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JacobsGladedage
Posted - 2010.06.29 14:48:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Sylthi
I mean, for a game that is SO heavy in math and physics, you think they could come up with more accurate time estimates.

Predicting the future is lunacy, not math. :p

Anslo
Disciples of Night
Dominion of Darkness
Posted - 2010.06.29 14:49:00 - [92]
 

If you don't like the wait time, leave. Don't you have something better to do than whining about a company's patch days and being a little late? Seriously people get lives.

You all don't know a single thing about running a company, let alone what it takes to deploy various fixes, additions and new programs (i.e. SP pool distribution). It's not easy, so give them time. I swear it's the same everyday, you lot just get more and more impatient.

"Give us compensation!" "CCP is a horrid company!" "You idiots can't do anything right!"
Honestly, if you think that way, take your money somewhere else. We don't need whining and b****ing here again and again every patch day. Go play an offline game or something that has no downtime at all, I'm sure that would be more to your liking. Don't forget to contract me your stuff on the way out. :)

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2010.06.29 14:51:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Well no, since there are always going to be unexpected problems that come up. What they should do is estimate a completion time far greater than what it will actually take, rather than being optimistic and failing.


Thanks for the feedback, but I really should have done a /sarcasm on and /sarcasm off switch, because I was being VERY sarcastic.

TBH, I am shocked that CCP is compensating us ANYTHING. In the 7 years I have been here this is the most meaningful compensation I can EVER remember them having done. I mean, they have credited the entire customer base a day or two of time in the past, but back-dated SP is MUCH better.

So, yeah, I can wait. It's just sadly funny is all that you'd THINK there would have been some pressure for them to meet the deadline this time.

Cheers!

David Grogan
Gallente
The Motley Crew Reborn
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2010.06.29 14:53:00 - [94]
 

patch available to dl but server not allowing connections yet

Phosphorus Palladium
Posted - 2010.06.29 14:53:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Sylthi
TBH, I am shocked that CCP is compensating us ANYTHING. In the 7 years I have been here this is the most meaningful compensation I can EVER remember them having done...


They are doing it because.... EVE IS DYING!
It is pure and utter desperation.

kasi hasi
Posted - 2010.06.29 14:54:00 - [96]
 

There is one single question. Why they are setting the expected downtime every time too early. Everyone would be happy if they say:" Ok guys extended downtime till 15:00 UTC and they finish their job at 14:30 and not one hour here and one additional there. Next time CCP when you announce an expected downtime end publish the time you need and not the time you think it takes in a perfect world :). This is no flame no whine only a suggestion.

mfg

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2010.06.29 14:59:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: JacobsGladedage
Originally by: Sylthi
I mean, for a game that is SO heavy in math and physics, you think they could come up with more accurate time estimates.

Predicting the future is lunacy, not math. :p


True. But constantly failing at job-time completion estimates isn't lunacy, in just plain incompetence; no matter how you slice it. Wink

SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
Posted - 2010.06.29 14:59:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Anslo
If you don't like the wait time, leave. Don't you have something better to do than whining about a company's patch days and being a little late? Seriously people get lives.

You all don't know a single thing about running a company, let alone what it takes to deploy various fixes, additions and new programs (i.e. SP pool distribution). It's not easy, so give them time. I swear it's the same everyday, you lot just get more and more impatient.

"Give us compensation!" "CCP is a horrid company!" "You idiots can't do anything right!"
Honestly, if you think that way, take your money somewhere else. We don't need whining and b****ing here again and again every patch day. Go play an offline game or something that has no downtime at all, I'm sure that would be more to your liking. Don't forget to contract me your stuff on the way out. :)



Shocked oh so serious.

Ain't playing games so much fun Very Happy Cake anyone?

Look ya should all know CCP like nothing better than a Hamster sandwich at lunch, once they've eaten they will replace the server hamster's with fresh one's and all will be well again in the world/universe.

Should be. Estimated time of startup "Soon"

Tea/Coffee anyone?


Indimiel
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:00:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: kasi hasi
There is one single question. Why they are setting the expected downtime every time too early. Everyone would be happy if they say:" Ok guys extended downtime till 15:00 UTC and they finish their job at 14:30 and not one hour here and one additional there. Next time CCP when you announce an expected downtime end publish the time you need and not the time you think it takes in a perfect world :). This is no flame no whine only a suggestion.

mfg


Yeah, I find it an odd an irksome habit of theirs to extend the estimated downtime completion by like half an hour 4-5 times a patch. It makes you feel that the estimate is exact when they give an exact time a mere hour in the future, but that slips by and all you get is another adjusted estimate.

Seems kinda funny though that we are stuck grumbling over extended downtime deploying the reward system to compensate us for extended downtime, coz I saw precious little else in those patch notes...

Ivoto
Gallente
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:02:00 - [100]
 

15:00 now. Do I hear a 15:30?

Beduit
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:02:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
Originally by: Sylthi
TBH, I am shocked that CCP is compensating us ANYTHING. In the 7 years I have been here this is the most meaningful compensation I can EVER remember them having done...


They are doing it because.... EVE IS DYING!
It is pure and utter desperation.

When I quit EVE last year I would only see 30k players on. When I resubscribed last week there was 49k players on.
Dying? I think not.

SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:05:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: SNeAkYbRiT on 29/06/2010 15:11:06
Edited by: SNeAkYbRiT on 29/06/2010 15:05:50
Originally by: Indimiel
Seems kinda funny though that we are stuck grumbling over extended downtime deploying the reward system to compensate us for extended downtime, coz I saw precious little else in those patch notes...


Ya get a free ship too, i know it aint much. But hey, Cake?

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:05:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Ivoto
15:00 now. Do I hear a 15:30?


I'm confused. Which DAY did you mean? Today?..... Tomorrow?...... Laughing

David Grogan
Gallente
The Motley Crew Reborn
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:05:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: David Grogan on 29/06/2010 15:05:54
eve died years ago

she was a very old woman adam cried for a few days after :P

Your Client
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:05:00 - [105]
 

They mean 15:00 Wednesday

kasi hasi
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:06:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: kasi hasi on 29/06/2010 15:09:16
everytime i am waiting for the servers i hear this youtube

hf ^^

Ivoto
Gallente
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:08:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Your Client
They mean 15:00 Wednesday


Pretty much this.

skintsaint
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:10:00 - [108]
 

****s sake..

another evening of no eve due to an extended downtime.

why cant they vary the times of when they start these things.

now not due to come back online till midnight West Aussie time Evil or Very MadShocked

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:12:00 - [109]
 

Sniper: Ghost Warrior releases on Steam here in an hour so I guess I'll check out the stupid new ship tomorrow, have fun with the DT all Very Happy

fab24
Gallente
Tax Fraud Corporation
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:12:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: fab24 on 29/06/2010 15:12:30
16.00 HAHA!

Edit : Fail, again, CCP.

SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:13:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: skintsaint
****s sake..

another evening of no eve due to an extended downtime.

why cant they vary the times of when they start these things.

now not due to come back online till midnight West Aussie time Evil or Very MadShocked



lol shutup ya moaning pom

Biscuit?

Qnut
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:14:00 - [112]
 

bang, nn eve was fun waiting.

m3talc0re X
Caldari
SandStorm.
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:15:00 - [113]
 

Extended to 16:00 now. It'll probably get extended again, too.

Dont AFK
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:17:00 - [114]
 

come on guys its ccp... they extend downtime with an hour here and there... its open again 20:00 UTC

Ivoto
Gallente
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:17:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: m3talc0re X
Extended to 16:00 now. It'll probably get extended again, too.


17:00 I bet. They are giving the Primae one last coat of spray paint!

Marmios
Rim Collection RC
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:22:00 - [116]
 

I demand sp reimbursment for this delay :D

Noriko Rei
Venture Racing
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:25:00 - [117]
 

If I might be so bold as to make a constructive suggestion, perhaps the folks who estimate the downtime could adopt a policy of under-promising and over-delivering. Add 2-3 hours to the actual DT estimate to set people's expectations, and then when the servers are up before that, people marvel at the fact CCP always gets done faster than anticipated.

...or remove the time estimates altogether. The estimates create reasonable expectations, and missing the marks creates dissatisfaction that's wholly avoidable.

GoGo Rens
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:25:00 - [118]
 

Edited by: GoGo Rens on 29/06/2010 15:25:40
Originally by: GoGo Rens
16:00 hours is my bet.


This pasted from login screen,Extended downtime on June 29th 2010 for deployment of the Tyrannis 1.0.2 patch. Downtime will start at 11:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 16:00 UTC

Yay looks like im wining so far, unless they delay it more .Whats my prize?

Ivoto
Gallente
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:28:00 - [119]
 

Edited by: Ivoto on 29/06/2010 15:29:29
A disco-colored Primae!!Wink

Ka choop
Posted - 2010.06.29 15:29:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: skintsaint
****s sake..

another evening of no eve due to an extended downtime.

why cant they vary the times of when they start these things.

now not due to come back online till midnight West Aussie time Evil or Very MadShocked
There is a bit of unfairness in this, Australian players losing basically a day worth of play while a lot of Americans will just log in when they normally do, download the patch and don't notice any lost play.

So, would random downtimes be better? So it's not European players snatching all the nice ABC ores right after DT?


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