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Tsumei Meyren
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.06.13 11:42:00 - [31]
 

On one hand, I agree - this is not a biggie.

On the other. Why can't -I- do it then? Our alliance has seeeeveral people who are juust over that limit and thus excluded from joining, several of them who have been irritatingly usefull to us.

Sure, we can do it without them, but it's still kind of a pain in the arse, and it's cheap that they get away with it like this still. rules were made clear and all, they should have checked that themselves too.

Goberth Ludwig
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.13 14:39:00 - [32]
 

good call tbh,

but its sloppy as hell that this was notified last weekend and you only bothered ruling about it now, Claw

- Gov

Kirtur Muhaha
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.06.13 17:23:00 - [33]
 

As a team in the running for finals right now, I would be extremely displeased if we happened to be 33rd place and knocked out because of 1 team clearly violating the rules. At the very least I would have expected a points deduction, all of the other rules are rigidly disciplined... Why not this one?Confused

Markus Reese
Caldari
New Eden Weekly Sentinel
Posted - 2010.06.13 17:34:00 - [34]
 

Well, IMO, the eligibility of the player or not really only affected the team with whom R.O. were fighting. In my opinion, points should be deducted, from R.O.; and/or added to the competing team equal to the point value of the offending player's ship.

Damien Larkspur
Martyr's Vengence
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.06.13 18:17:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Markus Reese
Well, IMO, the eligibility of the player or not really only affected the team with whom R.O. were fighting. In my opinion, points should be deducted, from R.O.; and/or added to the competing team equal to the point value of the offending player's ship.


While deducting the points will allow both Soldiers of Thunderstorm and OWN Alliance a better chance of getting in... Since Circle of Two won both of their matches, the only thing the points would do for them is to maybe position them in a more favorable matchup in the Quarter Finals.

Crumbly George
Posted - 2010.06.14 10:58:00 - [36]
 

Well, there are two loop-holes there as I read it.

1) Define Pilot. Is it the same as character? i.e. is it the person behind the keyboard?

2) It doesn't say that the pilot has to be in that alliance for the 60 days directly before the alliance. If they've historically been in the alliance for 60 days total at some stage, then this should also satisfy the letter (if not the spirit) of the rules?

Lt Al3x3i
ROMANIA Renegades
Posted - 2010.06.14 11:05:00 - [37]
 

If u let rol win the first mach u should let all Teams to come whit players under 60 days
If it a rule respect it without exception ..

Iteken Hotori
Minmatar
The Flowing Penguins
Posted - 2010.06.14 11:15:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 14/06/2010 11:14:56
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 13/06/2010 10:16:08

man what a bunch of whiney little bitches


^^
So you want to give points to Erebus alliance, who didn't turn up, or C02 who have max points.....

Top thinking there.

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2010.06.14 12:04:00 - [39]
 

Full History
Originally by: So Sensational

Yes, well spoken Sir, I fully agree with the above post. Clearly laws, rules and regulations are in place for a reason, they are not wrong, they can never be wrong and there are never any exceptions. The one part I do not agree with is that the ROL team shouldn't be disqualified, they should in fact be banned from competing in all future tournaments, their alliance disbanded and their characters branded with a permanent "AT8 cheater" stamp to discourage future violations.

We simply cannot let this pass. No exceptions.


If CCP Claw was not corrupt, taking bribes and fixing the matches, that player would never have been allowed to enter the tournament. ROL is only the symptom of a much deeper problem, which is CCP Claw! Before we have any chance of restoring order to the eve univers, CCP Claw needs to be removed from his position of power!

Rolly Boxxaani
Posted - 2010.06.14 12:08:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Iteken Hotori
Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 14/06/2010 11:14:56
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 13/06/2010 10:16:08

man what a bunch of whiney little bitches


^^
So you want to give points to Erebus alliance, who didn't turn up, or C02 who have max points.....

Top thinking there.


I totally agree . What would have changed on our game vs R.OL if that error would have been seen at the beginning of the game? His ship taken out etc? We would have lost anyhow, to same extent (maybe we would have scored "some" points, but for sure we would have not went to the 2nd game).
If there is any penalty for this error, do not take points out of R.OL. They deserve to be in the finals (my opinion).

So Sensational
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.06.14 17:04:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: dexington
Full History
Originally by: So Sensational

Yes, well spoken Sir, I fully agree with the above post. Clearly laws, rules and regulations are in place for a reason, they are not wrong, they can never be wrong and there are never any exceptions. The one part I do not agree with is that the ROL team shouldn't be disqualified, they should in fact be banned from competing in all future tournaments, their alliance disbanded and their characters branded with a permanent "AT8 cheater" stamp to discourage future violations.

We simply cannot let this pass. No exceptions.


If CCP Claw was not corrupt, taking bribes and fixing the matches, that player would never have been allowed to enter the tournament. ROL is only the symptom of a much deeper problem, which is CCP Claw! Before we have any chance of restoring order to the eve univers, CCP Claw needs to be removed from his position of power!


Quite possibly true, I suggest a lethal purge of the entire team responsible for this disaster.

Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2010.06.14 20:38:00 - [42]
 

Clearly ROL fielded that illegal pilot because they had no one else in the alliance that could fly that ship!

Good ruling. No real impact for the infraction, no real penalty as a result.

slave redeemer
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.06.14 23:09:00 - [43]
 

I`m sure the Russians will give their place to the alliance that just lost out. I mean they`re all about fair play just look at the way they rallied against the monkeysphere

Doctor Mustaka
Caldari
Bite me inc.
SRS.
Posted - 2010.06.15 13:12:00 - [44]
 

I agree that claw did bend the rules. This makes him bent. And we all know we do with bent benders around here.

Lucas Quaan
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.15 13:36:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Tournament Rules
A player found breaking any rules can be penalized to various degrees, depending on the severity of the offence. All penalties are incurred at the tournament organizer's discretion. Decisions are final.

Bolded the important part.


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