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SilverwingX0
Posted - 2010.07.02 21:42:00 - [1]
 

So I used to play eve back in fall of 09 but I couldn't truly get the hang of things and had some other stuff going on at the time, so I left. I recently came back wanting to truly learn the game because it just looks just so damn amazing and I love space MMO's. This time I brought a friend with me. So since I don't know exactly what there is to do in groups of 2's me still being a noob with a friend in tow, I was hoping a few of you awesome vets can give me a few examples on what I can do with my buddy, that would be both useful for us in game and fun.

We both used to play a lot of other MMOs, the most obvious being WoW. And over there you can just hope into the nearest area and just kill random crap for small change and practice working on your rotations and abilities and just straight up learning the system. I was wondering also if there is something like that here where some friends can just go out and kill some things together, or even run missions together. I greatly appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. :)

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2010.07.02 22:04:00 - [2]
 

You can create a player corporation and the both of you can run missions, do exploration and run the sites, run DED Deadspace Complexes, do mining, Can even do PvP.

My advice is for both of you to each do the tutorial/career agent missions (Eve Help = F12 Key). Get all the skillbooks, ships, modules, implants, etc, that those missions give out. Then when both of you have completed all the missions for the 5 Career Agents, go do the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc. One person (You) can get the mission offer and then both of you can complete the mission as a team, then your friend get's the same mission offer and both of you complete it again. Move on to the next agent mission in the arc. That way you'll both receive max standings and isk while having extra help on the missions.

SilverwingX0
Posted - 2010.07.02 22:27:00 - [3]
 

Exactly what I was looking for thank you very much. :D

Predux Draconis
Posted - 2010.07.03 11:59:00 - [4]
 

Hi Silverwing, like you I'm somewhat new to Eve, and like you I've got a friend in tow. We're running level 2 and 3 missions. He's piloting cruisers and I'm capable of flying battle cruisers. We've only just recently started to taking on specific roles, he the tank and I the repper (aka healer in wow slang). I think it would be great to have a couple of frigate pilots to round out our little fleet. Maybe the four of us can team up sometime. Add me to your watch list.

Ramiera DaMorre
Posted - 2010.07.03 13:42:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Predux Draconis
(aka healer in wow slang)


This just in: WoW invented healers and the word "healer"!

Kassa Daito
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.03 20:51:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Kassa Daito on 03/07/2010 20:51:58
Originally by: Predux Draconis
We've only just recently started to taking on specific roles, he the tank and I the repper (aka healer in wow slang). I think it would be great to have a couple of frigate pilots to round out our little fleet. Maybe the four of us can team up sometime. Add me to your watch list.

This is not WoW... GTFO noob! ;)

Now that I have the obligatory statement out of the way (required every time someone compares WoW to EVE on the forums), I can actually post something constructive.

You're slightly misunderstanding the roles in EVE. Up until you get into Level 5s, wormhole space, high-end nullsec PLEXes, or PVP you don't need remote repair of any kind. You can and probably should specialize your ships but the roles you need for missions are Tank, DPS, and anti-frigate DPS. One ship can actually do all 3 well once you get better skills and the ISK to invest in some mid to high-end ships and fittings but specialization helps early on and in groups.

You need 1 ship with a high active tank. To permatank a full wave in 4s, you need around 600-ish DPS tanked. This ship can also do decent DPS if you fit it properly but it does need to be the first ship to fire at groups. Other ships need a decent tank (enough to survive being hit by a wave now and then). If you have good drone skills (or are still in cruisers and battlecruisers), then you don't need anything else for frigs.

Everyone in your group needs to read the mission profile on http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports and pay attention to the triggers and ships that do the various types of ewar.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2010.07.04 00:56:00 - [7]
 

In WoW, there are clearly defined roles due to character class and talent specialisation. In EVE Online, there are clearly defined roles due to ship class and skill specialisation. In mission running and low-end PvP there is not so much need for specialised "healers" (in EVE we call them "logistics pilots" because that's the class of ship they pilot: Logistics, being Basilisk, Guardian, Scimitar and Oneiros).

When a new player is coming from WoW, I see no problem with referring to the vernacular used in that game. No, WoW did not invent the terms, but they are "WoW slang" as opposed to "EVE slang".

When running level 4 missions with underskilled pilots, it can help immeasurably to have one pilot flying an Osprey or Exequror who is focussed on logistics training (shield/armour transfer, Caldari/Gallente cruiser, capacitor skills), or have all pilots capable of remote repping each other, flying underskilled battleships.

Other than throwing in a mention to the Making ISK guide as a means to support the acquisition of new ships and weapons as you lose them in PvP (which is what the game is really about), I'll just suggest that DeMichael's post is pretty much spot on.


 

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