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omgdutch2005
Gallente
Advanced Planetary Exports
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2010.06.18 08:17:00 - [31]
 

Can I haz free ships tooo?

i got 14m!!!!

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.18 08:18:00 - [32]
 

Can I have back all my ships I lost in eve and spawned to rens?

Would be awsome, tnx in advance

Romulus XII
Gallente
GONE RETARD BACK LATER
Posted - 2010.06.18 08:33:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Romulus XII on 18/06/2010 08:36:53
Edited by: Romulus XII on 18/06/2010 08:36:19
Edited by: Romulus XII on 18/06/2010 08:36:06
Edited by: Romulus XII on 18/06/2010 08:35:15
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: LadyScarlet
i don't think anyone is making up anything about gms we are questioning VuKs claims which is a big difference :)


Vuk is saying he is gonna give them hell. The opposite to what you are implying. In fact he's raged at them before for the state of 0.0. He has a track record of doing this whereas your trackrecord is cheating and trying to cover it up with ccp employes.


I need help in my ~t20~ sorry t2 reactions, silos not filling up. Sabre BPOs are a game winner.

"Guys I cant promise you I will get our ships back, but I giving my word their panties will tremble from I start casting rage and flames." i.e he will do his best to get them back (yay engrish), your words where they belong fred0, just because u managed to spin the forums for 6 months, doesnt mean it will work this time.
Everyone rages at CCP for the "state of 0.0", give them medals/credit/titans too.

Now be quiet

*edited for grammar*

Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.18 08:38:00 - [34]
 

There's a difference between raging at the forums and going to iceland and doing it constructively in their face with enough stamina and consistency to make them change.

paracidic
Amarr
High Venture Team
Red Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.18 09:14:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Fred0
There's a difference between raging at the forums and going to iceland and doing it constructively in their face with enough stamina and consistency to make them change.


Fred0, honestly if Vuk can get the servers fixed by making them tremble in their panties then he would be the first CSM to anything of any value. I would have respect for that as it benefits all 0.0 players equally. That would be an amazing feat.

Svett
Caldari
The Executives
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.18 09:18:00 - [36]
 

Never stop crossposting.

Julia Ginzinger
Caldari
Tax Free Corporation
Posted - 2010.06.18 09:33:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: paracidic
Originally by: Fred0
There's a difference between raging at the forums and going to iceland and doing it constructively in their face with enough stamina and consistency to make them change.


Fred0, honestly if Vuk can get the servers fixed by making them tremble in their panties then he would be the first CSM to anything of any value. I would have respect for that as it benefits all 0.0 players equally. That would be an amazing feat.


Unfortunately i have to agree with IT here, the csm is imo pretty useless, its just a nice way to get to iceland on ccp's expenses

JS LiamElms
Gallente
Zor Industries
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.18 10:39:00 - [38]
 

all i can say, is atleast some people are making an effort and taking a step further than whining on the forums.

anyway, on topic.. lololololol... awsome, you have razor forum access, and THIS is the best you can get! dude. seriously!

Marlona Sky
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.18 10:50:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Fred0
There's a difference between raging at the forums and going to iceland and doing it constructively in their face with enough stamina and consistency to make them change.


And what new information could Vuk possible bring to light that CCP does not already know? Huh? Bottom line is Vuk will show up, be just another angry CSM that CCP will have to put up with for a couple of days listening to the same song and dance they have heard from previous CSM's. There will not be some revolutionary meeting in which Vuk causes CCP to, "Oh snap! We had no idea the sov mechanics and lag was horrible. We will change that tomorrow. Thanks Vuk for bringing this to our attention!"

CCP will simply bat an eye at chuckle inside when he shows up and rages. The CCP answer will be, "We are working on it." and viola, that will be the end of that topic. Thats it. Nothing more. Get a grip people.

One thing that would help the lag out is the game being realistic to not have power blocks to do everything. Right now, in 0.0, small to medium size gangs do not have a place. There is nothing that blobbing the crap out of the objective will not do it better. Vuk knows this and has stated that he would not be for anything that would remotely diminish power blocks. "Why would I be for anything that would diminish my current power block?" he said.

But please Fred0, hold your breath for that white knight ridding into CCP's offices and making a statement and magically all lag and crap sov mechanics are fixed. Laughing

Vuk Lau
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.06.18 11:04:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Vuk Lau on 18/06/2010 11:05:48
Originally by: Marlona Sky

And what new information could Vuk possible bring to light that CCP does not already know? Huh? Bottom line is Vuk will show up, be just another angry CSM that CCP will have to put up with for a couple of days listening to the same song and dance they have heard from previous CSM's. There will not be some revolutionary meeting in which Vuk causes CCP to, "Oh snap! We had no idea the sov mechanics and lag was horrible. We will change that tomorrow. Thanks Vuk for bringing this to our attention!"


There are many informations CSM can bring to CCP. F.e. we easily reproduced desync with giving solution for it, while there were not able to for a long time. Now I am preping the informations, how some of the lag effects are client side problems, not server side and can easily be solved as well. Also I was 1st to point how ****ty their approach was to Mass sisi test, and how even if better is still bad, cause we can see if someone (in 2 or 3 cases myself, in 2 cases Bobby Atlas) dont push their blocks there is just not enough ppl to conduct those tests.
Just for the broader public, only guy who rejected participating on those tests is Molle (tho I must admit I never talked with him directly, but via Slinktress, but I doubt she lied), all others I asked at least said they will see what they can do, but they didnt ****ed me off.

Thats only a titbit of info what players can do tru CSM. If you think I am biased, feel free to poke any other CSM member, I am sure any of them will give their best, to present your issues to CSM.

EDIT:
Originally by: Mini Zedd

Enjoy the ban for posting that meat spin Wink


I so hope I will get banned, I just C.A.N.T stop posting :p

Mini Zedd
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.06.18 11:10:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Vuk Lau
Edited by: Vuk Lau on 18/06/2010 11:05:48
Originally by: Marlona Sky

And what new information could Vuk possible bring to light that CCP does not already know? Huh? Bottom line is Vuk will show up, be just another angry CSM that CCP will have to put up with for a couple of days listening to the same song and dance they have heard from previous CSM's. There will not be some revolutionary meeting in which Vuk causes CCP to, "Oh snap! We had no idea the sov mechanics and lag was horrible. We will change that tomorrow. Thanks Vuk for bringing this to our attention!"


There are many informations CSM can bring to CCP. F.e. we easily reproduced desync with giving solution for it, while there were not able to for a long time. Now I am preping the informations, how some of the lag effects are client side problems, not server side and can easily be solved as well. Also I was 1st to point how ****ty their approach was to Mass sisi test, and how even if better is still bad, cause we can see if someone (in 2 or 3 cases myself, in 2 cases Bobby Atlas) dont push their blocks there is just not enough ppl to conduct those tests.
Just for the broader public, only guy who rejected participating on those tests is Molle (tho I must admit I never talked with him directly, but via Slinktress, but I doubt she lied), all others I asked at least said they will see what they can do, but they didnt ****ed me off.

Thats only a titbit of info what players can do tru CSM. If you think I am biased, feel free to poke any other CSM member, I am sure any of them will give their best, to present your issues to CSM.

EDIT:
Originally by: Mini Zedd

Enjoy the ban for posting that meat spin Wink


I so hope I will get banned, I just C.A.N.T stop posting :p


Mods are pretty useless around here so doubt you will Very Happy

Drexciyian
Caldari
The Water Margin Tech
Posted - 2010.06.18 11:33:00 - [42]
 

Where did the link in both posts go?

SFShootme
Caldari
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2010.06.18 11:45:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Fred0
There's a difference between raging at the forums and going to iceland and doing it constructively in their face with enough stamina and consistency to make them change.


There is also a difference between having to file a petition about a ship loss and bieing able to travel to Iceland and discuss it right there on the spot.

Quote:
RAWR-4s-Vuk LauGuys I cant promise you I will get our ships back, but I giving my word their panties will tremble from I start casting rage and flames. If anything is good in 16/6 that is the fact I am going to Iceland on Tuesday.


CSM employees should not be involved in ship reimbursements, especially when it's losses on this scale. Anyone who can't see that is pretty stupid.

LadyScarlet
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.18 15:23:00 - [44]
 

This whole thing makes me giggle.

If molle ever made claims to fly to Iceland call them what so ever everyone and there brother would be goon spamming the forums saying how we have gms and we cheat and twist the rules.

vuk throws a rant on his forums how he is going to go to Iceland and burn there panties at down time receive there magical fairy dusted titans and now he claims its in the name of his csm he will go to Iceland and get stuff fixed.


right to the point.

eve genrated kms for those titans your words 3 showed up unmanned in a system due to a bug have you will you hand those 3 back to ccp if this is the case ???

If not your csm should be pulled because as a representative of the people in eve you should be help preventing bugs not exploiting them.

Forlani Tristania
Gallente
Feral Tendency
Posted - 2010.06.18 15:46:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: LadyScarlet
This whole thing makes me giggle.

If molle ever made claims to fly to Iceland call them what so ever everyone and there brother would be goon spamming the forums saying how we have gms and we cheat and twist the rules.

vuk throws a rant on his forums how he is going to go to Iceland and burn there panties at down time receive there magical fairy dusted titans and now he claims its in the name of his csm he will go to Iceland and get stuff fixed.

right to the point.

eve genrated kms for those titans your words 3 showed up unmanned in a system due to a bug have you will you hand those 3 back to ccp if this is the case ???

If not your csm should be pulled because as a representative of the people in eve you should be help preventing bugs not exploiting them.


I don't have a horse in this race, but wasn't there some sort of titan-related business transaction in the recent past that indicated that the Northern Coalition MIGHT be a little more inclined towards the e-honor that you hope they will demonstrate in this new "ghost supercap" fiasco?

Having seen the GM teaser response in the first thread, I'm more inclined to wait and hear from CCP what the results of the investigation are. If they decide that the bug should not have resulted in the "ghost ships" being spawned, I imagine that CCP will remove them from whatever point in space they are - no questions asked or permission requested. Vuk, the other NC leaders, and the pilots so affected will have no say.

I leave the interpretation of Vuk's statement to each person. English is not an easy language, and I understand that he is not a native English speaker, and so the way in which he constructed that sentence can be easily interpreted as him saying he was going to Iceland to rage at CCP and stump for a return of the ships in question. I read it as he couldn't get the ships back, but he was going to go rage at them about the situation, and how the current state of the game is.

I don't hold a lot of hope for Vuk's success, but that is what he was elected to do.

Ardetia
Caldari
Killer Koalas
Posted - 2010.06.18 15:54:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Forlani Tristania
Originally by: LadyScarlet
This whole thing makes me giggle.

If molle ever made claims to fly to Iceland call them what so ever everyone and there brother would be goon spamming the forums saying how we have gms and we cheat and twist the rules.

vuk throws a rant on his forums how he is going to go to Iceland and burn there panties at down time receive there magical fairy dusted titans and now he claims its in the name of his csm he will go to Iceland and get stuff fixed.

right to the point.

eve genrated kms for those titans your words 3 showed up unmanned in a system due to a bug have you will you hand those 3 back to ccp if this is the case ???

If not your csm should be pulled because as a representative of the people in eve you should be help preventing bugs not exploiting them.


I don't have a horse in this race, but wasn't there some sort of titan-related business transaction in the recent past that indicated that the Northern Coalition MIGHT be a little more inclined towards the e-honor that you hope they will demonstrate in this new "ghost supercap" fiasco?

Having seen the GM teaser response in the first thread, I'm more inclined to wait and hear from CCP what the results of the investigation are. If they decide that the bug should not have resulted in the "ghost ships" being spawned, I imagine that CCP will remove them from whatever point in space they are - no questions asked or permission requested. Vuk, the other NC leaders, and the pilots so affected will have no say.

I leave the interpretation of Vuk's statement to each person. English is not an easy language, and I understand that he is not a native English speaker, and so the way in which he constructed that sentence can be easily interpreted as him saying he was going to Iceland to rage at CCP and stump for a return of the ships in question. I read it as he couldn't get the ships back, but he was going to go rage at them about the situation, and how the current state of the game is.

I don't hold a lot of hope for Vuk's success, but that is what he was elected to do.


investigation on wether or not the kills were within the rules of the game? you must be out of your mind
most of the titans had jumped out 20-60 minutes before they were killed (not in bubbles)
the first titan down had been logged out for hours before he got killed (not in bubble)
i was there the whole fight
i was there for 2 hours "jumping out", with my ship partly invisible, and nothing.. NOTHING happened

at some point i learned that anyone who logged back in to the game for whatever reason (such as getting socket closed, we.):
their ship would become lockable, while they were in blackscreen (not even loading)
2 hours after i got fed up and logged out, i suddenly find myself in the jumpspot i was jumping to
and thats how i lived through the jump.. simply by logging out and staying logged out
anyone that logged in would get their pilot-less ships destroyed and when the nodes worked again, the pilots would be doing other stuff, like wondering where their ship is, while the ship "made the jump" alll by itself =)

thats pretty much the whole ordeal, and i fail to see how this is a discussion at all

MissBolyai
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.18 16:59:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: LadyScarlet
This whole thing makes me Jiggle.

If molle ever made claims to fly to Iceland call them what so ever everyone and there brother would be goon spamming the forums saying how we have gms and we cheat and twist the rules.
well, to be fair tubby, Molle's been directly linked with cheating before

vuk's just a homo with a long rod

Si'ren
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.06.18 17:36:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Si''ren on 18/06/2010 17:36:47
Originally by: Fred0
There's a difference between raging at the forums and going to iceland and doing it constructively in their face with enough stamina and consistency to make them change.


there is also a difference in taking this *video game* way too far and actually looking at it as a video game.

also, until proven otherwise this is just damage control of epic proportions and really pathetic.

Romulus XII
Gallente
GONE RETARD BACK LATER
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:39:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: IronGoldenEagle
Originally by: LadyScarlet
Christ I'm fat


T-20 LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing


The pole you are sitting on, you can get off it, or off on it.

Aleksandr Cirtus
Caldari
Dark Neutron Star
Drama Flakes
Posted - 2010.06.18 23:11:00 - [50]
 

I'm glad I decided to forego these failitions in favor of the simpler life...

All I have to worry about is getting a crappy drop on my next domination or officer spawn, or hauling all the tritanium from a quad convoy spawn.

Oh HAAYY... CCP, fix my loot tables too plzthx while yer at it?


Slug Killer
Minmatar
Harmless Enterprise
Posted - 2010.06.19 00:08:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Bernadictus
Now come on guys. Nothing a few weeks of carebearing can't fix :D

Or 100+ tech high end moons that CCP spawned for the NC around dominion..

Overman
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.06.19 04:44:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: LadyScarlet
This whole thing makes me giggle.

If molle ever made claims to fly to Iceland call them what so ever everyone and there brother would be goon spamming the forums saying how we have gms and we cheat and twist the rules.

vuk throws a rant on his forums how he is going to go to Iceland and burn there panties at down time receive there magical fairy dusted titans and now he claims its in the name of his csm he will go to Iceland and get stuff fixed.


right to the point.

eve genrated kms for those titans your words 3 showed up unmanned in a system due to a bug have you will you hand those 3 back to ccp if this is the case ???

If not your csm should be pulled because as a representative of the people in eve you should be help preventing bugs not exploiting them.



Freed from the shackles of... sentence fluency?

RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Black Viper Nomads
Posted - 2010.06.19 11:17:00 - [53]
 

With Ankh on his side I am sure Vuk will get the devs attention.

Oh wa--

Rolling Eyes

Aveng3X
Caldari
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.20 10:32:00 - [54]
 

itt irrelevant IT alliance person shows that even though they can cross-post from Razor forums they still can't take regions

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.20 11:19:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Aveng3X
itt irrelevant IT alliance person shows that even though they can cross-post from Razor forums they still can't take regions


and with the largest bluelist in history of eve, razor couldnt keep molle from living in delve again

Aveng3X
Caldari
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.20 11:43:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Ace Frehley
Originally by: Aveng3X
itt irrelevant IT alliance person shows that even though they can cross-post from Razor forums they still can't take regions


and with the largest bluelist in history of eve, razor couldnt keep molle from living in delve again


Delve was easy mode :)

Thought I might just remind you that:
1. NC is non expansionist,
2. that your alliance and was one of the first to run out of stamina and pull out of the North
3. SC had the largest bluelist of ~eleet peeveepeers~ and metagamers and couldn't break the NC, the biggest carebear coalition in the history of eve

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.20 12:48:00 - [57]
 

So ou say that Atlas hasent claimed a single inch of NC-space? Cool





Le Cardinal
Caldari
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.06.20 13:36:00 - [58]
 

Can we join rawr temporarily so we too can get our ships magically respawned? After all, unfair lag and stuff has never happened to anybody else than NC.

And if Vuk is able to pull strings to get their ships back god knows how many other ships he has managed to get back through a direct link as csm.


Anuqet
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.20 17:32:00 - [59]
 

Welcome back to caod IT alliance, how you doin?


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