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Krathos Morpheus
Legion Infernal
Posted - 2010.05.27 18:20:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Claudia Voltaire
Blizz are doing it with warcraft.

3 bucks a month just to play with the market: Linkage

Hard to see blizzard not making a mint on that, suprised ccp's responce to extra income is met with a shrug.

Imagine if (when) it works out, it'll find it's way to the ipad.
CCP will put the market on EVE Gate for free. /shock

Not that I like that with the current state of .01 warriors and macros...

Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2010.05.27 18:32:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: northwesten
Edited by: northwesten on 27/05/2010 14:29:55
I doubt the CCP would support it. As my self I see the Ipad a fail anyway!
I concur with this statement.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.27 18:39:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: bnogo
ipad is fail due to several factors, but is selling well due to apple fanboys.

It is nothing but a larger ipod. it cannot multitask. it is not a computer. it is an ipod with a bigger screen.

people want it, because it is apple, and hard to find. that is all.

that said, i wouldn't mind being able to log to eve via ipad,iphone,droid phones. but its not worth it really in the end i would bet.

a million units sold in under a month = hard to find?

lol whos the fanboi?

EspadaGhostZ
Posted - 2010.05.28 01:44:00 - [34]
 

well in terms of the hardware most hardcore users will see it as a fail but with its capabilities, it is still possible for eve to develop a client to run on it further more a million unit is not just a figure, its real unit and profit hahaha....

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2010.05.28 02:19:00 - [35]
 

Guise, I, too, want to pay $800 for an oversized iPhone. Can I be part of the Apple cult too? YARRRR!!

Raydn James
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.05.28 02:47:00 - [36]
 

The iPad is a massive piece of crap and not everything Apple makes is the Jesus version of whatever product they've slapped in aluminum and released to the sheeple. We have an iPad at my office for showing off touch panels and pictures, it does NOTHING remarkably well and is annoying as crap because I cant do 2 things at once.

The day EVE is available on that massive piece of **** is the day i quit paying for my whole 2 accounts.

TheBigDog
Posted - 2010.05.28 03:03:00 - [37]
 

I'm a hardcore PC lover and certainly no Apple fanboy and I flippin LOVE my IPAD.
Is it a gadget? Of course.
Does it do anything something else cant do? NO.
Is it ****ing cool? Absolutely, and I love it.

I wouldn't want to play eve on it, but if I could change skills from it, that would be nice. Although the aforementioned remote PC manipulation might do the trick nicely.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2010.05.28 04:04:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Super Whopper on 28/05/2010 04:05:54
Originally by: TheBigDog
I'm a hardcore PC lover and certainly no Apple fanboy and I flippin LOVE my IPAD.
Is it a gadget? Of course.
Does it do anything something else cant do? NO.
Is it ****ing cool? Absolutely, and I love it.

I wouldn't want to play eve on it, but if I could change skills from it, that would be nice. Although the aforementioned remote PC manipulation might do the trick nicely.


How can a device you pay so much for, but can only do one thing at a time, despite all of it's power, be cool? It's crippled and ******ed. But, there're enough idiots out there who will buy it, to continue belonging to the Apple cult.

My ****ty Omnia II can do a hell of a lot more than that iPad, it even overclocks, which I haven't tried yet.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.28 04:17:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Super Whopper
Edited by: Super Whopper on 28/05/2010 04:05:54
Originally by: TheBigDog
I'm a hardcore PC lover and certainly no Apple fanboy and I flippin LOVE my IPAD.
Is it a gadget? Of course.
Does it do anything something else cant do? NO.
Is it ****ing cool? Absolutely, and I love it.

I wouldn't want to play eve on it, but if I could change skills from it, that would be nice. Although the aforementioned remote PC manipulation might do the trick nicely.


How can a device you pay so much for, but can only do one thing at a time, despite all of it's power, be cool? It's crippled and ******ed. But, there're enough idiots out there who will buy it, to continue belonging to the Apple cult.

My ****ty Omnia II can do a hell of a lot more than that iPad, it even overclocks, which I haven't tried yet.


Because it can do one thing at a time in a smaller area with a smaller mass for longer amounts of time.

Karlemgne
Tides Of War
Posted - 2010.06.03 05:51:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Karlemgne on 03/06/2010 05:51:46
The iPad hate I find to be rather humorous. Seriously, you hate the idea of this device soooo ****ing much there are some of would be prepared to do the ultimate whine--threaten to cancel your accounts if any type of workable client is developed by CCP for the device. Even if its just to change skills and browse the market.

Talk about fanboi behavior, and I am not even sure what type of fanboi you are. Apple hatred fanboizm?

And yes, I own an iPad. It is the first piece of apple hardware I have purchased in 7 years. And yes I build my own PCs (the fact that these have to come in as disclaimers when discussing Apple products in these conversations says it all).

Why did I buy it? I bought it because I am academic and I needed a tablet like device. I don't want a ****ing netbook, before you say anything, I want something in this form to deal with what I do professionally and I didn't want to wait for the Microsoft Courier (nor get an actual tablet PC).

The device does its job for me, is heavily supported, and looks like it will remain so. That the device has sold 2 million units cannot be chalked up to pure fanboi Apple fans and testifies to the fact that it will continue to be supported despite your collective whiny iPad ****fests and protestations.

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2010.06.03 06:40:00 - [41]
 

I except for using the market and setting up skills etc, i really can't see why anyone would want to run eve on the ipad, and i don't think anyone would port the game to a mobile device just for doing character administration.

Still the iDroid and linux for iphone is showing some really fast progress, and eve does have an linux client. It will properly need alot of work to get the eve linux client to run on idevices, and i'm not even sure if the idevice platforms have the hardware resources to support the game.

There may also be some legal issues in porting the linux client to idevices, you would need a jailbroken device to be able to install and run linux on the device, and i think apple properly would take legal steps to prevent other companies from using jailbroken idevices to run proprietary software.

ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.06.03 06:45:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 27/05/2010 17:15:09
Wut

The iPad has a single core 1 ghz processor. It couldn't run EVE even if CCP did port it to the iphone OS.


If you want to run EVE on a very mobile platform, get a good netbook (some of them can actually run it decently). In fact, you pretty much should have just purchased a netbook in the first place.


Don't try to reason with Macintosh fans. Remember, most of them believed the commercials which told them Macs were the gaming computers, and all you can do with a 'PC' is make spreadsheets, among other laughable things.


Yeh apple doesnt have **** on this eve is not ordinary spreadsheet, its a spreadsheet in space!Very Happy

Sola Veritas
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.06.03 08:53:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Sola Veritas on 03/06/2010 08:59:16


The hate is strong in these users. /flamesuit

Originally by: bnogo

It is nothing but a larger ipod. it cannot multitask. it is not a computer. it is an ipod with a bigger screen.


It wasn't supposed to be a computer. It's exactly an iPod with a bigger screen. That was the point.

Purpose by design is not a flaw. If people don't like the design, they won't buy it. But the numbers are in favor.

Good design is good. That's all it really comes down to. Bad products fail: Zune. Or they are put on life support: MSIE. Evil or Very Mad Or they never come to exist at all: Microsoft's tablet (never saw the light of day).

A company's philosophy at the top ultimately gets reflected in its products at the bottom, for better or for worse (and by no means do I think Apple's philosophy is perfect—that's why the Apple vs. Google fight is so interesting—two very forward thinking companies, but with very different philosophies).

(For the record, I wait for the day that MS finally pulls the plug on MSIE. It gains them no profit anyway… it feels like they try to keep up with things like HTML5 only to honor their history as the winners of the browser wars. Oh Firefox—the irony!)

Muscaat
EVE Markets
Posted - 2010.06.03 09:18:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: dexington
...eve does have an linux client. It will properly need alot of work to get the eve linux client to run on idevices, and i'm not even sure if the idevice platforms have the hardware resources to support the game.


There's no Linux EVE client. You can run the Windows client through Wine, but Wine only runs on x86 architectures. The iPad is based on ARM, so although you could get Linux running on it you wouldn't be able to compile Wine.

But there's a deeper issue here, surely: the Jobsian campaign against Adobe means that the only language you're allowed to write iP{ad|hone} programs in is Objective-C. Interpreters and virtual machines are strictly forbidden. Since most of EVE is written in Python, it would require a Python interpreter which means Apple would never let it get on the App Store...

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2010.06.03 10:14:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Muscaat
But there's a deeper issue here, surely: the Jobsian campaign against Adobe means that the only language you're allowed to write iP{ad|hone} programs in is Objective-C. Interpreters and virtual machines are strictly forbidden. Since most of EVE is written in Python, it would require a Python interpreter which means Apple would never let it get on the App Store...


Python has been ported to iDevices and is part of the standard cydia package repository, but i think you are right when it comes to never seeing it as part of the app store software collection.

Blasphemour
Posted - 2010.06.03 12:39:00 - [46]
 

Yes, they will make a client for the iPad... the iPad which uses a completely different architecture than EVE was developed for...
They won't make a native Mac client, but sure, they'll make a client for your 'I'm a huge cell phone that cannot make calls' iPod...sorry, iPad.

I'm a huge Mac fan, but anything that has something to do with iPod, iPhone and iPad is just fail... Overpriced, underspecced, overhyped and under-performing gadgets that have no real use but 'whoa look at my bling'.

Albetta
Gallente
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2010.06.03 12:41:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Nomen Luni
Edited by: Nomen Luni on 27/05/2010 14:36:47
The Ipad is a system, That system is our enemy. look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.




Is that a quote from ghost in the shell?

Matthew Riyan
Gallente
X.T.Corp
Posted - 2010.06.03 13:01:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Albetta
Originally by: Nomen Luni
Edited by: Nomen Luni on 27/05/2010 14:36:47
The Ipad is a system, That system is our enemy. look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.




Is that a quote from ghost in the shell?


facepalmfail.jpg

GauteGodager
Posted - 2010.06.03 13:48:00 - [49]
 

It's from the 1st matrix movie iirc

Lead Six
Posted - 2010.06.03 15:48:00 - [50]
 

Stop giving money to Apple. That is all.

-LS

Captain Mastiff
Posted - 2010.06.03 16:15:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones


They've sold like half a billion dollars worth in less than a month. If ipad is fail i want to fail hard at life.


So that's what 5 over priced iPads? Well Apple have stupidly over priced products with low build quality the cost for components and labour is so small its untrue how many people are stupid enough to buy the products.

Super restrictive on what you can do
a new version comes out every 6 months
over priced
limited capability
does less than an equivalent tablet pc
makes man boys go crazy


En Passant
Posted - 2010.06.03 16:27:00 - [52]
 

Seriously..

It could never run on the iPad because then EVE would have to use a different Font, and god knows that would violate the laws of spacetime.

Sujanra Acoma
Minmatar
Shadow Kitty Legion
Rura-Penthe
Posted - 2010.06.03 16:33:00 - [53]
 

What a thread derail.

Anyway, haters gonna hate. I thought the iPad was a ridiculous concept until I got to play with one. Now I rather like it- it's slick, it's great for media consumption (video, browsing, ebooks), and I can use it at work by using an RDP app.

It's not MEANT to be a desktop replacement. If you can't think of a use for it, don't buy the darn thing; but I can.

Is there anything more rabid than an anti-Apple fanboy?

Kephael
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.06.03 16:46:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Kephael on 03/06/2010 16:46:25
Buy a laptop.

Originally by: Sujanra Acoma
What a thread derail.

Anyway, haters gonna hate. I thought the iPad was a ridiculous concept until I got to play with one. Now I rather like it- it's slick, it's great for media consumption (video, browsing, ebooks), and I can use it at work by using an RDP app.

It's not MEANT to be a desktop replacement. If you can't think of a use for it, don't buy the darn thing; but I can.

Is there anything more rabid than an anti-Apple fanboy?


That sounds like a laptop.

Ran Khanon
Amarr
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
Posted - 2010.06.03 16:48:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Sujanra Acoma
Is there anything more rabid than an anti-Apple fanboy?

A Windows hating Apple fan boy for one.
And I speak with 8 years of experience working in the graphics industry and being surrounded by them ^_^

Myth Al'kar
ASCENTIS CORPORATION
Free Worlds Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.03 22:00:00 - [56]
 

The ipad is a pretty handy thing to have around.

The younger crowd tends to get caught up in nvidia vs ati, intel vs amd, windows vs mac, etc

After you've been around a bit and tried about everything you learn to judge each product on its own merits.

Yes, the ipad is a larger and much faster touch, but thats not a bad thing.

I can surf the web about as fast as I could from my computer, and it turns on and is ready pretty much instantly.

Honest Nonlabor
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
Posted - 2010.06.03 22:08:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Honest Nonlabor on 03/06/2010 22:33:04
Edited by: Honest Nonlabor on 03/06/2010 22:13:04
Edited by: Honest Nonlabor on 03/06/2010 22:11:04
Edited by: Honest Nonlabor on 03/06/2010 22:09:22
Well i posted this earlier elsewhere.

This is EvE running on my phone, Motorola DROID, overclocked to 1.3 GHz and running a custom ROM (Bugless Beast 1.1) as well as a host of other improvements.

EvE on an ANDROID Phone
EvE spaceflight and interaction on a DROID phone

I just filmed that last night actually, camera sucks yea yea its done using my wife's ERIS, one handed. Ill post space flight videos and whatnot people want IF theirs actually interest.

Now, this is virtualization mirrored off a PC. People can cry all they want, but 1. Im not rewriting either WINE for non x86 mobile processors and im also not going to rewrite the eve engine for a mototola chip and all that fun stuff and 2. alot of us do leave our clients running all day (AFK cloaker, traders, CEO's, etc).

Average FPS is 20ish give or take in station or orbiting outside it. Color depth is still set to 32b with alpha on, PC side 1680x1050. Toss that down to 1/2 the resolution and youll be sitting in the high 30's easily. Physical keyboard i believe is a must for this, to many actions and while touch screen ONLY does work its pretty bad.

This is also filmed off wireless, it ALSO work in 3g only mode however I have wireless available most plaves I go but ill tell you now under 3g your best off doing little more than market PvP and chat (which is what I imagine ALOT of people do want this for!).
Ive been playing around with this also in classic Everquest emulated servers and oddly, EvE runs BETTER like this than a 10+ year old low resolution MMO. Id even wager eve is twice as playable as EQ! Personally I despise apple and the ipad (im waiting for a proper android pad, comming soon!) but this same technique will get ipoop people up and running eve but probably with, if anything, a lower frame rate due to various factors until someone figures out how to better streamline the OS and overclock the damn thing.

CCP Atropos

Posted - 2010.06.03 22:45:00 - [58]
 

Nice Cool

Gumdrop
Posted - 2010.06.04 00:24:00 - [59]
 

Ipad is the future,

The year is 2023, Obama is in his fourth term of office, every school child has an Ipad and a government assigned Pediatrician. Life is good.

Kyusoath Orillian
Haters Gonna Hate
Posted - 2010.06.04 00:25:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: EspadaGhostZ
well just a suggestion, eve should be made playable on Ipad then it would be a gay one haha....


this is a forum for eve online not homosexual support



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