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5pinDizzy
Amarr
Pillow Fighters Inc
Posted - 2010.05.27 14:47:00 - [1]
 

Yes it looks nice and yeah it resembles its namesake, it was a bit of a shock for me I thought the Moa would be top of the list for a change, old scorpion didn't look that bad, just ask the forum whiners. But I suppose CCP wouldn't change their habit of ignoring tech 1 and navy cruisers.

I suppose I'd like to ask about the design direction of eve ships?

Are all Isometric styled ships in danger of heading for the bin?

Hardly any other ship could make the boast the scorpion could in bold design, being a very unusual half sided Isometric shape, now it's just another copy and paste from right side to left, like over 90% of the other ship designs.

Do most people as a matter of cause find non symmetry ugly?

On top of that its obviously not same generation as the other models, it's graphics are of a slightly higher standard and they seem to have fallen into the design pitfall of making shading/shadows darker and darker, like the Director of Aliens versus predator 2, if they make a new ship with lighting any darker, I'm going to have to have to wear a radiation suit playing eve as I crank up the gamma.

The navy camo version looks nothing like the other navy camo ships.

The gurista version looks nothing like the other gurista camo ships.

The one thing I would like constistency on is paint jobs, especially when the new navy scorpion paintjob is damn ugly, it looks like a streaky bogey, or something they crawled out a swamp/sewer.

Are CCP designers doing a sort of free reign random willy nilly style on the different camo ships, depending what mood they're in, or can we expect a reskin/remodel on all the other unsymmetrical/variants of caldari ships in future?

I can't imagine what two mirrored moas glued together with ugly navy colours would like like though.

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2010.05.27 14:56:00 - [2]
 

You're COMPLAINING about the new SCORP??? Shocked

Oooh, you're that guy.

Hadriel3
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:01:00 - [3]
 

Read the devblog, the scorpion is the first ship to be re-skinned using an entirely new shader... Since they were doing that they thought they might as well give it a new model too. Other ships will get a new shader skin (and possibly a new model) soon (TM).

And personally I hated the old scorpion model, about as much as I hate the the moa's, blackbird's and raven's current models.

JS LiamElms
Gallente
Zor Industries
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:08:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: JS LiamElms on 27/05/2010 15:10:29
Edited by: JS LiamElms on 27/05/2010 15:08:25
just want to mention 2 things here...

caldari prime is earth? cause thats pretty amazing that out of all time and space, a scorpion could look and be called a scorpion from 2 different places at 2 different times..

second... ofc, if someone brought it from earth.... EVOLUTION took a big ass fat back seat on that one then?

edit; i am terribad and spelling

final edit;
why could they just have redsigned the t2 models of the t1 hulls??

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:10:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: JS LiamElms

You might want to start at a more basic level, like why everyone speaks English.

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:12:00 - [6]
 

Moved from General Discussion to Ships & Modules.

P.S the new model does indeed look awesome Razz

Von Kapiche
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:13:00 - [7]
 

Maybe the designer saw it in an ancient history book and really really liked it? it'd be like someone irl designing a plane that looked like a Pteranodon or some other flying dinosaur, a lot cooler than designing a tank to look like say, a Wombat ( although wombats *are* cool modern creatures ). Unless scorpions made the trip there too, to a caldari it's just going to look like an agressive and somewhat natural shape.

t1mmeh
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:14:00 - [8]
 

Although I love the new model, it would have been nice if all existing scorps remained as they were and all new builds from now on were the new shape.

It would make the old scorp a rarity in a few years (maybe nerf it a bit because it's the 'old' model).


Noran Ferah
Red Sky Morning
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:16:00 - [9]
 

They could have changed the icon when in dock, when you hit your 'ships' button.

That is still the old failscorpion.

LordThyGod
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:26:00 - [10]
 

new scorp looks awesome, but dont change my dragonbox(its a dragon ontop of a box and yo know it)

Guillieme Lohran
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:26:00 - [11]
 

Clear your cache.

The Drill
Posted - 2010.05.27 16:28:00 - [12]
 

+2 from me on the new Scorp looks sick. Great Job!Very Happy

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2010.05.27 16:48:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: JS LiamElms
Edited by: JS LiamElms on 27/05/2010 15:10:29
Edited by: JS LiamElms on 27/05/2010 15:08:25
just want to mention 2 things here...

caldari prime is earth? cause thats pretty amazing that out of all time and space, a scorpion could look and be called a scorpion from 2 different places at 2 different times..

second... ofc, if someone brought it from earth.... EVOLUTION took a big ass fat back seat on that one then?

edit; i am terribad and spelling

final edit;
why could they just have redsigned the t2 models of the t1 hulls??


If you look at the description of the Wolf or Jaguar ( I forget which ) one of them mentions that the ship is named after "a mythical beast noted for its ferocity" or something like that. Perhaps the Scorpion (and all the caldari ships) are named the same way.

el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2010.05.27 17:04:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: el caido on 27/05/2010 17:04:41
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
CCP wouldn't change their habit of ignoring tech 1 and navy cruisers
Umm ... what? T1 cruisers and navy cruisers have been given particular attention in recent years. A couple of the HACs really need attention in the cruiser department, if anything.

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Isometric
Guess again.

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Hardly any other ship could make the boast the scorpion could in bold design
If by 'bold', you mean 'horrible', I direct you to the Ibis, Bantam, Griffin, Moa, Blackbird, Osprey, Raven, and just about everything Minr*tard.

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Do most people as a matter of cause find non symmetry ugly?
Yes, in fact. However, I am with you that the old Scorp model was fine in its own right.

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
if they make a new ship with lighting any darker
Space is dark. Anyway, CCP seems to be on the path of phasing-out stars completely, so don't worry about it. Wink

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
The navy camo version looks nothing like the other navy camo ships
You meant to say: camo in space is f-ing pointless.

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
The gurista version looks nothing like the other gurista camo ships.
Again, camo in space was the worst decision since the 2000 US presidential election.

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Are CCP designers doing a sort of free reign random willy nilly style on the different camo ships, depending what mood they're in
Yes, that is precisely their job description, from what I can tell.

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
or can we expect a reskin/remodel on all the other unsymmetrical/variants of caldari ships in future?
Probably. And history shows there is nothing you (or we) can do about it.

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
unsymmetrical
Getting warmer ...

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
I can't imagine what two mirrored moas glued together with ugly navy colours would like like though
You will find out soon enough.

Oh, and where's the new new cyno effect? Hmm ...

Hurtado Soneka
Caldari
Vindicare Temple
Posted - 2010.06.01 02:52:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Hadriel3
Read the devblog, the scorpion is the first ship to be re-skinned using an entirely new shader... Since they were doing that they thought they might as well give it a new model too. Other ships will get a new shader skin (and possibly a new model) soon (TM).

And personally I hated the old scorpion model, about as much as I hate the the moa's, blackbird's and raven's current models.


this +1

I would also add the griffin and condor...seriously ccp give it some love, apart from making caldari nigh useless they need to be so ugly as well? :D

SickSeven
Simplistic Syndicate
Posted - 2010.06.01 03:01:00 - [16]
 

it's pretty much a proven fact that humans find symmetry appealing. The more symmetric someone's body is the more appealing they are to the opposite sex.

Therefore, Old Scorpion = FUGLY, new improved symmetrical Scorpion = SUPAH SECKSY

Now, Devs please apply new SUPAH SECKSY to the Typhoon and Dominix :)

Wet Ferret
Posted - 2010.06.01 03:12:00 - [17]
 

I liked the old Scorp model, honestly... but when I saw how incredibly awesome the new model was I totally forgot about it.

The new one is not symmetrical, btw.

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2010.06.01 06:01:00 - [18]
 

Old model was Balls. New model is on par with Rohk in terms of goodness. And that's pretty damn good.

Anyways be sure to buy your Navy Scorp today!Cool

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2010.06.01 07:13:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Wet Ferret
I liked the old Scorp model, honestly... but when I saw how incredibly awesome the new model was I totally forgot about it.

The new one is not symmetrical, btw.


Your sig is outdated now, the sound actually works again.

Betray
Caldari
Substitute Traitors
Posted - 2010.06.01 07:18:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: SickSeven

Now, Devs please apply new SUPAH SECKSY to the Typhoon and Dominix :)


dont remember typhoon... but isnt domi symmetric? ugh

Lt Angus
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.06.01 07:28:00 - [21]
 

the old one was bad but the new one looks like a happy meal toy, yep the best happy meal toy ever but still...

Ramiera DaMorre
Posted - 2010.06.01 07:34:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: SickSeven

Now, Devs please apply new SUPAH SECKSY to the Typhoon and Dominix :)


But they ARE symmetrical, ergo by your own words SUPAH SEXY. :p

Originally by: Sader Rykane
Your sig is outdated now, the sound actually works again.


My Mega Pulses don't agree with that sadly. Rolling Eyes

Shereza
Posted - 2010.06.01 09:13:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: 5pinDizzy
now it's just another copy and paste from right side to left, like over 90% of the other ship designs.


Incorrect. Almost correct, mind you, but not quite. If you look closely at it you'll see what looks to be a bridge on one half and what looks to be a spinning radar dish on the other half.

Frankly, the spinning dish has me annoyed because it has something nifty/spinny while the ishkur and eos lost their nifty/spinny parts when the "Trinity" engine went live. Rolling Eyes

Chi Quan
Bibkor Enterprises
Posted - 2010.06.01 11:01:00 - [24]
 

on the last fanfest, there was an event where a ship was designed live, it was a vertical minmatar BS. i bet they'll use that for the new phoon. although the current one isn't that shabby, it has that maaahh-i-iz-gonna-eat-joo look, just needs better gun placement.

Gligan
Posted - 2010.06.01 11:47:00 - [25]
 

the masses get what the masses want - still 100 ... people yelling something doesn't make em right.


Scorpion was so unique that people could recognize it from far away just by glancing at it.

The scorpion's role was unique too - very apt to it's shape.

It wasn't a ship to be admired or "loved" - it wasn't a snugly little bunny. You see that ship and you think twice - it's very shape subconsciously telling you - flee or be bitten.

Now it's a blah ship - "Yeah - it must be a scorpion, hell look at the sign right there. Yeah I know it doesn't look like one - yeah.. just burn it all , ето система наша"

icecooljon
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.06.01 12:59:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: JS LiamElms

You might want to start at a more basic level, like why everyone speaks English.

Because every game should be in lots of languages so that players cant understand and have to use a translator o/
Bare in mind that EVE is still a game and therefore has to be playable.


 

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