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Posted - 2010.06.20 19:39:00 - [1]
 

So there is a mach pilot in my neck of the woods and he seems to be alone, but for the love of god I can't seem to catch him in anything I think I could kill him in so I come to ye forum gods for suggestions. Other than bring friends. As they can't catch him either!

Xiozor
THE PAROXYSM
Dark Solar Empire
Posted - 2010.06.20 19:55:00 - [2]
 

Nano-Curse with faction disruptor to keep out of heavy neut range.

I think that's the solution to most of the worlds problems actually.

The Djego
Minmatar
Hellequin Inc.
Posted - 2010.06.20 20:00:00 - [3]
 

Well solo a competent mach pilot is next to impossible(huge range, speed, Neut, Drones etc.).

Also the bring friends option should include a triple web Rapier and some TDs to shut down his DPS at range and some medium range damage stuff(Pest, CM Raven, Apoc etc.) so you can keep the DPS up with only one tackler.

Alternative bring a fast tackler, a Falcon and star fraction him.

Terazuk
Amarr
Servants of Drawnon
Posted - 2010.06.20 21:28:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Xiozor
Nano-Curse with faction disruptor to keep out of heavy neut range.

I think that's the solution to most of the worlds problems actually.


Will fail, guaranteed... He will still be faster :p Bhaalghorn might manage it but I doubt the guy will stick around to find out tbh. Dual propulsion TD/scram fitted cane perhaps? But still gotta get range first which will be an issue.

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2010.06.20 21:54:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Cpt Branko on 20/06/2010 22:08:35
Well, much like all angel ships, it gets to pick the fights it wants.

It all depends what he's willing to engage and what he won't and whether he has a scout or no. A Mach pilot with a scout will be hard to actually kill if he's being very careful what he engages, much in the same way it's very hard to actually kill anything which fights at 30-ish, has good disengagement options ,has a scout and is being very selective at what it engages. Typical bait and blob just doesn't work well vs ships like that.

Try killing a Bhaal, if he's normal he will be at 25-30, you will be webbed and have zero capacitor, so the typical bait and blob doesn't work so well.

Rionna stargazer
Posted - 2010.06.20 23:28:00 - [6]
 

Bring a mach yourself and just be... better
or use a titan

Skittnator
Caldari
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2010.06.21 00:56:00 - [7]
 

use a gang, solo pvp is fun and all but gang pvp is better in the fact that if you outnumber them, and your pilots in your gang are not ALL NUBLETS, you will win.

Mach Kill:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10264850

[PS, if you can't do this use a smaller maneuverable ship with tracking disruptors and neuts, a pilgrim or curse or whatever, but remember that his guns will still be able to fire as matari guns do not use cap.


Xiozor
THE PAROXYSM
Dark Solar Empire
Posted - 2010.06.21 08:33:00 - [8]
 

You can't use a failfit PvE Mach killmail as reference of how to kill a Mach :P

tib0
Posted - 2010.06.21 08:45:00 - [9]
 

maybe lachesis with 3x lockrange dampeners?? damp his locking range + tank his drones, but your dps is probably not enough

Kingwood
Amarr
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.06.21 08:55:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Skittnator
use a gang, solo pvp is fun and all but gang pvp is better in the fact that if you outnumber them, and your pilots in your gang are not ALL NUBLETS, you will win.

Mach Kill:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10264850

[PS, if you can't do this use a smaller maneuverable ship with tracking disruptors and neuts, a pilgrim or curse or whatever, but remember that his guns will still be able to fire as matari guns do not use cap.




I, too, am proud of killing a fail fitted PvE fitted faction BS with only an 11 man gang. o7o7o7

Marko Riva
Posted - 2010.06.21 09:23:00 - [11]
 

Mach's Achilles heel is locking range, damp him to fek with a Lachesis with faction scram using the proper gang links. Warp in Logistics to keep the Lach afloat from his drones together with the execution squad.

Solo, unless he's stupid (or you prove to be simply "better") not going to happen.


Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2010.06.21 11:07:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Skittnator
use a gang, solo pvp is fun and all but gang pvp is better in the fact that if you outnumber them, and your pilots in your gang are not ALL NUBLETS, you will win.

Mach Kill:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10264850

[PS, if you can't do this use a smaller maneuverable ship with tracking disruptors and neuts, a pilgrim or curse or whatever, but remember that his guns will still be able to fire as matari guns do not use cap.




Noob blobber fail.

When you kill it solo, you get better loot then when you do it with your 11-man failgang. Anyway, this is not a discussion on how to kill a pilot with a PVE fit or a pilot which does something wrong.



Kah Eli
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric
The Polaris Syndicate
Posted - 2010.06.21 12:27:00 - [13]
 

Or you could do it dystopia style:

1.warp in and tackle with a rapier
2.pop a cyno
3.drop an Aeon on top of the mach.


Ghaylenty
Posted - 2010.06.21 13:55:00 - [14]
 

taking on a machariel solo would be hard, the only way id consider it possible under normal circumstances would be to get under his guns with an AB daredevil and kill him that way.

Iteken Hotori
Minmatar
The Flowing Penguins
Posted - 2010.06.21 14:06:00 - [15]
 

There are 2 types of people that fly Machariels Solo.

The first type lose them on the first Nullsec gate they jump through, and you never get to try to hunt and / or engage them.

The second sort are pr0 in the truest sense (eg genos' Count MonteCarlo) who will simply kill you, or not engage you.


Emperor Ryan
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
Posted - 2010.06.22 08:39:00 - [16]
 

And this is an example of tackling a Genos Mac with a vaga, Lighting a cyno and WTF pwning them. ouch

Shade Millith
Caldari
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.06.22 09:35:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Shade Millith on 22/06/2010 09:36:25
Well, I did have SOME success on a mach with a dual TDing Drake, get in close, scramble, orbit close.

Didn't quite work as he had scram/web, and since he's faster, just pulled away and lowered transversal. Kinda went down hard afterwards. (Really wish I had used AB over MWD)

Course that only works if they come in that close

DONJUAN v
Dashavatara
Clownz'R'Us
Posted - 2010.06.22 20:57:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Shade Millith
Edited by: Shade Millith on 22/06/2010 09:36:25
Well, I did have SOME success on a mach with a dual TDing Drake, get in close, scramble, orbit close.

Didn't quite work as he had scram/web, and since he's faster, just pulled away and lowered transversal. Kinda went down hard afterwards. (Really wish I had used AB over MWD)

Course that only works if they come in that close


thats why you check his speed , some ppl fit it like the above link with only 1 disruptor and neut , i find this risky as a cap boosted ship able to handle the 1 heavy neut will web and orbit the mach . but if you fall on the armor tanked one that has web/painter on it , ouch it will hurt Embarassed

mach just rules , never has fitting officer gear felt so good Cool

Wacktopia
Sicarius.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2010.06.22 23:35:00 - [19]
 

Message me in game. Ill come tackle/damp him in an Arazu. You can do the rest. Game over.

King Gore
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.06.23 00:58:00 - [20]
 

IMO the only real threat from a mach or any other capless dps ship is, well, the capacitor. Since it uses none, the damage output will remain a huge challenge.

Mr Blue
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.24 15:31:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Mr Blue on 24/06/2010 15:33:34


Bring a faction scrambler and web, prefer 2 web. overload. But 1 might still cut it. Bait him to come inside web range. (try slowboating back to gate ect ect).
Anything.

If u cant bait him to come below your overheated scram range ure in a world of trouble.
You can try mwd in 1 direction away from the machariel and hope he clicks approce(sometimes they panic and click it when u starting to get out of range). Then click aproce to the mach and overload mwd, web scram and pray that he cant stop his ship quick enough/click orbit/turn around before u got ure web/scram on him.
Basicly the same way u would try to tackle a vaga in a ishtar or similar.

But we are still talking about a mach that gotto do a mistake to tackled. And U still gotto be able to survive its dmg(aka prob be in a bs yourself) or have a ****ton of Tracking disruptors.

Concubinia Scarlett
Posted - 2010.06.24 15:44:00 - [22]
 

You know all the threads on here going back years asking:

'How do I kill a vagabond solo? This vaga pilot keeps owning me/escaping.'

Its like that.
But bigger.
And worse. Shocked


 

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