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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Eve Industrial Corp

Posted - 2010.07.12 19:09:00 - [2191]
 

Don't normally support or not support posts, but this should be the biggest priority since the Founding Fathers of New Eden, sat down and made notes on what they wanted Eve to be in all its glory.

Plus 1 emphatically.

Dariah Stardweller
Gallente
NO U111 Enterprises
Posted - 2010.07.12 19:22:00 - [2192]
 

Well, as we can read in the meeting minuts from the CCP/CSM meet, CCP will NOT commit to excellence.

Plz all unsubscribe to make clear how you feel about this :P

Kazn Antilli
Incompertus INC
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.07.12 19:51:00 - [2193]
 

"It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features"

and there it is.


Abandon all hope, etc etc?

progodlegend
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.07.12 20:32:00 - [2194]
 

CCP fix my game please? I mean ****, even with dominion, we had a 1000 man fight in provi in febuary, now reinforced nodes are starting to lag out with 600 in them, its getting ridiculous. Something has got to fix this, I personally wouldn't oppose a roll back to like Apocrypha.

Pr1ncess Alia
Posted - 2010.07.12 23:32:00 - [2195]
 

Originally by: Kazn Antilli
"It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features"

and there it is.


Abandon all hope, etc etc?


Management will believe what it wants to believe, and they will find data to support their claims. Works the same everywhere and the only way any of them come around is when they fail and all the pointing fingers and data in the world can't save them from a swift 'restructuring'.

The CSM notes depressed me beyond belief. It's not that CCP doesn't want to succeed, it's that they believe their own B.S. regarding how to get there instead of following the proven successes they achieved as a young company.




Fact is, I'm not sure there is even anyone in a technical position at CCP that could understand how to fix the server issues we currently have.
The people that did understand this stuff are busy blowing smoke up their own you know whats as managers, or have moved on.


Yes, while they will keep getting my $$ for a few more months (not like i'd get a refund) I think I'm just going to have to let the current billing sub. run out and find something else to do.



New shiny's are fun and all, we all like innovation... but they seem to forget that their Commitment to Excellence should include, SOMEWHERE, a commitment to making the single shard universe actually work. If you can't have a fleet fight in eve... that's like a burger joint that can't make good burgers.

Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.07.12 23:58:00 - [2196]
 

Edited by: Pherusa Plumosa on 12/07/2010 23:58:17
yes pls

Mythago
Posted - 2010.07.13 00:17:00 - [2197]
 

Adding my plus one to improve the game

Ronaldo Carrare
RR Financial Services
Posted - 2010.07.13 00:18:00 - [2198]
 

Since you're not going to fix anything until Incarna/Dust123, I won't be playing it until then either, this issue gets my support.

Wintron Auto
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.07.13 04:33:00 - [2199]
 

Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Well, as we can read in the meeting minuts from the CCP/CSM meet, CCP will NOT commit to excellence.

Plz all unsubscribe to make clear how you feel about this :P


lolz I support this initiative - mebbe I'll go cancel a couple of my accounts right now; hell, when I was logged in earlier, I couldn't keep ONE account logged in for five minutes straight, let alone three or four (wtb moar closed sockets plz)

Originally by: Kazn Antilli
"It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features"

and there it is.


Abandon all hope, etc etc?


ccccccccc it feels like they take us about as seriously as we take them, amirite? go ahead and push the new features for those better sales CCP, see where it takes you - hey by the way, who remembers SWG and Planetside?

/frustration

Zemkhoff
Posted - 2010.07.13 06:24:00 - [2200]
 

Down to one account now.

Belid Hagen
Resilience.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.07.13 07:04:00 - [2201]
 


Matroxion
Gallente
Chickens with an Attitude

Posted - 2010.07.13 07:07:00 - [2202]
 

Supported!

Stocktons
Posted - 2010.07.13 07:09:00 - [2203]
 

Supported for sure!

wrap it
Posted - 2010.07.13 08:27:00 - [2204]
 

Nice CSM minutes. The guys making the decisions in CCP don't listen to the player base, and in the end it will hurt the company.

Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us

Posted - 2010.07.13 08:34:00 - [2205]
 

I don't think I ever gotmto the point of actually supporting this, but after reading the minutes from the summit, I figured it's time to unsub. Gonna make as much noise as I possibly can before my sub runs out however Evil or Very Mad

Drakoulia
Caldari
Resource Collection and Management
Tri Sol Syndicate
Posted - 2010.07.13 08:43:00 - [2206]
 

Edited by: Drakoulia on 13/07/2010 08:45:10
Usually don't support topics here and all, but I have to support this proposal after reading the last CSM notes.

King Gore
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.07.13 08:52:00 - [2207]
 

Posting in my first Assembly Hall Thread.

Malienna
Posted - 2010.07.13 09:17:00 - [2208]
 

ccc

Eelis Kiy
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2010.07.13 10:02:00 - [2209]
 

Supported

Dav Varan
Posted - 2010.07.13 10:03:00 - [2210]
 

More quality please.

Kolombus
Posted - 2010.07.13 11:26:00 - [2211]
 


Colonel Baal
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.

Posted - 2010.07.13 11:52:00 - [2212]
 

this please...

FloppyDisc7227
Posted - 2010.07.13 12:13:00 - [2213]
 

Edited by: FloppyDisc7227 on 13/07/2010 12:13:18
Meh I have to do this:

I love EVE, please don't destroy what I love! Sad
Fix the broken stuff, give us an improved game.
I don't care for features right now, an expansion devoted to bugs and issues would be what most here would want.
I still love CCP, my devotion is strong, but not infinitely big, at some point I might break as well.

Incarna and Dust may be nice things, but if it destroys EVE in the progress, what's the point of the dream?

Chi Quan
Bibkor Enterprises

Posted - 2010.07.13 12:14:00 - [2214]
 

fully supporting

knowing corporate behavior all too well however, i fear that the only "fix" we get will either get no meeting minutes next time or everything being under NDA.

i just wish i had read the minutes before extending yesterday. (pleas take this as a simple unemotional statement and nothing else)

GodofHELL
Posted - 2010.07.13 12:18:00 - [2215]
 

Edited by: GodofHELL on 13/07/2010 12:19:04
FULLY SUPPORTED.

I'd much rather have less content with more polish; the idea that the opposite is more appealing to consumers is just boneheaded.

Foulque
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2010.07.13 12:41:00 - [2216]
 

+1ing dis

Johnipm
Everset Dropbears
Posted - 2010.07.13 13:52:00 - [2217]
 

Edited by: Johnipm on 13/07/2010 13:52:23
After reading the minutes it's clear too me we all should support this.

Eshamanjaro
Posted - 2010.07.13 14:02:00 - [2218]
 


Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2010.07.13 14:15:00 - [2219]
 

Cannot support this enough.

Shandir
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.07.13 14:22:00 - [2220]
 

*IF* CCP actually stuck to the Excellence mark on Dust and Incarna, then I would be okay with waiting till they went by to get back to existing content.
But I don't believe they will, if the last two expansions are anything to go by, if the minutes are a sign of things to come...
Dust and Incarna will be half-finished, and they will both flop dramatically - this means less money for EVE, it means Dust (which sounds like a potentially really awesome thing for EVE) will not have the activity numbers to make it worth bringing up to scratch, either, and Incarna won't get the support it needs to really become something worth having.
CCP need to reduce the number of expansions and improve the quality.
They need to go back to previous expansions and bring them up to the mark of Excellence.
And they need to realise that EVE has been built on slowly increasing subscriber numbers of exceptionally loyal fans - the quantity over quality mentality they give *cannot* continue to support EVE's slow but inevitable growth - it will make this game a boom and bust like so many before it.


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