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Kriger
Caldari
Old Farts Rest Home
Posted - 2010.05.31 06:33:00 - [61]
 

lol at PL.. again. Petitioning when things dont go their way? Never! outrageous! They are pro gents.. keep that in mind plz.

And yea mobile bubbles never get shot, so the whole redundancy argument has to be bullsh*t, so it must have been to induce lag. WTS bombs btw.

Hint to CCP. Rather than pulling stunts like this, change the gamemechanics to prevent bubbles being placed overlapping or at close proximity. But then you might as well just remove them all together. Oh did i mention, WTS bombs?


Daco Cutter
Gallente
Invictus Australis
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:00:00 - [62]
 

Edited by: Daco Cutter on 31/05/2010 08:11:45
Originally by: Kriger
And yea mobile bubbles never get shot....


I have personally watched the NC shoot mobile bubbles, so I could understand why someone might put more then 1 bubble up, especially since the NC lose targets because they blob the hell out of the opponent and the opponent just takes off instead of being slaughtered.

And the rest of this thread is good imo Laughing

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Troll Hunters INC.
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:15:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 31/05/2010 08:16:07
Originally by: Kriger
lol at PL.. again. Petitioning when things dont go their way? Never! outrageous! They are pro gents.. keep that in mind plz.

And yea mobile bubbles never get shot, so the whole redundancy argument has to be bullsh*t, so it must have been to induce lag. WTS bombs btw.

Hint to CCP. Rather than pulling stunts like this, change the gamemechanics to prevent bubbles being placed overlapping or at close proximity. But then you might as well just remove them all together. Oh did i mention, WTS bombs?




Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ?
If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.

Corbeau Lenoir
Caldari
ZER0.
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:26:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Tiger's Spirit

Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ?
If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.

Maybe you should get more experience in 0.0 warfare, before judging people, who know how to fight in nullsec? Bubbles are placed on the gates for a reason and small hint for you: the reason is not to cause the lag.
If PL can not fight around this without calling their GM, it just indicates how "good" they are at pvp. Rolling Eyes

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Troll Hunters INC.
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:32:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 31/05/2010 08:33:52
Originally by: Corbeau Lenoir
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit

Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ?
If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.

Maybe you should get more experience in 0.0 warfare, before judging people, who know how to fight in nullsec? Bubbles are placed on the gates for a reason and small hint for you: the reason is not to cause the lag.
If PL can not fight around this without calling their GM, it just indicates how "good" they are at pvp. Rolling Eyes


Maybe i have more 0 sec kill than you ?
So better if you dont try evading.
Exploit using is cheat. Like 70+ bubble on gate.
I hope next time who ancored those bubbles and using exloit banned from game, because they breaking the game rules and EULA.
So, better if u just keep your mouth close.
The GM-s used their jobs and remove those items , but what about you dear Bob spawn ? Think to me do you not remember T20 GM ?

Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:33:00 - [66]
 

Good call. Next time I bet IT will place 5-10 large t2 bubbles to cover the gate and that's all well and fine and noone will complain. The good thing is that the csaa's were saved because if they hadn't omg this would be the worst whinethread ever. :)

DRACO selen
Caldari
The Executives
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:39:00 - [67]
 

Edited by: DRACO selen on 31/05/2010 08:41:26
that bubbles did create so much jump in lag, that you did not load, is simply not true.
There were 4(!) guys that did not load as it seems, while the rest of the pl/nc fleet was out of all bubbles after 4.5 minutes.

just to compare this, in h-w it took me like 30 minutes to even get in game

Quote:
Good call. Next time I bet IT will place 5-10 large t2 bubbles to cover the gate and that's all well and fine and noone will complain. The good thing is that the csaa's were saved because if they hadn't omg this would be the worst whinethread ever. :)

10 bubbles will be dead after 20 sec and therefore there is no point. in order to lock down someone today with all the numbers you need to use a massive ammount of bubbbles. and it's not like that it's just us doing this..

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:48:00 - [68]
 

but but I like to place alot off bubbles, what is it left for me to do ingame now? MadCrying or Very sad
But what happens if you see more then 10 dictors and hacdictors in system at a gate, will you petition them cuz they generate to much lag?

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Troll Hunters INC.
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:53:00 - [69]
 

Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 31/05/2010 09:04:02
Originally by: DRACO selen
Edited by: DRACO selen on 31/05/2010 08:41:26
that bubbles did create so much jump in lag, that you did not load, is simply not true.
There were 4(!) guys that did not load as it seems, while the rest of the pl/nc fleet was out of all bubbles after 4.5 minutes.

just to compare this, in h-w it took me like 30 minutes to even get in game

Quote:
Good call. Next time I bet IT will place 5-10 large t2 bubbles to cover the gate and that's all well and fine and noone will complain. The good thing is that the csaa's were saved because if they hadn't omg this would be the worst whinethread ever. :)

10 bubbles will be dead after 20 sec and therefore there is no point. in order to lock down someone today with all the numbers you need to use a massive ammount of bubbbles. and it's not like that it's just us doing this..


Lying.
~3 sec need to lock a bubble. When lagging the system,because have 800 ppl in system, like yesterday the damage is sh*t a simple locking time increasing over 20-30 sec. Many times a simple BS kill need half minute for a big fleet because lag.
And do you talk about fleet will kill within 20 sec the bubbles :D
No, those bubbles was there in large numbers, because IT would generating lag.
Those bubbles more objects on grid and made very big disadvantage who jumping into system.
Everone know 70+ bubble on gate generate big lag, this is why CCP GM not enabled this exploit with cans too.

DRACO selen
Caldari
The Executives
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:54:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Ace Frehley
but but I like to place alot off bubbles, what is it left for me to do ingame now? MadCrying or Very sad
But what happens if you see more then 10 dictors and hacdictors in system at a gate, will you petition them cuz they generate to much lag?

"hi
the hostile fleet is camping the ingate and therefore creating lag. from my point of view this is an exploit.
please remove the hostile fleet so i can enter the system without lag" Very Happy

Zaber Xavier
Caldari
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2010.05.31 09:04:00 - [71]
 

man i havent heard this much bs in a long time when did pl get there nuts cut off to make them going a petition what the NC do constanly. guys if you cant handle the heat then leave the game or go someplace else grow some balls and be a man damn yall. last time i petitioned anything was someone actually doing something bad and that was cursing in local chat the bubbles thing thats just another idiot that is un happy he didnt get his way grew up damn yall. and ccp stay out of it its not the bubbles or the ships its much of all the bs yall add before fixing the actuall issue with the game. we dont need a new people and places or a damn calender we need the codes fixed pre domion on the damn lag.

Audrea
Gallente
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.31 09:11:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Midjutetur
Originally by: Golemag
Originally by: McKinlay
Creating lag is a EULA violation and any items placed in that way are forfeit without reimbursement. Please be careful in the future with placing so many objects in space.


PR- was with similar nombers of bubbles around the station.

H-W was with similar nombers of bubbles around the dead poses.


yet, even with those nombers none of you was smart enough to petition it?


Dont you worry:
1) Mails to internal affairs are pending demanding investigation of the decision and answers on this.
2) According to answers - we shall adapt to CCPs logic. If this stays this way, I personally will be petitioning hostile fleets to be moved away, as they 'create lag'! and anything else I feel which causes my client to lag! Confused

Mr Rive
Gallente
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.31 09:19:00 - [73]
 

you had 52 bubbles on a gate, about 20 of them were larges and actually contributing to bubbling the gate, the rest were there because either someone was bored, or to create lag. Stop trying to milk it.

When we jumped in the 20 bubbles on the gate were enough to stop us, why did you need to put up a bunch of medium and smalls when we went to jump out?

Please continue though your tears are delicious

Bernadictus
Caldari
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.31 09:38:00 - [74]
 

NC camps h-w ATLAS POS 'grape-cage' style. No problem, we'll take our losses.
PL gets smacked in the face. Runs of crying to the GM's for reimbursement and removal of the bubbles.

Real pro PL.

Hinkledolph
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.31 09:39:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Zaber Xavier
havent bs yall. thats un didnt yall. ccp bs yall actuall dont pre domion


Are you some kind of redneck sorcerer?




Hyveres
Caldari
Resilience.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.05.31 09:55:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ?
If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.
If blackscreening the hostiles was our goal IT would not have petitioned for node reinforcement.

Kriger
Caldari
Old Farts Rest Home
Posted - 2010.05.31 10:06:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Hyveres
If blackscreening the hostiles was our goal IT would not have petitioned for node reinforcement.


Man dont tell them that, you are gonna burst their.. wait for it.. BUBBLE! Shocked



Mr Rive
Gallente
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.31 10:13:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Bernadictus
NC camps h-w ATLAS POS 'grape-cage' style. No problem, we'll take our losses.
PL gets smacked in the face. Runs of crying to the GM's for reimbursement and removal of the bubbles.

Real pro PL.


Pretty sure we won the isk war

Especially with those popped bubbles

Rover Vitesse
Gallente
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.05.31 10:35:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Mr Rive
Originally by: Bernadictus
NC camps h-w ATLAS POS 'grape-cage' style. No problem, we'll take our losses.
PL gets smacked in the face. Runs of crying to the GM's for reimbursement and removal of the bubbles.

Real pro PL.


Pretty sure we won the isk war

Especially with those popped bubbles


Already been reimbursed pal. Rolling Eyes

Thercon Jair
Minmatar
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.05.31 10:42:00 - [80]
 

So, wait, we're bashing each other about lag, what causes it and if it was intended to cause lag, while CCP sits back, and laughs as they just pulled the political party trick #1? Blame someone else, and watch as the blamed groups tear each other apart. ;)

How about "CCP fix your bloody game"?

It is so much fun to completely lag to death with 300 people in system. It's so much fun to pull in your drones and lose a couple to netherspace while doing so, each time, until you have none left. It's fun to use fighters, have the node crash, petition for the loss of your fighters just to hear "logs show nothing". Wait? You don't know when your node crashes?

I hope CCP finally finds the faulty bit of code that they introduced with Dominion...

Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.05.31 10:57:00 - [81]
 

I feel for IT. I really do. CCP pulled the same trick on us when we anchored 100 GSC's in the shape of a giant space dong.

Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.05.31 11:02:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Hyveres
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ?
If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.
If blackscreening the hostiles was our goal IT would not have petitioned for node reinforcement.


For some reason I really doubt you did. Because it's in IT's interest for the node to be unavailable.

Don't worry, I'm sure PL would have.

Garreth Vlox
Minmatar
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2010.05.31 11:14:00 - [83]
 

*****just to compare this, in h-w it took me like 30 minutes to even get in game*******

bull**** it wasn't the bubbles but nice try, had more to do with 600+ ppl beinging in that system 23 hours a day for the next week after your fail fight. and yes there were bubbles, 5-6 t2 larges per pos with one exception where we ran out of larges and had to use smalls, better luck next troll

Lumbermill
Caldari
Senex Legio
Get Off My Lawn
Posted - 2010.05.31 11:21:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: mkd0815
i think the GM's did already inform IT FC's that anchoring 50+ bubbles at a Gate was creating massive Lag during jumpin when they removed 70+ Large Bubbles during the last big fight in PXF when IT Pets with help from a small IT fleet did do the same thing.

if they had setup the bubbles to cover a maxim area of effect so everybody would need to burn out 80KM perhaps it would be different but stacking them up all on top of each other only serves the reason to maximize the lag players jumping in experience and it gives the enemy better chances to kill the enemy while they are still loading the grid and are defenceless

+1 i seem to remeber IT crying about lag in H-W. its not the first time they have used this form of tactic to win a fight.

Ryan Powers
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Posted - 2010.05.31 11:22:00 - [85]
 

Edited by: Ryan Powers on 31/05/2010 11:22:28
Barqs does a better job bubbling gates, imo.

Enjoy your Memorial Day, or regular Monday. Celebrate by grilling up pigs and cows all day long!

Edit: Also, you seem to be implying that Tyrannis in fact, did not fix the lag?

Terrorisma
Minmatar
Cataclysm Enterprises
Ev0ke
Posted - 2010.05.31 11:24:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas
I feel for IT. I really do. CCP pulled the same trick on us when we anchored 100 GSC's in the shape of a giant space dong.


I can remember it was because of your stupid alliance, that this part of the EULA was created... back in XZH where you tried to get a station system without the ability to really take it over...

hybridundertaker
Amarr
coracao ardente
Posted - 2010.05.31 11:41:00 - [87]
 

70 is many and maybe few dozens more then needed but frankly any number significantly lower will get poped 2 fast.

on another note (as i rarly post so ill use this chance to whine moar) new overview update speed is like crap.

Orb Lati
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.05.31 11:56:00 - [88]
 

All I can say is if we have a GM arbitrary deleting warp bubbles because he thinks they cause lag, perhaps we might get a GM to delete Dominion which we know causes lag.

We can only hope Razz

Hinkledolph
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.31 12:00:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Orb Lati
All I can say is if we have a GM arbitrary deleting warp bubbles because he thinks they cause lag, perhaps we might get a GM to delete Dominion which we know causes lag.

We can only hope Razz


+1

Welshy RL
Gallente
Department of Damnation
ROYAL NAVY.
Posted - 2010.05.31 13:04:00 - [90]
 

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