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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.05 14:03:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 05/07/2010 14:03:58
Originally by: Takseen


On the off chance this isn't a troll, no, you can't kill frigs with the largest guns even with all Vs, except when they're burning directly towards you with 0 traversal. Once they've got to sub-5km orbit range and have you webbed down, even the short range family(pulses/blasters/ACs) of large guns haven't a hope of hitting them.




Wrong.

1. Use Standard or Faction Webifier (even unbonused)on Frigate.
2. Activate AB and try to get at least 10km distance
3. Activate the 800mm Autocannons
4. Profit


Granted the chance to hit and the hit quality is still poor but good enough to destroy a Frig with one or two volleys.

Takseen
Posted - 2010.07.05 14:14:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 05/07/2010 14:03:58
Originally by: Takseen


On the off chance this isn't a troll, no, you can't kill frigs with the largest guns even with all Vs, except when they're burning directly towards you with 0 traversal. Once they've got to sub-5km orbit range and have you webbed down, even the short range family(pulses/blasters/ACs) of large guns haven't a hope of hitting them.




Wrong.

1. Use Standard or Faction Webifier (even unbonused)on Frigate.
2. Activate AB and try to get at least 10km distance
3. Activate the 800mm Autocannons
4. Profit


Granted the chance to hit and the hit quality is still poor but good enough to destroy a Frig with one or two volleys.



Yep good point about being able to web the frig. Even then you need to get some distance on them which can be difficult if they're also webbing you. But that trick works almost as well with Motion Prediction I or II, contrary to what the person I was replying to seemed to imply. Motion Prediction V won't magically allow your large guns to hit frigs all on its own.

Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2010.07.05 15:14:00 - [33]
 

Kill as many as you can while they burn towards you, at zero transversal they pretty much instapop. You are using autos though so your range is short. Other than that its decent drones or web/painter combo.

Harkwyth Mist
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.07.05 15:15:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Harkwyth Mist on 05/07/2010 15:17:12
Originally by: Oylmpia
Thanks for the tips!

I suppose light drones are better at killing small frigates though, or do medium drones have good enough tracking, speed & gun signature radius to deal with them?


Frigate -> Light Drone
Cruiser/BC -> Medium Drone
BS -> Heavy/Sentry Drone

is a general guide on what drone to use for best effect.
Good levels of drone skills allow you move the above guide markers up/down an extra level .. ie
Frigate -> Light/Medium Drone

with only a 100m3 of dronebay Heavy/Sentry drones arent an option for you, but you can go with L/M (flights) -- 4/0 or 2/1 or 0/2.

Drone Interfacing V
Combat Drone Op IV
Gallente/Caldari Drone Spec IV (1 or both)
Drones V
Drone Sharpshooting IV
Drone Navigation IV
Scout Drone Op V

will make Medium Drones effective against everything.
Add Durability IV if you find you keep missing your drones getting attacked.

Drones are a valid source of DPS, never overlook a ships Dronebay.

Ehranavaar
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.05 16:20:00 - [35]
 

another thing you might try is using a missile launcher or two. an assault launcher with fof missiles requires no real attention once started and eats up frigates at a decent rate.
i've had good results with a cruise fof launcher but my missile skills are excellent.

Starbuck
Caldari
Goldadler Enterprises
The Seventh Legion
Posted - 2010.07.05 23:22:00 - [36]
 

I like to do level 4's with my rokh fitted with 8 425s. So I like range :) As a rsult all that speed means nothing. Especialyl after they turn on their MWD's. I jsut have to target tehm first. usuallythe only time I have problems is when I'm forced into the center of them. Even then I may still get one but Droens are my only recourse after that. fortunatly I can tank all day so it really isn't a huge issue. I'm careful with my drones and carry extras just incase my first set gets destroyed.

Hohenheim OfLight
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.07.06 10:21:00 - [37]
 

Carrier filled to brim with drones and fighters with tractor and salvager fitted to the highs and fraction fit armour tank, works every time.

Noran Ferah
Red Sky Morning
Posted - 2010.07.06 13:30:00 - [38]
 

Guns work, missiles too.

Blastrodamus
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:50:00 - [39]
 

precision cruise missiles take down frigs and elite frigs just fine, usually one or two volleys.

Misanthra
Posted - 2010.07.07 03:44:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Misanthra on 07/07/2010 05:09:42
Guns, missiles, bombs, even pointy sticks will work lol.


Drones jsut make it more efficient. Personal preferred method I have is let the small stuff play with my drones though and let big weapons kill big targets. Is better imo and removes some managing. Depending on range of course you usually get your bs's way the hell out and fast mover frigs close. Pop lights (or even mediums, work decent on frigs, great on cruisers) drones will go to town on close by targets first while you pick off the farther off targets. Might want to watch them a bit to keep em on same targert or bump up a scram/jam/neut rat up in the priority list (maybe webs...me I laugh when they web...oh noze, there went the speed tank on my drake/raven...I am doomed).

Ghaylenty
Posted - 2010.07.07 08:40:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Takseen
Originally by: Xenuria
OR...

You can train your combat skills

Motion Prediction 4 or 5
sharpshooter 3

having these skills will mean you can kill frigs even with the largest guns.




On the off chance this isn't a troll, no, you can't kill frigs with the largest guns even with all Vs, except when they're burning directly towards you with 0 traversal. Once they've got to sub-5km orbit range and have you webbed down, even the short range family(pulses/blasters/ACs) of large guns haven't a hope of hitting them.




Set default 'Keep at Distance' distance to 1,000,000km.
Activate MWD.
Press Keep at Distance
???
PROFIT!

Green Gloy
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:39:00 - [42]
 

Drones are definately most effective and flexible.

However I also favour a Faction Smartbomb on my Machariel, it's nice to see 10 frigs go pop at once while I'm shooting the BS's at range Very Happy

Anything outside the SB range comes into the 800mm Autocanons domain.


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