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Mo adib
Amarr
The Fimbriani
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.06.03 15:22:00 - [31]
 

oh IRC you sly minx, dont you go a changing on me Laughing

Conmen
Amarr
Vengeance of the Fallen
Syndicate.
Posted - 2010.06.03 15:40:00 - [32]
 

IRC worst RC for radio controlled they have alot of passion PASSION BUGGET OVERFLOWING WITH MANJUICE... THEY ARE ARMING THE NINJAS BURNZ EDEN BE CAREFUL

MAN JUICE EXPLOSION INBOUND!

Kriekon
Gallente
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2010.06.03 20:51:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Kriekon on 03/06/2010 20:52:44
Super Cap builds on hold guys? :P
[EDIT] And you didn't want those JB did you?

Ghostthor
Caldari
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2010.06.03 21:56:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Farham


Will pay isk to have mails posted up on a temp message board. I mean, you're mercs no?

Very Happy


:( Satan says mails make us too vain... Their disallowed.

-hOr

Psychotic Turtle
Minmatar
Peanut Factory
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.06.03 23:44:00 - [35]
 

Ghostthor is my favorite hor.
Stupid baby seals they never learn do they Kick?

El Mauru
Amarr
Interwebs Cooter Explosion
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2010.06.03 23:56:00 - [36]
 

Ah right, I totally forgot. There's the drone regions.

So anything interesting happening out there? Last time I visited it was just a huge bunch of small towers and orcas out in space.

Ghostthor
Caldari
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2010.06.04 00:50:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Psychotic Turtle
Ghostthor is my favorite hor.
Stupid baby seals they never learn do they Kick?


... First of all Clubbing baby seals... highly relaxing don't knock it till you try it.

Also, i still hate you.

-hOr

SATAN
Amarr
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.04 02:55:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Prannon
Standing Orders Regarding MO-
From: Prannon
Sent: 2010.06.02 13:38
To: Doraxis Blie,

To All Intrepid Crossing Members:

A situation has arisen in MO-, as you may well be aware. Burn Eden and associated corporations have moved into the system and are camping it. They have access to at least four motherships, including Nyx's, Aeons, and Hel's. They also have access to at least two titans, including an Avatar and an Erebus. They have multiple NIghtmare class Battleships, Dramiels, Daredevils, and Machariels, all of which are extremely powerful ships and very deadly to encounter. All of these ships represent a huge threat to any IRC ships operating in the system. They have already used these ships to offline the system's station services, and both of the jumpbridges linking MO- to CUT- and VY- have been destroyed. This makes movement within MO- and through MO- very difficult.

IRC High Command has been working on plans to counter this threat All ideas from any member of the alliance are welcomed to contribute to the pool of ideas that High Command is considering. However, until further notice, High Command would like to issue the following standing orders.

1) Avoid traveling to or through MO-. This represents a huge risk to yourself and your ship, and also stands a good chance of giving Burn Eden an easy kill. Burn Eden is a griefing organization that lives to camp systems like this, and they will prey on anyone who puts themselves at risk. Anyone they kill serves as an encouragement for them to stay longer.

2) If you must go to MO-, ask in Ops Cobalt if the system is clear first. Alternatively, have a scout accompany you, especially if you are ferrying valuable materials. Preferably, no one should go to MO- as long as Burn Eden is present unless HC calls for a Home Defense of the system. However, High Command understands that for some, traveling through or to MO- will be unavoidable, and would like members to mitigate their risks.

3) Participate in Home Defense! High Command understands that many in the alliance have had their sources of income hurt in the recent patch, and many more may be reluctant to risk their more expensive ships in Home Defense fleets. High Command does not begrudge people the choice to do with their ships what they will. High Command also understands that many in the alliance may not have the skills trained, or the isk, to bring the ship requested. However, a Home Defense Fleet is only as capable as the ships people can bring, and it severely limits the FC's command options in defending our space if members are not able to quickly bring the ships the FC asks for.
a) As such, members should make it a priority to train for, purchase, and fit ships that are commonly called for in home defense fleets. If not for your direct benefit, then for the benefit of the other alliance members around you and all of us that fly under the same banner. And in the meantime, High Command will never, EVER denegrate someone who wants to contribute to Home Defense in any way that they can.

4) Finally, and most importantly, do not give in to despair! IRC is a strong alliance with strong allies, and one system camped will not break us. Continue to rat. Continue to mine. Continue to make isk as you can. The short term effects of the recent patch, nerfing drone alloys, may not last. Prices for minerals are still fluctuating wildly and may settle at a much more favorable location in the mid-future.

Intrepid Crossing is grateful to all of its members for contributing to the community and for enriching this region of space. Everyone has a role in this, and it makes us more powerful than any humiliation or pressure that Burn Eden can bring to bear on us.

Fly Safe!

Intrepid Crossing High Command

Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.04 03:29:00 - [39]
 

Spaceholding alliance held hostage by less than 30 people.

LaughingLaughingLaughing

PROMENTIS
Minmatar
BELLUM MENTALIS
BiffCo.
Posted - 2010.06.04 08:44:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
Spaceholding alliance held hostage by less than 30 people.

LaughingLaughingLaughing
??? 30 people we are all satans alts.

Gicer
Gallente
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.06.04 09:21:00 - [41]
 

IRC it's time to batphone like you havent batphoned before.

At least BE will have more targets now, we reset IRC at the start of this week because they promised help in Venal vs the NC and all they did was Gurista plexes.


Needa3
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.04 09:59:00 - [42]
 

pfff i wonder when they are going to fight.

all this crap about their home defense fleet and all we get is a nub in a BS.

I mean, Ghost cannot keep on trimming his pubes while we're doing nothing and my KB stats aren't going up.

IRC HC pls post an op against up, pretty pls

If you keep doing this then the NC is going to ask its iskies back


Spinalonga
Caldari
Red Tiger Technology
Posted - 2010.06.04 10:35:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Spinalonga on 04/06/2010 10:34:59
Originally by: White Aero
I would like to confirm that Satan is secretly running Atlas and -A-.

Love ya boss,

W.A.


i thought u were secret leader :(:( Wink

i been sucking wrong d*ck

Smoke Adian
Caldari
League of Gentlemen
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.06.04 11:26:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Prannon
Continue to rat. Continue to mine.

Kronos Hopeslayer
Minmatar
Lorentzian Traversable Corporation
Posted - 2010.06.04 14:08:00 - [45]
 

I have a Maze escalation in VY-, who do I bribe so I can go run it?

PS: I miss you guys in H-W, was nice chatting with you in between clown curb-stomping fleets.

PSS: IRC - 50 Drakes, a few scimitars and an FC with at least an IQ over 50 should be enough to scare off BE. You don't even need to change the drakes from PVE fits...


Farham
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.06.04 14:38:00 - [46]
 

"we reset IRC at the start of this week because they promised help in Venal vs the NC and all they did was Gurista plexes."

The more things change, the more they stay the same. They were kicked out of the Vale while still back in Etherium Reach because they were supposed to help fight Tri. Instead they moved the alliance up, fought 2x, lost horribly and decided rat. Hell, the biggest fight they had was over who got to run the cosmos complex there.

Remember newer members of IRC...this has all happened before and if you look for the real story and results they are very different from what your HC is spoon feeding you.

DOARota
Gallente
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2010.06.04 15:31:00 - [47]
 

"PSS: IRC - 50 Drakes, a few scimitars and an FC with at least an IQ over 50 should be enough to scare off BE. You don't even need to change the drakes from PVE fits..."

Rolling Eyes
Whatever. Just bring fifty of something.


Xeraos
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.06.04 17:31:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Kronos Hopeslayer
I have a Maze escalation in VY-, who do I bribe so I can go run it?

PS: I miss you guys in H-W, was nice chatting with you in between clown curb-stomping fleets.

PSS: IRC - 50 Drakes, a few scimitars and an FC with at least an IQ over 50 should be enough to scare off BE. You don't even need to change the drakes from PVE fits...



Sorry for destroying your macro miners/ratters and killing your industry from 5 to 1 in QFF and C-F
and 4 cap industrials and destroying a few hulks Rolling Eyes
So BE How about them hit and run tactics working?
Oh Say hi to TJ for me.

Farham
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.06.04 17:43:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Farham on 04/06/2010 17:43:35
"So BE How about them hit and run tactics working?
Oh Say hi to TJ for me."


Oh I don't know, IRC Killboard for the past week:

41 Ships killed ---- 247 Ships lost ---- 15.46% Efficiency


I'd say, ok.

Kronos Hopeslayer
Minmatar
Lorentzian Traversable Corporation
Posted - 2010.06.04 18:34:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Xeraos
Originally by: Kronos Hopeslayer
I have a Maze escalation in VY-, who do I bribe so I can go run it?

PS: I miss you guys in H-W, was nice chatting with you in between clown curb-stomping fleets.

PSS: IRC - 50 Drakes, a few scimitars and an FC with at least an IQ over 50 should be enough to scare off BE. You don't even need to change the drakes from PVE fits...



Sorry for destroying your macro miners/ratters and killing your industry from 5 to 1 in QFF and C-F
and 4 cap industrials and destroying a few hulks Rolling Eyes
So BE How about them hit and run tactics working?
Oh Say hi to TJ for me.


I'd raid IRC more often but killing a fleet of IRC is kinda like screwing a $5 hooker. Sure I'll get my kicks, but it was a $5 hooker...


SATAN
Amarr
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.04 18:47:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Farham
Edited by: Farham on 04/06/2010 17:43:35
"So BE How about them hit and run tactics working?
Oh Say hi to TJ for me."


Oh I don't know, IRC Killboard for the past week:

41 Ships killed ---- 247 Ships lost ---- 15.46% Efficiency


I'd say, ok.


They forget to post many of their losses to make sure their kb looks good.

And they have managed to kill 1 interceptor of ours since we got here.

DOARota
Gallente
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2010.06.04 18:58:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Farham
Edited by: Farham on 04/06/2010 17:43:35
"So BE How about them hit and run tactics working?
Oh Say hi to TJ for me."


Oh I don't know, IRC Killboard for the past week:

41 Ships killed ---- 247 Ships lost ---- 15.46% Efficiency

I'd say, ok.


Where did they get those kills? As far as I can tell we are running at 100% vs them.
As far as the hit and run analogy goes...We have forced the enemy to retreat most of the time so it's mostly been hit and hit tactics.We did have a mm fleet of about 100-150 join the fun for a short while. I think we reminded them quickly why that's a bad idea.
Then we remembered that we only gank and never fight while outnumbered...yeah, that's it.
Fake edit: I was just informed we have indeed lost a couple of inty's during this time .We suck.

Farham
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.06.04 19:48:00 - [53]
 

"Fake edit: I was just informed we have indeed lost a couple of inty's during this time .We suck."


I assume they have been fired and are at this moment applying to IT. Very Happy

Mo adib
Amarr
The Fimbriani
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.06.04 20:16:00 - [54]
 

name and shame the interceptor pilot that died to IRC

Needa3
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.04 20:45:00 - [55]
 

Quote:
by SFM Hobb3s
Whatever....it should be generally assumed their spy will feed them info in real time regardless of what we do. Really its just a matter of time and we'll start catching them, hopefully those nightmares first. I hope they don't decide to pack up and leave before this happens. Everything else we can just rebuild. I'll give Burn Eden props for only one thing: the expert skill of running and hiding. Yep, that's really the big difference between us and them, is the running away bit. They're pretty good at it. If they weren't we'd have killed them lots by now. Their nightmares, their tengu's, even their titan, all ready to run away at a moments notice. Which is exactly what they do the moment they think they're in trouble. They whine on CAOD forums about not bringing a good fight, but all they want to do is gank targets anyways. The moment we field anything remotely equivalent and oh, they've warped off again.


still waiting till you all actually log in

Zuquar Bonaparte
Gallente
New Dawn Corporation
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2010.06.04 21:07:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Needa3
Quote:
by SFM Hobb3s
Whatever....it should be generally assumed their spy will feed them info in real time regardless of what we do. Really its just a matter of time and we'll start catching them, hopefully those nightmares first. I hope they don't decide to pack up and leave before this happens. Everything else we can just rebuild. I'll give Burn Eden props for only one thing: the expert skill of running and hiding. Yep, that's really the big difference between us and them, is the running away bit. They're pretty good at it. If they weren't we'd have killed them lots by now. Their nightmares, their tengu's, even their titan, all ready to run away at a moments notice. Which is exactly what they do the moment they think they're in trouble. They whine on CAOD forums about not bringing a good fight, but all they want to do is gank targets anyways. The moment we field anything remotely equivalent and oh, they've warped off again.


Only a complete moron would stay and fight with 30 ppl against fleets of maybe 200+
and only a noob would say something like sfm hobb3s , the only way u have the slightest chance to do these guys anything would be to make a sacrifice big enough for them to take the bait. and that you most likely will not get from a bunch of carebears, not even a big bunch.

big aplaud to BE for doing just what they set out to do with so few ppl, reminding me of wepra corp in d7 last month.



Ione Skye
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.06.04 22:40:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Ione Skye on 05/06/2010 00:05:10



I give you, IRC and anybody, who does not know them, a pro tip. I think, you need it Wink :

They do not jump very often through gates with their sniper ECCM nightmares. Shocked

Fighter support from deep saves should have been nerved according to the Tyrannis patch notes, but my deep saves are still working. Sadly there is no word about ECCM setups in the patch notes. I do not like that, too.

However all you have to do, is not to jump through that gate, not undock at that station, not move around in that system, in which tehy are, if there is a dramiel/tackle ship from them active and not enough backup to protect you.

You are right: they do not engage, if they consider something a threat.

@ Co2 guy: Equilibrium aka Lee Chanka copied from BE. I liked his sniper Machariel fitting more. He proofed, you do not need necessarily ECCM. It was pretty funny, how some guys in MM pretend, he would be ECCM and unprobable. He lost the ship, but it still took long until it happened. Even if such a sniper ship is probable, you have only a few seconds to catch him - untill he is aligned.

You simply have to decide, whether you think, it is worth your time and whether you see a way, to chase somebody, who is trying to avoid any risk - then oyu need a lot of patience. Often you end up to call an op off, because you realize, you made a mistake, which will spook them. For example, if they saw an uncloaked covert ops ship close or if you use your main TS or if you let ppl in your gang, who you do not know or if the gang members are not willing to bring the right ships etc.

I did not lose a ship against BE in the last 4 years. I just followed their own rule, not as strict as they do, but it was enough. I was still based in H-W, when they were in H-W. But I did not move around, when thy were active. Most of the time, I was somewhere else. There was the chance for them to kill me a PVP ship, because I risked several times something to them, even when I knew, the odds are against my gang. I was even willing to sacrifize my ship, but well - you can not sacrifice a ship, if they do not uncloak. So some of it was luck, some of it was "skill" - the skill, which they have, too (and which anybody could have). For me the choice was always easy in the end.





Farham
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.06.05 00:06:00 - [58]
 

"Yep, that's really the big difference between us and them, is the running away bit."

And the being competent thing but doesn't really count for much.

Shade Millith
Caldari
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.06.05 01:47:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Ione Skye
Words


Much of this is true

Burn Eden will not engage you directly, and won't follow you outside system with those snipers, as they're setup for one thing and one thing only, sniping and warping off when anything gets close. No tank whatsoever, and loaded up with ECCM and sensor boosters.

The snipers really aren't a threat unless you do something stupid.

Muad' Dib
Gallente
PWNED FACTOR HOLDINGS
Posted - 2010.06.05 03:31:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Ione Skye
Edited by: Ione Skye on 05/06/2010 00:05:10



I give you, IRC and anybody, who does not know them, a pro tip. I think, you need it Wink :

They do not jump very often through gates with their sniper ECCM nightmares. Shocked

Fighter support from deep saves should have been nerved according to the Tyrannis patch notes, but my deep saves are still working. Sadly there is no word about ECCM setups in the patch notes. I do not like that, too.

However all you have to do, is not to jump through that gate, not undock at that station, not move around in that system, in which tehy are, if there is a dramiel/tackle ship from them active and not enough backup to protect you.

You are right: they do not engage, if they consider something a threat.

@ Co2 guy: Equilibrium aka Lee Chanka copied from BE. I liked his sniper Machariel fitting more. He proofed, you do not need necessarily ECCM. It was pretty funny, how some guys in MM pretend, he would be ECCM and unprobable. He lost the ship, but it still took long until it happened. Even if such a sniper ship is probable, you have only a few seconds to catch him - untill he is aligned.

You simply have to decide, whether you think, it is worth your time and whether you see a way, to chase somebody, who is trying to avoid any risk - then oyu need a lot of patience. Often you end up to call an op off, because you realize, you made a mistake, which will spook them. For example, if they saw an uncloaked covert ops ship close or if you use your main TS or if you let ppl in your gang, who you do not know or if the gang members are not willing to bring the right ships etc.

I did not lose a ship against BE in the last 4 years. I just followed their own rule, not as strict as they do, but it was enough. I was still based in H-W, when they were in H-W. But I did not move around, when thy were active. Most of the time, I was somewhere else. There was the chance for them to kill me a PVP ship, because I risked several times something to them, even when I knew, the odds are against my gang. I was even willing to sacrifize my ship, but well - you can not sacrifice a ship, if they do not uncloak. So some of it was luck, some of it was "skill" - the skill, which they have, too (and which anybody could have). For me the choice was always easy in the end.







You are conveniently forgetting why they are using ECCM sniper setups, it's because of the way probing is, something your alliance has been very good at it. Try not to forget next time, or ask your older corp m8s. :)


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