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CCP Fallout

Posted - 2010.05.27 02:04:00 - [1]

(I apologize for not making this sooner!)

Please post any issues and feedback you have regarding the Mac client in this thread. If you are reporting an issue, please provide as much detail as possible, including your hardware set up and OS X version.

Evelyn Tyr
EntroPrelatial Vanguard
Posted - 2010.05.27 03:33:00 - [2]

Running the client in background (either windowed or fullscreen) slows down the whole system. This effect is greatly diminished when having the stellar map (flattened) up.

Nothing scientific, but I suspect a problem with Ciderwrap 3D config/routines.

On another note, running fullscreen draws more CPU / heat than running windowed (same resolution/settings).

Serpents smile
Posted - 2010.05.27 05:11:00 - [3]

The sound, yes EVE has sound, after I've jumped through a stargate is borked up.

The moment I have jumped through I get a short *very* loud noise sound clip which I can only describe as like a heavy traffic highway.

Model Identifier: MacPro1,1
Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
OS X.6.2

Manpower Industries
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:12:00 - [4]

Edited by: Adelaid on 31/05/2010 06:52:58

Welcome Tyrannis,

Cheetah, 2 scan rigs
Sisiter expended probe launcher
Sister Core scanner probe

After a scan, results shows up in window as intended, filters working fine, but on screen, no red dot, no sphere no circle.

Jumping other system same thing, reloging not fixing the problem.
Scanning using onboard scanner and 0 probes, same bug.

Everyone have this problem ? NO
Is it only a MAC issue, no idea.

Using OS 10.5.8, everything else is fine so far (except for the bugs everyone have PC/MAC).

EDIT : Fixed by : Uninstall / download and install full EVE last release.

Posted - 2010.05.27 12:19:00 - [5]

I have the same sound issue as "Serpents smile" reports.
The moment I have jumped through a gate I get a short *very* loud noise sound Burst of static, like a heavy traffic highway.
I don't get it every time but have noticed the same static burst in the transition when docking. It seems to have been silenced by turning the world level slider to 0.

My Hardware
Model Identifier: MacPro4,1
Processor Name: 1 Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
OS X.6.3
Sound system Harmon/Kandon
Internet connection has a Satellite with 0.257 sec lag

Posted - 2010.05.27 13:47:00 - [6]

* Logging out crashes the client. Error reporting system returns error "The requested URL not found"

Delilah Fair
Posted - 2010.05.27 14:00:00 - [7]

Mac: Tyrannis client crashes at character selection screen
Build: 6.30.154366
Server: Tranquility

Description: Tyrannis client crashes at character selection screen. This happens either when selecting a character, or when selecting the start game button. The System Information and Crash Reporter window then crashes when selecting the continue button.

Computer: 2009 Macbook Pro; OS X 10.6.2; 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo; 4 GB memory, Nvidia GeForce 9400M; Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT.

Bug Report ID: 95930

Meita Way
Posted - 2010.05.27 16:29:00 - [8]

Edited by: Meita Way on 27/05/2010 16:29:46
I run EVE on a 2008 macbook pro, and I just want to say thanks! Tyrannis loads up about 3x faster, logs in 10x faster, and a lot of pauses while flying around/undocking are gone. Great bit of work. (And that's just with a plain auto upgrade, I've not cleared the cache or changed anything else at all).

Ryel Theon
Take A Wish Foundation
Posted - 2010.05.27 19:19:00 - [9]

Window controls in windowed mode are still broken in Tyrannis. I opened bug #89924 when it first happened with Dominion 1.0. Any update on when this might be fixed?

I've had one crash to desktop (unreproducible) and one error on logoff (as previously described in this thread or others).

Overall though, much improved over Dominion. The 3 most annoying usability bugs (sticky cursor on window edge, sticky control key, and disappearing control arrows on scan probes) all appear to be fixed and it does perform better than before. Though the slowdown issue with other applications while eve is in the background still happens, I agree with others that it might be better than before.

Oh and Tyrannis still runs my MBP very very hot even on minimal gfx settings.

Thanks for the pretty solid release. I hope we'll see more Mac-specific fixes in the Tyrannis point releases.


Loaria Abest
Posted - 2010.05.27 22:55:00 - [10]

Overall I think the client runs better. However logging off or quitting causes a crash every time. Thanks guys!

Jax Slizard
Posted - 2010.05.28 00:16:00 - [11]

I'm not sure if this is something I just noticed, but happened before or something new, but I am seen a lot more aliasing all over the place. Stations, gates, my ships, even the whatever-that-is on the login screen has aliasing along many edges. Again, this is something I just noticed, and isn't a huge deal, but it could be part of the graphics upgrade of ships.

This is after the first patch for the expansion. My setup is:
OS 10.6.3
Macbook Pro 3,1
Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz
2 Gig RAM
GeForce 8600M GT

Trion Roles
Archron Dusyfe Industries
Posted - 2010.05.28 03:38:00 - [12]

In trying to use Eve Gate with in game browser, the listbox drop box controls in mail and settings do not work. They do work on other browsers.

Lol. The same controls don't work in the box to post this using in game browser. Flash maybe? Macbook Pro 5,1, 10.6.3, 2gb

Posted - 2010.05.28 06:59:00 - [13]

Edited by: Hesiode on 28/05/2010 07:01:21
Many, many client crashes in window mode after warping and/or jump gate.
If I don't move, everything is fine

Posted - 2010.05.28 07:31:00 - [14]

I have encountered three issues:
1: Mac completely froze upon exiting the client, this didn't happen the second time
2: Client crashed in the middle of the game, could log in right after that
3: CTRL key still stuck on several occasions

Overall the performance seems to be better, especially starting up and logging in (As said before).

Graphics seem to be better and the client feels much more snappy.

Heat still is a big issue and doesn't seem to be improved. Single client gives me low 80's (c), dual client high 80's, as it was before Tyrannis, with fans running up to 6200rpm which is the maximum.

early 2009 MBP
4gb ram
NVidia 9600M/512mb
snow leopard (OS X 10.6.3)

Posted - 2010.05.28 12:06:00 - [15]

Edited by: Nonnosa on 28/05/2010 12:10:38
Also reporting the roaring sound intermittently when jumping through a gate.

I have had two CTD when jumping which is not as frequent as when Dominion was first released. The error reporter compiles and sends a report but isn't able to connect to Transgaming.

And an old bug: The jukebox doesn't finish playing the songs. It just stops halfway and starts playing the next one. A minor issue but I miss the soothing sounds of Miner Stories and I saw your ship. ;)

OSX 10.6.3
2.0 Ghz Intel core 2 duo Mac mini
GeForce 9400/128 Mb Ram
1 Gb Ram. (Yes, I need more)

Daan Sai
Posted - 2010.05.29 01:24:00 - [16]

Just to make sure it gets into the right thread, the graphics issue with all the polygons flashing (see other thread: Graphics Issue) still seems to be happening for me with the released version of Tyrannis. A pity as it seemed to go away for at least some of the SiSi test builds.

I've set "occluded sun" off for the moment, but it doesn't look nice :(


Client: 154366
Mac: iMac8,1, Intel Core duo, 2.66Ghz, 4GB RAM
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 2600 pro 256MB
OS: OSX 10.6.3

Serpents smile
Posted - 2010.05.29 06:49:00 - [17]

Upgraded from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3 and I too now have the crash upon exiting EVE. This didn't happen under 10.6.2

Posted - 2010.05.29 09:37:00 - [18]

Many many more crashes since Tyrranis, most of the mid game, for no reason either, I'd be in station or in space and without doing anything Eve would just crash. Exiting the client causes a buffer overflow all of the time.

The crash reporter only came up once in all of the crashes I had...and it froze itself.

MBP September 2009 model
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,3
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT

Posted - 2010.05.29 10:32:00 - [19]

Originally by: Morodarn
* Logging out crashes the client. Error reporting system returns error "The requested URL not found"

Logging out craches the client for me every time so far (5 times).

Capitalism and Freedom
Posted - 2010.05.29 11:51:00 - [20]

Edited by: Sublunar on 29/05/2010 11:55:27

1. Logging out crashes the client.
2. Minimised client *extremely* slows down the whole system - can't even type.
3. Crash reporter doesn't work.

Mac mini @ Snow Leopard 10.6.3
2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1067 MHz DDR3
GeForce 9400M

Farmer Kamikaze
Posted - 2010.05.29 12:49:00 - [21]

After logging in, the mouse is completely unusable. Left and right clicking has severely delayed (minutes) or no effect at all. I am unable to open any of the left hand icons or onscreen warp commands. Problem is also at the log in screen. Took nearly 4 minutes of fiddling to select main char and enter.

Crowded Igloo
Posted - 2010.05.29 14:10:00 - [22]

The random loud static burst is a serious problem. It wrecks the the game experience. I am also experiencing hard crashes where I have to reboot entirely. That does not happen on ay other program and did not happen before Tyrannis. If I could run in a window, it would be much less of a problem. Time the window problem was fixed.

Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac11,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 8 MB
Memory: 8 GB
Processor Interconnect Speed: 4.8 GT/s
Boot ROM Version: IM111.0034.B02

Lan Staz
Posted - 2010.05.30 08:04:00 - [23]

I am also seeing the logout crash; reported as bug 96198.

Kernel Flux
Intaki Armaments
Posted - 2010.05.30 16:55:00 - [24]

i have had numerous crashes/lockups while running multiple clients in windowed mode. Hard to reproduce because it happens randomly, mostly in space.

iMac, 2.66 GHz Core i5
4GB memory
OS 10.6.3
ATI Radeon HD 4850, 512MB VRAM

Farmer Kamikaze
Posted - 2010.05.31 08:04:00 - [25]

OK, tried re-installing client, disabled mZoom and some other things to no effect. Was about to create another account on the mac and install a second copy of client, decided to check if I had any outstanding OSX updates first. I did, installed the security updates and rebooted. Problem resolved. I suspect it had more to do with the reboot than the security patch. Sometimes even a mac needs a reboot?

Serpents smile
Posted - 2010.05.31 09:24:00 - [26]

Originally by: Farmer Kamikaze
Sometimes even a mac needs a reboot?

Yes it does you have several scripts that run in the background cleaning, whatever it is they are cleaning up. Razz

Looked a bit around, linky

Cozarti Noom
Posted - 2010.05.31 10:08:00 - [27]

1. Random crashes to desktop. At least twice so far, and I'm a sporadic player.
2. I've had the game freeze on logout several times, forcing a hard reboot of my iMac.
3. Still have those cursor problems sometimes -- maybe. Now that I think about it, the last time it happened was while I was downloading the expansion, prior to its installation.

About my Mac:

Snow Leopard: 10.6.3

Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac8,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: IM81.00C1.B00
SMC Version (system): 1.30f1

Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)

Resolution: 1920 x 1200

Posted - 2010.05.31 18:33:00 - [28]

So CCP, will there be any kind of update to these random crashes to desktop? It's getting quite annoying and lots of people are reporting them on the Mac... Rolling Eyes

Posted - 2010.06.01 09:03:00 - [29]

OK after a couple of days playing I can say that none of the (Mac related) bugs that would've been fixed according to the patch notes are indeed fixed.

- CTRL key still sticks, but a lot more often. Also, the ALT key does the same now!
- Random crashes to desktop without any error message popping up.
- Crashes when logging off or quitting the application altogether, with an error message. Crash reporter does not work
- Client freezes up and continues working 20~30 seconds later
- Windows still roam all over the place when logging in or after a session change (jumping, docking, whatever)
- Heat is an extreme issue. I have toned both clients down in graphic settings but it doesn't change a thing. Whether I run them medium/high or completely low, temperatures while running 2 clients still hit high 80's, sometimes even over 90.
While running single client this is low 80's so not much of a difference.
- Crash reporter, does it even work now? I have stopped reporting since the URL it pointed to wasn't there.

I can't say if the warp tunnel effect still glitches since I don't want to put everything high, afraid I might burn my legs.
Didn't try probing as well, but I've heard enough people who still have disappearing boxes.

I'm not one to rant or whine, but this is really ridiculous. Why do you say you have fixed something while you clearly have not? Was there anything tested at all?

There is quite a lot of people reporting stuff here, why is there no response whatsoever from CCP?
Should I create a bug report for everything I run in to, while a lot of people experience the same thing? You make an issues thread but you don't reply to anything reported in there.
In the regular thread the only constructive replies I have seen is 'please file a bug report and we'll look into it', which I think is bull... Why bother making a thread then?

Sorry for this, like I said I'm really not someone to whine or rant, but I am really disappointed by all of this.
EVE still is an awesome game but it is getting harder and harder to play because of these annoying bugs.

Posted - 2010.06.01 11:25:00 - [30]

Just noticed this...If I have the station environment DISABLED, eve uses much more CPU than if I have it ENABLED. The difference is about 15% CPU usage.

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