ships killed (1.45B ISK) 3 Ships lost (0.2B ISK) 87.86% Efficiency (ISK)

All in All we are a bit unstatisfied with bi-po gangs (tho we only have seen two or three), we thought they where capable of doing insane stuff
at the point of writing this the wardec is on a slow part it seems, both parties haven't met in the weekend we'll see how it goes trough the week tho :)

anyway, we'll see if they either pick it up again or leave back to tama in the next week(s)Smile

Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2010.10.11 08:04:00 - [282]
 

Caldari competiive in the eu tz? You are having a laugh tbh mate, other than draketrain there's been virtually buggerall to shoot at for ages - Ibs seem to have gone very quiet and there's very few squiddy fleets around.

Nibbletek are very much welcome, we had a battle with them on Friday night where we got royally bummed and other than that it's been an odd skirmish and station games. Not been any smack just some fun banter too. We had them camped in the nis station for most of yesterday (to be fair our fleet ended up being a little too big in the end and don't blame them for not playing).

Really hoping that this inspires the rest of the squids to grow some balls and start to come out to fight more.

Aerilis
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.10.11 17:08:00 - [283]
 

Oh damn nibbletek wiped the floor with our guys in that battle summary.

I gotta try to log in earlier :)

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.10.11 17:30:00 - [284]
 

Originally by: Gallactica
We had them camped in the nis station for most of yesterday (to be fair our fleet ended up being a little too big in the end and don't blame them for not playing).


Psst Nibbletek: Maybe you could lead some general militia fleets to get more numbers and raise the game of the caldari to a whole new level!

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.10.11 17:42:00 - [285]
 

Originally by: chatgris
Psst Nibbletek: Maybe you could lead some general militia fleets to get more numbers and raise the game of the caldari to a whole new level!
Don't listen to this guy. He's a cheater.

Remember 2008-08-10!

Quendishir
Caldari
The Immortal Dawn
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:23:00 - [286]
 

Originally by: Draco Rosso
Based on what I seen so far Nibbletek seems to be an EU timezone corp. It still doesn't affect the USTZ, where the Gals have a solid upper hand. Caldari militia has been more competitive (don’t laugh its true) during the EU timezone in the last couple of months. IBS and with the recent addition of Draketrain both of which are EU timezone based corps. I wonder if Bi-polar had any Intel on Nibbletek’s entry into faction warfare? What they will do now that they actually have a strong corp. to test thier mantle against? Anyways it doesn’t matter, what I want to know is can GalMil EUTZ hold out for the next couple of weeks? Or will the Gals be forced to stay docked in HQ while thier FCs/Leadership mysteriously go afk? Of course nibbletek could get bored/take heavy losses and leave the Cal Mil, then we could be back at square one again. I'll revisit this thread in two weeks for the answers.


I'm not going to go into Nibbletek's entry into faction warfare for the moment because I haven't had the pleasure of engaging them yet. I'm hoping I'll be in a fleet that will turn give me that soon. ;)

However, I am speaking up about your claim that I.BS "challenges" the Gallente militia in any way. HiddenSnake's fleets haven't been fleets for battle. Rather, he simply puts together a fleet who's main intent is to blob single pilots or small gangs. Any wind of a gang/fleet roughly his fleet's size and in equal ships has him scurrying for a station to dock up.

07 Oct: HiddenSnake brings out a fleet of about 15 to 27 (I can't exactly recall numbers) pilots, mostly battleships with some ECM and logistics support. A fleet is quickly formed and undocked before the fleet makes it to Heyd. Once HiddenSnake sees there's a lot of undocked ships with his alt, he quickly turns tail and runs. In a Vagabond, I (on my alt) quickly give chase, providing intel as a forward scout of sorts. In Deven, I happen to run into them on the Fliet gate. I was sure I was going to die. Aligning and resolving myself to a fight, I find myself warping to the out gate (Rakapas, was it?), not being pointed by any fast tackle.

I follow them two more jumps before I start the trash talk. HiddenSnake keeps up his usual "You guys were running from us! Your fleets suck!" talk, and I ask who was running. Two Megathrons from our "fleet" apparently ran from him. Our fleet, I might add, had specifically been ordered to use battlecruisers and below, though two RR Domis were present. He also gave me the usual "Gallente don't fight" routine. I promised him - assured him, even! - that a Gallente fleet of battlecruisers and below would be present in two minutes time. Suddenly, HiddenSnake had to go to bed. He had docked up and said "good night". Not thirty seconds later, I was undocking and providing a warp-in to the undock on the station for the Gallente militia fleet. At this point, we knew it was station games, so we tried to kill a few. But we couldn't - they docked up.

HiddenSnake doesn't challenge the Gallente militia in the least. He won't FC a fleet willing to fight; indeed, his ships tend to have war core stabilizers or cloaks on them. When a fleet is noticed, he'll run.

As for Drakerain: they won't jump into you. They warp into a gate at range with their drakes, Scimitars, and Falcons and attempt to bait us into jumping into them. We have done it once or twice with relatively positive results. Gallente militia tactics are changing to counter this type of warfare. Just remember this, Damar.

Frozen Light
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:27:00 - [287]
 

We dont use falcons in lowsec. And who in their right mind would jump to a bs blob with bc's when you are outnumbered 2:1.

Quendishir
Caldari
The Immortal Dawn
Posted - 2010.10.11 18:46:00 - [288]
 

Originally by: Frozen Light
We dont use falcons in lowsec. And who in their right mind would jump to a bs blob with bc's when you are outnumbered 2:1.


I'm sorry, but the two Falcons and one Blackbird last time speaks otherwise.

Second, anyone with balls and looking to have fun will.

Quendishir
Caldari
The Immortal Dawn
Posted - 2010.10.11 21:45:00 - [289]
 

11 October 2010, 2140 GCT

Hidden Snake leads a fleet of battleships and logistic support into Heydelies. Sixteen battleships and logistics met up against thirteen Gallente militia in battlecruisers, a single Blackbird and a Rook, as well as one Scimitar. Taking some limited damage, Hidden Snake gives the order to jump through to Fliet, ignoring combat with Gallente militia members.

Anya Klibor jumped after to get recon on targets. Being pointed, he was able to evade and outrun multiple interceptors without scrams and warp away. Caldari fleet failed to follow and ran through to Deven. Gallente militia FC decided not to follow at this point, as it was deemed a pointless venture.

Admiral Hawke
Failed Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.10.11 22:15:00 - [290]
 

Edited by: Admiral Hawke on 11/10/2010 22:18:33
Originally by: Quendishir


I'm not going to go into Nibbletek's entry into faction warfare for the moment because I haven't had the pleasure of engaging them yet. I'm hoping I'll be in a fleet that will turn give me that soon. ;)




Being a corporation that had the pleasure of fighting them(ABP), and getting horribly owned(us)...the Gallente should be excited to get to fight with them, they'll put out some serious damage. Nice to see well-known pvp corporation join the Caldari side, even though they'll probably work within their own circle.

Quendishir
Caldari
The Immortal Dawn
Posted - 2010.10.12 00:37:00 - [291]
 

Originally by: Admiral Hawke
Edited by: Admiral Hawke on 11/10/2010 22:18:33
Originally by: Quendishir


I'm not going to go into Nibbletek's entry into faction warfare for the moment because I haven't had the pleasure of engaging them yet. I'm hoping I'll be in a fleet that will turn give me that soon. ;)




Being a corporation that had the pleasure of fighting them(ABP), and getting horribly owned(us)...the Gallente should be excited to get to fight with them, they'll put out some serious damage. Nice to see well-known pvp corporation join the Caldari side, even though they'll probably work within their own circle.


I hope so! Aside from you guys, there aren't any groups willing to fight the Gallente militia in fleet to fleet engagements. It's actually really disconcerting. :(

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.10.12 07:16:00 - [292]
 

Originally by: Quendishir
Aside from you guys, there aren't any groups willing to fight the Gallente militia in fleet to fleet engagements. It's actually really disconcerting. :(


Could be worse. There was no entity in Gallente militia who would engage a Draep weekend fleet unless we wait for 4 hours and let you people gather carriers and whatnot as security blanket.

Then again, I assume that **** rises to ones head quickly in Gallente militia as even young characters with hardly any skills or kills smack in forums and in local how epic their side is. I think Qunendishirs comment above about being willing to lose fleet in stupid manner is pretty telling example.

Or how Chatgris was thinking himself epic when he tried to chase my solo blackbird in his Harbinger. What's the Chattie boy, not enough noobs to gank in Tama?

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

Quendishir
Caldari
The Immortal Dawn
Posted - 2010.10.12 07:48:00 - [293]
 

Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Quendishir
Aside from you guys, there aren't any groups willing to fight the Gallente militia in fleet to fleet engagements. It's actually really disconcerting. :(


Could be worse. There was no entity in Gallente militia who would engage a Draep weekend fleet unless we wait for 4 hours and let you people gather carriers and whatnot as security blanket.


First off, there's a typo in my original post that you quoted. It should be "many", not "any". I didn't want to single Draketrain out because you guys do - sometimes - bring fights. I was mainly going to let that be a subtle barb at I.BS and HiddenSnake.

With that being said, your "fleets" consist of sniper Drakes with logistics support. You pretty much use your neutral eyes to keep an eye on us and sit at gates at range. That's fine. We have not, however, hot-dropped Carriers on any Caldari militia fleet in recent history. In fact, the FCs I have been with are loathe to drop them for multiple reasons:

1.) The presence of a carrier or other capital ship sends every Caldari fleet scurrying for cover. To drop a carrier on you guys is tantamount to only claiming the field, yet no kills.

2.) The presence of a carrier on the field will alert pirate factions that the Caldari are friendly with - and we know you guys are, because we have come across multiple pirate/Caldari gate camps in the past - to counter-drop. We're not going to sacrifice a carrier for nothing.

Lastly, you're pointing to the weekend. Seriously, the weekend? You can't point to the weekdays, because we do come out to meet you. However, all it is in EPEEN is Draketrain begging - that's right, I said begging - the Gallente fleet to jump into them. You fit for range and expect us to play on your terms. You bring enough neutral logistics, why not fit up for close range bombardment and fight?

Answer: because you know you'll lose.

Quote:
Then again, I assume that **** rises to ones head quickly in Gallente militia as even young characters with hardly any skills or kills smack in forums and in local how epic their side is. I think Qunendishirs comment above about being willing to lose fleet in stupid manner is pretty telling example.


You're right. I have hardly any skill points or kills in relation to you and the majority of EVE players. I admit, I'm new to the game. Guilty as charged. Bring on the iron maiden, for my fresh, young character has no right to talk back to the great Brigadegeneral like this! How dare I raise my voice to...okay, I'm dropping this charade; it's actually starting to hurt my head.

Is there anything else you'd like to toss out? Would you like to insult my military service? How about the fact I have acne? Or that I currently live with my mother while I attend college? How about the fact that I play Magic: the Gathering? Would you like to attack any of my family embers while you're at it? My nephew with Down's syndrome? Hm? Anything?

When all you can fall back on is "You're new lawl and got nothing to hold on to in this game", it is in fact you who has nothing to grasp. My limited amount of kills I have is fie with me. I sit quite content on my current status, as I am six months into the game and have the balls to venture into low sec to PvP, rather than stay in high sec and build up a war chest until I have more skills.

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Or how Chatgris was thinking himself epic when he tried to chase my solo blackbird in his Harbinger. What's the Chattie boy, not enough noobs to gank in Tama?

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General



Not enough noobs in Draketrain, honestly. Just remember this, Damar.

Patrick M. Fahey,
First Lieutenant, United States Marine Corps

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.10.12 09:44:00 - [294]
 

Originally by: Quendishir
Patrick M. Fahey,
First Lieutenant, United States Marine Corps


I was going to take apart your arguments but this was just so ridiculous fall back that I have no need. Also, do you have something against sexual minorities or our esteemed CEO's Lacco & Bad Messenger?

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General (not in rl though)

BacardiDesire
Perkone
Posted - 2010.10.12 09:56:00 - [295]
 

militia office > resign corporation from militia

it's the best way trust meCool

Quendishir
Caldari
The Immortal Dawn
Posted - 2010.10.12 10:19:00 - [296]
 

Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Quendishir
Patrick M. Fahey,
First Lieutenant, United States Marine Corps


I was going to take apart your arguments but this was just so ridiculous fall back that I have no need. Also, do you have something against sexual minorities or our esteemed CEO's Lacco & Bad Messenger?

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General (not in rl though)



My sign-off was more directed at your constant use of the whole in-game rank and name, as if it truly matters. It was also a snipe at you seeming to think that my in-game persona seems to be the most important thing, and in fact you quickly pointed out my lack of time and kills in-game as a quick fall-back.

Second, no. I have no problems with homosexuals; I have quite a few gay and bisexual friends. What I have a problem with is people who come on the forums and flaunt around their e-peen, but when told "bring it" they back out and hide behind the "You didn't come to us so we win because you're cowards!" approach. I see it daily with HiddenSnake and yourself, and to be honest those that are unwilling to commit more often than once every blue moon to a run - suicide or not - get no respect from me.

You have claimed - multiple times, I might add - that your corporation is something notable in faction warfare. You claim that you are more organized than the Gallente militia, and you flaunt the fact that you have "run the Gallente out of Villore". Yet for all that, you don't have the cajones to lead a group into a fight. You're set to snipe and - should something get with-in point range - run.

So, do something remarkable. Put your money where your mouth is. Lead a fleet that is willing to go into combat against an enemy without needing to stay off a gate at range. Lead a group of battlecruisers into a numerically-superior battleship fleet and win. Or hell, lose! Lord knows we've done that on multiple occasions and had fun to boot! Because as far as I - and many in the Gallente militia - are concerned, you're nothing but a HiddenSnake. You're all talk, no fight.

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.10.12 10:45:00 - [297]
 

Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 12/10/2010 10:46:22
Originally by: Quendishir
It was also a snipe at you seeming to think that my in-game persona seems to be the most important thing, and in fact you quickly pointed out my lack of time and kills in-game as a quick fall-back.


This was directed to multiple people in Gallente militia, such as saltyandsweet who smack in local all the time and say they are best pvp'ers in the game and then fit Prophecys with sebos, afterburners and t1 pulses Laughing

Originally by: Quendishir
Yet for all that, you don't have the cajones to lead a group into a fight. You're set to snipe and - should something get with-in point range - run.


We did that, but people refused to fit their ships to our fleet parameters, instead wanting to be unique and wonderful snowflakes (= fly failfits) so we stopped doing it and nowadays only accept trusted persons into fleet. If general militia wants to keep dying with silly fits, we dont want to have anything to do with it.

Also, if we can tackle you outside your point range, why should we need to come close enough for some slow-ass blaster boat to hit us? Is this the Ehonor thing Gallentes are on about all the time?

Originally by: Quendishir
Lead a group of battlecruisers into a numerically-superior battleship fleet and win.


We've done it multiple times, though admittely in this example they had more bc than us with battleship support. But you can always use an excuse (gallentes always have one) like "They were not in same corp, just alliance so of course they did not coordinate, they just all happened to rush you at once."

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2010.10.12 11:56:00 - [298]
 

Originally by: BacardiDesire
militia office > resign corporation from militia

it's the best way trust meCool
sad but true ... well number of tards and homorable warriors did not change on frog side unfortunately.

Miht Virtaq
Gallente
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2010.10.12 12:36:00 - [299]
 

On a very important side topic: Did you folks notice that the past 2 days were binary dates? 10/10/10 and 11/10/10

(I'm bored at work and I ran out of popcorn and flame posts)

Bad Messenger
draketrain
Posted - 2010.10.12 12:45:00 - [300]
 

Originally by: Quendishir
...bla bla...


Dear Quendishir. EVE is game where is lot of ways to fight. Gallente plays one of them that is closerange BS fleet. Gallente has more BS pilots that Caldari, Example i am can not fly any other BS than Raven and that is something that can not beat easily any close range BS fleet.

But Gallente has one problem with their Fleet. If they have to encounter anything else than similiar fleet, they are in trouble. They cant catch anything, they can not do dps on range, they just sit still and tank on gate.

So now tell me something. How it is so awesome that only thing you can do is stand on the gate and possibly tank enemy?

Fact is that gallente has whole FW time told how awesome pvpers they are, but they are awesome only what comes to blobbing on tama/oms pipe. Actual FW was originally planned to happen in FW complexes / on bunkers, You lost that one, because your fleets did not manange to do anything in those.

Now when you did not want to play FW like it was ment, you cry how you do not get fights. Elsewhere people evolve and thinks new possibilities to get fights, you just camp tama and nisuwa with you superior blob.

Have a fun in there !



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