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jasper beamsalot
Ice Fire Warriors
Posted - 2010.07.06 03:12:00 - [61]
 

Edited by: jasper beamsalot on 06/07/2010 03:19:08
Originally by: Jive Bunny
OMG ICE FIRE WARRIORS
if ur ships not worth 100mill they Team Kill you


confirmed

Sneaky Noob
KA POW POW Inc
Posted - 2010.07.06 07:00:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: jasper beamsalot
Edited by: jasper beamsalot on 06/07/2010 03:19:08
Originally by: Jive Bunny
OMG ICE FIRE WARRIORS
if ur ships not worth 100mill they Team Kill you


confirmed


QFT

t1 rifter ****-fit fleet is that way -->

Augin Soric
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.07.06 08:40:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Augin Soric on 06/07/2010 08:46:57
Jalmon has probably caused more isk damage than all of the corps combined on his highsec raids, but even on kills alone the all time top killer for Minmatar is Tribal Liberation Force.
That's right, the NPC one.
...f*** me.

Lord Meriak
Amarr
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2010.07.06 10:00:00 - [64]
 

Amarrain Retribution with out a doubt one of the most consistent corps for the amarr.

With a solid member base and a record to back it up

eddie valvetino
Caldari
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.06 11:43:00 - [65]
 

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1330&view=corp_killshttp://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1330&view=corp_kills

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1330&view=corp_kills

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&view=corp_kills&m=5&all_id=1330&y=2010

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&view=corp_kills&m=4&all_id=1330&y=2010

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=awards

Sorry for all the links guys, but it's worth pointing out that the tops killers for FDU since Bi-Polar joined FDU has been us, every month with out fail, we are also higher than most of the other factions, on BC and Eve Arena.

The corp had been an alt corp since it's creation until it went active 4 months ago.

are we the best? in FW, we're pretty damn close, in our corner of the Gal/Cal conflict? with all due respect to both side... well yeah I think we are... if you base the "best" on pvp, if you base it on taking systems, we're not even in the running

but to be fair, there are very good corps on both sides. IBS and Pillow fighters stand out on the cal side, and SoTF and Qcats for FDU. any of these corps can give even the so called "pro pvp" 0.0 corps a run for their money.

I'm wearing my flame proof suit, so i'm ready for the back lash


Bad Messenger
draketrain
Posted - 2010.07.06 12:21:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: eddie valvetino
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1330&view=corp_killshttp://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1330&view=corp_kills

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1330&view=corp_kills

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&view=corp_kills&m=5&all_id=1330&y=2010

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&view=corp_kills&m=4&all_id=1330&y=2010

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=awards

Sorry for all the links guys, but it's worth pointing out that the tops killers for FDU since Bi-Polar joined FDU has been us, every month with out fail, we are also higher than most of the other factions, on BC and Eve Arena.

The corp had been an alt corp since it's creation until it went active 4 months ago.

are we the best? in FW, we're pretty damn close, in our corner of the Gal/Cal conflict? with all due respect to both side... well yeah I think we are... if you base the "best" on pvp, if you base it on taking systems, we're not even in the running

but to be fair, there are very good corps on both sides. IBS and Pillow fighters stand out on the cal side, and SoTF and Qcats for FDU. any of these corps can give even the so called "pro pvp" 0.0 corps a run for their money.

I'm wearing my flame proof suit, so i'm ready for the back lash




You seem to continue same method than WOLFY did, ***** to every mail and get nice stats ! http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7044094

You sure have some good players but mails like that boost your stats to high.

eddie valvetino
Caldari
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.06 12:39:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: eddie valvetino
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1330&view=corp_killshttp://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1330&view=corp_kills

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1330&view=corp_kills

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&view=corp_kills&m=5&all_id=1330&y=2010

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&view=corp_kills&m=4&all_id=1330&y=2010

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=awards

Sorry for all the links guys, but it's worth pointing out that the tops killers for FDU since Bi-Polar joined FDU has been us, every month with out fail, we are also higher than most of the other factions, on BC and Eve Arena.

The corp had been an alt corp since it's creation until it went active 4 months ago.

are we the best? in FW, we're pretty damn close, in our corner of the Gal/Cal conflict? with all due respect to both side... well yeah I think we are... if you base the "best" on pvp, if you base it on taking systems, we're not even in the running

but to be fair, there are very good corps on both sides. IBS and Pillow fighters stand out on the cal side, and SoTF and Qcats for FDU. any of these corps can give even the so called "pro pvp" 0.0 corps a run for their money.

I'm wearing my flame proof suit, so i'm ready for the back lash




You seem to continue same method than WOLFY did, ***** to every mail and get nice stats ! http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7044094

You sure have some good players but mails like that boost your stats to high.


hehehe hey BM :)

I get what you are saying KM *****s, hard to KM ***** youself to 500 kills per month above any other FDU corp Twisted Evil

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=7047356

and we are NOT wolfy or really anything like them, this born out by mails like the one you posted, we will fly with other corps... unlike a certain rather Finish corp I could mention :)

meh, just messing with ya mate, personally i have nothing but respect for pervs

Smabs
Posted - 2010.07.06 12:42:00 - [68]
 

Faction warfare gets a bit of an unjust reputation. To be honest I don't think their fits and tactics are any worse than a typical 0.0 alliance, although it runs on a smaller scale. The better fw corps are very competent.

All of the factions blob occasionally and have their fair share of risk averse people so it's a bit pointless arguing about that.

eddie valvetino
Caldari
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.06 12:48:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Smabs
Faction warfare gets a bit of an unjust reputation. To be honest I don't think their fits and tactics are any worse than a typical 0.0 alliance, although it runs on a smaller scale. The better fw corps are very competent.

All of the factions blob occasionally and have their fair share of risk averse people so it's a bit pointless arguing about that.


FW corps have already had some great pirate corps to test themselves against, be it BYDI and SWIGG in the north or BANE in the south, there has always been solid pvp corps to fight and you have CH and ADHD who are always a challenge and would be for any alliance or corp cluster wide

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2010.07.06 13:59:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: eddie valvetino
Originally by: Smabs
Faction warfare gets a bit of an unjust reputation. To be honest I don't think their fits and tactics are any worse than a typical 0.0 alliance, although it runs on a smaller scale. The better fw corps are very competent.

All of the factions blob occasionally and have their fair share of risk averse people so it's a bit pointless arguing about that.


FW corps have already had some great pirate corps to test themselves against, be it BYDI and SWIGG in the north or BANE in the south, there has always been solid pvp corps to fight and you have CH and ADHD who are always a challenge and would be for any alliance or corp cluster wide

this .... please allways consider we live in permanent meat grinder. in null u can live in system nowbody will visit as week long. In fw u either kill or die in 30 minutes after loggin or something wemt terribly wrong.

eddie valvetino
Caldari
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.06 14:06:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Hidden Snake
Originally by: eddie valvetino
Originally by: Smabs
Faction warfare gets a bit of an unjust reputation. To be honest I don't think their fits and tactics are any worse than a typical 0.0 alliance, although it runs on a smaller scale. The better fw corps are very competent.

All of the factions blob occasionally and have their fair share of risk averse people so it's a bit pointless arguing about that.


FW corps have already had some great pirate corps to test themselves against, be it BYDI and SWIGG in the north or BANE in the south, there has always been solid pvp corps to fight and you have CH and ADHD who are always a challenge and would be for any alliance or corp cluster wide

this .... please allways consider we live in permanent meat grinder. in null u can live in system nowbody will visit as week long. In fw u either kill or die in 30 minutes after loggin or something wemt terribly wrong.


signed... Snake has hit the nail squarely on the head here, FW gives a much high level of intensity than ANY other type of pvp.
if you haven't found a fight with in 10 jumps.. something is wrong, those that live in low sec (the real FW corps.. the likes of IBS and Bi-Po) will tell you this.

Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.06 14:34:00 - [72]
 

It's easy to be top of the killboards in factional warfare every month when you shoot everything that moves, even your own militia Laughing

Padinaui
Posted - 2010.07.06 14:44:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: Padinaui on 06/07/2010 14:44:53

Lock out
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2010.07.06 15:02:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
It's easy to be top of the killboards in factional warfare every month when you shoot everything that moves, even your own militia Laughing


We'll take that as a compliment :)

Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.06 15:42:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Lock out

We'll take that as a compliment :)


Very Happy

Joking aside, I'd be interested to see how other corps compare if they had a comparatively larger target pool in the same region, but that's theory crafting for you.

Sadly I don't think SotF will ever go pie under Galactica so we're stuck with -5's and war targets! ugh

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:09:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
It's easy to be top of the killboards in factional warfare every month when you shoot everything that moves, even your own militia Laughing

Neo Gabriel
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:13:00 - [77]
 

Not to diminish their obvious pvp supremacy, but I have been seeing bi-po farming offline pos modules to boost their stats. C/D?

Flyinghotpocket
ASPIRE Commandos
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:22:00 - [78]
 

Id say the amarr militia is good. (sorry galletee and caldari i have no information on you guys) All the amarr militia has to do is switch to different vent channels "hey guys we got the franchise with 10 cruisers plexing" and pretty soon they have a fleet of 30 guys ready to disembark the station and head out for some defense plexing.

Mean while we are constantly calling for memebers to come help us offensive plex with the promise of pvp. We can barely muster up 2 additional fleet members cause the minmatar is soooo clicky.

The franchise is working to better that reputation by being very accepting and helping out the militia.

eddie valvetino
Caldari
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:31:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: eddie valvetino on 06/07/2010 16:36:32
Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
It's easy to be top of the killboards in factional warfare every month when you shoot everything that moves, even your own militia Laughing


we can always shoot you too if you want Twisted Evil

and shooting 20 POSes mods a month (for reason other than stats), having an NBSI RoE and as BM put it whoring mails, still doesn't make up for the 500 to 600 more kills we get month on month. Take those "kills" away and you're still looking at 300 to 400 kills.

This month alone, when we have largely been isk making, on day 6 we are 120 kill ahead of the next best.

Ralnik
Alpha Squad
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:36:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Ralnik on 06/07/2010 16:51:18
Originally by: Augin Soric
Edited by: Augin Soric on 06/07/2010 08:46:57
Jalmon has probably caused more isk damage than all of the corps combined on his highsec raids, but even on kills alone the all time top killer for Minmatar is Tribal Liberation Force.
That's right, the NPC one.
...f*** me.


Yea you have to give him credit he does make the bad guys hurt in high sec.

Originally by: Smabs
Faction warfare gets a bit of an unjust reputation. To be honest I don't think their fits and tactics are any worse than a typical 0.0 alliance, although it runs on a smaller scale. The better fw corps are very competent.

All of the factions blob occasionally and have their fair share of risk averse people so it's a bit pointless arguing about that.


This TBH.. In low sec the "good" FW players and corps can easily hold their own with just about anyone in smaller gang skirmishes. However when it comes to the random mixed gangs in FW, they are like ex-Providence renters in most cases. Just lols waiting to happen.

It's not anyone's fault per say, because FW was designed to be a place for new members to get PVP experience and get into gang warfare with out having to move out to null sec far too young. This means there are a lot of people that have no real clue what they are doing and very little experience. Added to this they don't really have people to hold their hands as maybe they would in a larger corp/alliance.

This allows any organized corp with-in FW the ability to look really good against the random Militia noobs. Much the same as when the so called "l33t" PVPers of null sec, farm **** poor renters from alliance XYZ.

With this said, there are good PVPers in FW but also a lot of guys with nice stats, that wouldn't be able to shoot their way out of a paper bag with an Uzi, if not for the other 20 or 30 guys they are in fleet with.

Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:37:00 - [81]
 

haha yeah, that you can Razz

...but! You'll end up being booted from the militia at that rate Laughing

I popped a squid alt in the Gallente militia and the faction penalty was horrendous, not something I want to go near again ugh

eddie valvetino
Caldari
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:42:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Ralnik
Originally by: Augin Soric
Edited by: Augin Soric on 06/07/2010 08:46:57
Jalmon has probably caused more isk damage than all of the corps combined on his highsec raids, but even on kills alone the all time top killer for Minmatar is Tribal Liberation Force.
That's right, the NPC one.
...f*** me.


Yea you have to give him credit he does make the bad guys hurt in high sec.


you have Jalmon... i'll raise you Loren Gallen...

From Battle Clinic

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Jalmon
vs
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Loren+Gallen

From Eve Arena

http://eve-arena.com/pilots/Jalmon
vs
http://eve-arena.com/pilots/Loren+Gallen

Myself, I'm not even in Loren's league and yet i'm still some 6000 places above Jalmon on Battle Clinic and some 250 above him on eve arena.


Eelis Kiy
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:43:00 - [83]
 

Edited by: Eelis Kiy on 06/07/2010 16:43:06
Originally by: Rashmika Clavain

I popped a squid alt in the Gallente militia and the faction penalty was horrendous, not something I want to go near again ugh



Is that when we were hiding from the 6 way gangbang in Tar and Wuffwuff came to hide with us? It was soo worth it lol

/misses wuffwuff Sad

Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation
Posted - 2010.07.06 16:46:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Neo Gabriel
Not to diminish their obvious pvp supremacy, but I have been seeing bi-po farming offline pos modules to boost their stats. C/D?


For the record, last month we spent about 2 hours one evening blowing up about 80 offline pos modules and made ~ a billion isk for the corp, killmails are a bonus ... and it's worth noting we also finished the month around 450 kills clear at the top of the board, so it's not like we're particularly bolstering our stats with pos modules.

And Rash mate, yes our ROE is very much more leniant than shadows, however we actually don't do that many pirate specific roams and on the odd occasion we've had members of shadows with us going pirate (mentioning no names). Most of our kills do infact come from reds or squids. Besides There are other corps who happily pirate and get nowhere near the kills we get in a month.

Tekitha

Ralnik
Alpha Squad
Posted - 2010.07.06 17:03:00 - [85]
 

Edited by: Ralnik on 06/07/2010 17:23:08

Originally by: eddie valvetino
Originally by: Ralnik
Originally by: Augin Soric
Edited by: Augin Soric on 06/07/2010 08:46:57
Jalmon has probably caused more isk damage than all of the corps combined on his highsec raids, but even on kills alone the all time top killer for Minmatar is Tribal Liberation Force.
That's right, the NPC one.
...f*** me.


Yea you have to give him credit he does make the bad guys hurt in high sec.


you have Jalmon... i'll raise you Loren Gallen...

From Battle Clinic

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Jalmon
vs
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Loren+Gallen

From Eve Arena

http://eve-arena.com/pilots/Jalmon
vs
http://eve-arena.com/pilots/Loren+Gallen

Myself, I'm not even in Loren's league and yet i'm still some 6000 places above Jalmon on Battle Clinic and some 250 above him on eve arena.




Loren is a good PVPer there is no doubt about that. However he is also in a position to farm a hell of a lot of easy kills. As FW provides that in mass and he is awesome as taking advantage of this.

Loren is likely in the top 10% pilots in this game, but my biggest dislike of him is he loves those faction ships a bit too much. I can't say I blame him but that alone gives you and advantage over 90% of the average FW types that he farms all day.

That's just a personal Pet Peeve of mine, nothing wrong with him, I just hate the over abundance of faction frigs these days. To me it's not about the kill amounts but rather the quality of the kills and the challenge involved and the match up of the pilots average fights.

When you are flying faction/t2 ships all the time you already have advantage over the next guy in most cases, which reduces the risk and challenge involved.

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.07.06 17:21:00 - [86]
 

Even if you remove all of Ashenshugar's rifter of doom POS kms and Loren "Robo" Gallen from their kb, Bi-Po would still be at the top in kills.

Neu Bastian
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.07.06 17:31:00 - [87]
 

VlkG, before leaving to U'K, had either 1st or 2nd place in kills every month, at that time we had regular corp fleet ops at night that hwere really cohesive but also at least a member online in every timezone and likely in every fleet that formed. Rising to the top on those killboard is easy. I still look for kill quality rather than numbers, being pretty partial to solo roams of late.

Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.06 17:35:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Ralnik

Loren is a good PVPer there is no doubt about that. However he is also in a position to farm a hell of a lot of easy kills. As FW provides that in mass and he is awesome as taking advantage of this.

Loren is likely in the top 10% pilots in this game, but my biggest dislike of him is he loves those faction ships a bit too much. I can't say I blame him but that alone gives you and advantage over 90% of the average FW types that he farms all day.




While I agree that FW is really easy for farming killmails, I think your numbers are somewhat off - try top 0.01% m8 Neutral

Ralnik
Alpha Squad
Posted - 2010.07.06 17:47:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: Ralnik on 06/07/2010 17:50:23

Originally by: Raimo

While I agree that FW is really easy for farming killmails, I think your numbers are somewhat off - try top 0.01% m8 Neutral


Maybe.. Lets not forget Loren flys a hell of a lot and he is in the right place to get a hell of a lot of KM's as a good pilot and takes full advantage of that. I say top 10% because EVE has 300k subscribers (if I'm not mistaken) and they all don't fly 8 hours a day. Laughing

Meaning I'm quite sure there are a lot of talented pilots out there that aren't in the top 10 on BC, simply because they don't fly as much as some of the other guys or maybe they aren't in such target rich environments. With this in mind, I think top 10% is a fair number because there is much more to being a great pilot than just the number of kills on a KB.

Anyway 10%/1% is all just opinion really, but we are talking too much about individuals when this topic is about corps. Razz

eddie valvetino
Caldari
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.06 17:49:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: eddie valvetino on 06/07/2010 17:51:04
Originally by: Ralnik
Edited by: Ralnik on 06/07/2010 17:23:08

Originally by: eddie valvetino
Originally by: Ralnik
Originally by: Augin Soric
Edited by: Augin Soric on 06/07/2010 08:46:57
Jalmon has probably caused more isk damage than all of the corps combined on his highsec raids, but even on kills alone the all time top killer for Minmatar is Tribal Liberation Force.
That's right, the NPC one.
...f*** me.


Yea you have to give him credit he does make the bad guys hurt in high sec.


you have Jalmon... i'll raise you Loren Gallen...

From Battle Clinic

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Jalmon
vs
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Loren+Gallen

From Eve Arena

http://eve-arena.com/pilots/Jalmon
vs
http://eve-arena.com/pilots/Loren+Gallen

Myself, I'm not even in Loren's league and yet i'm still some 6000 places above Jalmon on Battle Clinic and some 250 above him on eve arena.




Loren is a good PVPer there is no doubt about that. However he is also in a position to farm a hell of a lot of easy kills. As FW provides that in mass and he is awesome as taking advantage of this.

Loren is likely in the top 10% pilots in this game, but my biggest dislike of him is he loves those faction ships a bit too much. I can't say I blame him but that alone gives you and advantage over 90% of the average FW types that he farms all day.

That's just a personal Pet Peeve of mine, nothing wrong with him, I just hate the over abundance of faction frigs these days. To me it's not about the kill amounts but rather the quality of the kills and the challenge involved and the match up of the pilots average fights.

When you are flying faction/t2 ships all the time you already have advantage over the next guy in most cases, which reduces the risk and challenge involved.


there is a word for guys like you.. now is it moron or n00b? not sure, but you post makes it clear just how mindless you are, well over 60% of Lorens kills are in High Sec, and in a Hype... or in frigs. what make loren as good as he is, is his unbellievable network of intel, understanding of game mechanics and patience, not some tactical advantage he has frm faction ships

More over, what kind of idiot, suggests that we should all fly T1?

I can only assume you're lack of skill makes you unable too, or you are very risk averse, either way... you're lacking in any credibility

jog on

p.s. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Ralnik

i'm laughing so hard, i'm gonna wet myself


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