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Kern Hotha
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:39:00 - [151]
 

About all I can say about this expansion: thanks for nothing.

ryh
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:39:00 - [152]
 

The insurance change is common sense, they did it to stop / reduce insurance fraud.

It's a change that has been a long time coming.

Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:41:00 - [153]
 

Edited by: Zey Nadar on 27/05/2010 06:51:27
Edited by: Zey Nadar on 27/05/2010 06:44:29
Why is eve gate shoving broadcasts of REDS to me? I have like 30 pages of people and corps set red and I couldnt care less what they write in this stupid spacebook..

Issue: browsing the pages in eve gate contact list has a problem, when going from smaller number to larger number the page numbers dont scroll.
If theres pages like 1 2 3 4 ... 29
clicking the ... will make it jump to 6 7 8 ie. it will jump over one page.

Originally by: ellena allente
I absolutely do not like the new contact list because it lacks folders. The folders were very useful, and one of the best features of the old list.

Folders are nice in theory but they didnt really work to begin with once there were too many contacts.

ps. The planets are propably nice and you finally fixed the planet temperatures.. Good job. I know scorpion already looks great cause I saw it before. The economic changes will have to wait a bit before we see whether they are good or bad. I have a hunch they were just what eve needed though.

Mr Stargazer
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:47:00 - [154]
 

Edited by: Mr Stargazer on 27/05/2010 06:51:16
Originally by: ryh
The insurance change is common sense, they did it to stop / reduce insurance fraud.

It's a change that has been a long time coming.


yea, getting rid of fraud is ok, but crippling ability to participate in fights for pvp who dont enjoy carebearing is different, all this expansion is about and for carebears tbh. i didnt fly t2 because of that now i wont be able to afford to be in fight as much as i want without sacrificing more time for carebearing, which is crap, they forgot about pvp aspect of eve or what, could be more balanced...end of rant, thanks. Confused

Snorre Sturlasson
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:52:00 - [155]
 

Eve-gate is only made for one account. Most of my mates and I have more than one account. So please change that.

xaxoth
Posted - 2010.05.27 06:53:00 - [156]
 

Removing contact folders before the proposed replacement (tags) are ready to deploy is major fail.

Daan Sai
Polytrope
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:02:00 - [157]
 

Looks pretty, looking forward to PI.

But:

Widescreen mode was my prefered mode - esp good for module highights and the camera perspective was nice. Puzzled as to why it is gone. :(


Number column alignment in overview - I want to be able to put it back to left justified so I can squeeze the column to an absolute minimum without the leading spaces. ****at least make the column alignment a user choice!!!***** This is franklu a high handed poorly thought out change.

Daan

Xornicon Altair
Woopatang
Primary.
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:20:00 - [158]
 

No Alliance Logos = CCP Fail.

Let's get on this!

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1224403

WootChaun
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:28:00 - [159]
 

Everybody always wants something for nothing.

I can't believe how many people complain and whine and moan about a FREE expansion... Nobody here had to pay anything extra and the DL was smooth and quick. So what's the big deal?

Granted, yes, it is a little bit underwhelming but that's only because PI hasn't been fully implemented yet. Once it has, it'll add a whole new aspect to EVE and I for one am very much looking forward to it. In the mean time, just play the same game you were playing a couple days ago and wait patiently! I mean c'mon you play EVE don't you? You've gotta have at least SOME patience...

Thank you CCP for all your hard work it really shows in how amazing your game is and how no one else has even come close to doing anything remotely similar!
<3

Voltara Mina
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:30:00 - [160]
 

A bucketload of whine is expected when new patches is released and nothing is different here Laughing

It looks nice there was surprisingly little lag last night. Without patches, new stuff etc etc this game would stagnate and die. I have been playing this game since beginning of 2004 and when i hear people drivel about how much better the old patches was i have to laugh. Because it is bs. Short-time memory is strong in us and apparantly we tend to remember only the good stuff after a while.

This patch is a milestone and i for one embrace it. Alot of bugs and startup problems, but that comes with every patch. Nothing new and i dont understand why anyone is still surprised by that.

To the " i threaten to leave fellas" and "this patch sucks people". Please pack up your **** and leave if you dont like it. I wont miss you and im pretty certain noone else will.

Flame on!

Propoli
Minmatar
Piranha Protectorate
Skunk Works.
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:31:00 - [161]
 

Feedback:

Deployment: Great, no problems. Everything updated as planned. Good job.

Pros: Jukebox now playing next track, your sound department produces quality audio so its good to finally listen to all the tracks. Planet scanning looks nice, looking forward to be able to interact with them.

Cons: Folders gone, I used to use these in war decs so could split up different corps. Right aligned distance column makes no sense.

Overall for an "Expansion" its pretty dull. The PI stuff seems like its trying to be Civ but doesn't have the depth, although maybe you have plans to beef it up a bit.

I think what you have achieved with Eve is incredible but you seem to have lost your way a little bit.

I hope the next expansion feels more like one.

Cheers.

Freya Kesanlaulu
Minmatar
Arthashastra
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:36:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: WootChaun
Everybody always wants something for nothing.

I can't believe how many people complain and whine and moan about a FREE expansion... Nobody here had to pay anything extra and the DL was smooth and quick. So what's the big deal?

Granted, yes, it is a little bit underwhelming but that's only because PI hasn't been fully implemented yet. Once it has, it'll add a whole new aspect to EVE and I for one am very much looking forward to it. In the mean time, just play the same game you were playing a couple days ago and wait patiently! I mean c'mon you play EVE don't you? You've gotta have at least SOME patience...

Thank you CCP for all your hard work it really shows in how amazing your game is and how no one else has even come close to doing anything remotely similar!
<3


totally agree with you Cool

Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:43:00 - [163]
 

Good job overall CCP! Thank you for all of your hard work!

There are a few issues with the patch that need attention and I have put it in the issues thread and will send a petition to help the developers.

Im looking forward to getting PI up and running and already training the skills.

I love EVE Gate. A novel idea as I am sitting here with my coffee, catching up on the news and playing with my son while interacting with ingame ppl and checking on my char. I know some ppl diminish this hard work be calling it 'facebook for EVE' but I think they will be the ones using it most anyhow Cool

Good job!

Mind Crime
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:53:00 - [164]
 

well, i dont know whether its a bug or a feature:

1. you cant access or even look in pos corporate hangar arrays anymore if they are not online. is this wanted?

2. when compressing ore in a rorqual, in every run the input and output standard is "my hangar". you have to switch it everytime to "my cargohold" since nobody will compress out of his/her hangar. this is quite anoying. is it possible to change it one time to the desired option and make the client then remember this setting?

Arriyanna Blue
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:53:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: Mr Stargazer


yea, getting rid of fraud is ok, but crippling ability to participate in fights for pvp who dont enjoy carebearing is different, all this expansion is about and for carebears tbh. i didnt fly t2 because of that now i wont be able to afford to be in fight as much as i want without sacrificing more time for carebearing, which is crap, they forgot about pvp aspect of eve or what, could be more balanced...end of rant, thanks. Confused


last patch was for 0.0 - which means pvp
there must be some balance - not only pvp, and not only carebearing

zombiedeadhead
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2010.05.27 08:22:00 - [166]
 

Thanks for another expansion Cee Cee Pee, I dont care about a single feature in this one, but the whines, tears and internet emorage are as entertaining as always. These threads deliver. Very Happy

Cresalle
Posted - 2010.05.27 08:28:00 - [167]
 

Edited by: Cresalle on 27/05/2010 08:49:33
I like the insurance changes. I like that you finally fixed the LP store window. I like the new Scorpion model. I like that some things seem to run slightly smoother.

I dislike... No... I'm f***ing ****ed about what you've done to my contacts. Doubly (possibly triply) so about the fact that you made the default setting on EVE-Gate to allow other players to view my contacts list.

Also, FYI: the first time I accidentally click the 'Planetary View' button on the 'selected item' window during combat, I'm going to come to Iceland and scream T3 obscenities at your building. That kind of thing belongs in the r-click menu only, or else you could integrate it to the scanning window.

Symtest
Posted - 2010.05.27 08:34:00 - [168]
 

This is really minor but anyway..

The Caldari logo on the scorpion has visible gray pixels around it. This might be because you decided to change the scorpion`s color to black. Anyway would be nice to see it fixed.

Also this is just a personal opinion but the new model looks a bit too much like a toy rather than a space ship .

Khaymann Draven
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.27 08:40:00 - [169]
 

Edited by: Khaymann Draven on 27/05/2010 08:45:52
so far not what i was hoping for but its not all bad and its not all the way out yet but time will tell just how good or bad it is...
thanks for fixing jukebox now we can actually hear some of the songs without having to mess with it all the time
does anyone no anything about planet respawn time or if there is a respawn cuz if not then hole expansion is epic fail considering most planets can be completely striped in a matter of hours

Allan Sheperd
Posted - 2010.05.27 08:41:00 - [170]
 

I wondered where the hell CCP got the idea to force camera smoothing. I searched the forums and site for camera smoothing, only one relevant result came up.

"some other features that moviemakers would probably like to see are: Mouse smoothing"

One post. About making movies with EVE, requesting camera smoothing.

I'm not making a movie. I'm trying to hunt people down with the directional scanner, making scans on belts and planets while in warp. The camera smoothing makes it almost impossible to be extremely accurate with the scans in short amounts of time. Why was this added, and is it possible to disable it? If you have something that works, and nobody complains, why did it need to change? Why, with all the known problems in EVE was it such a priority to make my camera smoothed?

Is anyone else noticing this, or annoyed by it?

Also, why can't I relocate the window for the planetary interaction? Why is there no minimize option for it?

ZaBob
Twilight Labs
Unsung Voices
Posted - 2010.05.27 08:45:00 - [171]
 

To counter all the whining, I'll say that I am pretty happy with the release.

It may be premature, but it seems to me that the performance of both client and the servers is much improved, and that's a very welcome change.

I look forward to the planetary interaction stuff.

I even somewhat like Spacebook, and I don't have a problem with the default privacy settings (though you shouldn't be surprised that some do).

But this Contacts change was a Really Bad Idea.

carebear one
Posted - 2010.05.27 08:49:00 - [172]
 

Hi guys,

thanks for nothing. Beside the fact that I am paying for this updates with my subscription fee it is really anoying to wait for an update that containst substantialy nothing.

I think it would have been more honest from you guys when you said to us "Sorry folks whe did it again. We engineered PI into EVE but it is not running. Give us some more time to figure out how to fix it" ... Everybody would have understand that. But delivering a Patch with "stunning new features" wich the main content is disabled till some day in the (far far away) future is not a good manner to handle customers

Khaymann Draven
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.27 08:56:00 - [173]
 

i have to admit i kinda like the new contacts just need to add some folders... and ccp u really should start listening to ur players more i dont wanna sound whinny but there r a lot of issues that ppl have petitioned that u have blatantly ignored

Voggles
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:01:00 - [174]
 

Dear CCP,

I was looking forward to the new Tyrannis update. Untill I saw that Agents were to give out missions to quieter systems..
I really don't like flying 5 jumps to kill some NPC's, 5 back to my HQ, switching to a Salvager and making the trip again..

Can't you first test if this works with tradehubs (so no missions in trade hubs anymore). If that balances things (and the server) enough, please reverse this patch.. I specifically choose *this* Agent because of the good missions, high Quality and nearby missions.

Thanks in advance,
Voggles

Eelis Kiy
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:08:00 - [175]
 

Dullest expansion ever. How is Eve gate "expansion" content? Did you take your privacy advice directly from Facebook? Are there not other things that should have taken priority over this?

The PI deployment seems a bit of a joke, still at least can get rid of all those POS mods now...

The only thing remotely interesting is the in game calender.

PS you broke our corp logo.

Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:08:00 - [176]
 

Originally by: YoNightmare


But look at the bright side, you'll have all that time to train the 2 skills to max.Very Happy And I saved a couple of bill back just for this.




You do realize that there are 5 skills, right?

lightbeing
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:13:00 - [177]
 

Originally by: Isaph
Remote Sensing states that level 1 allows scan within 1 light year of your position....

Since a light year is 60000+ AU, what's the point of training this skill more than once?

Shouldn't this be working on a AU basis since you can't scan planets outside of your solar system here anyway?


Very Happy you are able to scan planets outside your solar system by ussing the map browser or even the planets from within your stations you are located in, for the Planetary skill you need Remote Sensing lvl 3 Wink Fly Save

Nina Treml
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:23:00 - [178]
 

Edited by: Nina Treml on 27/05/2010 09:24:01
Originally by: Kern Hotha
About all I can say about this expansion: thanks for nothing.

this!

and btw: new logos = ****

Falkrich Swifthand
Caldari
eNinjas Incorporated
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:54:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: Drekna Masto
Originally by: Your Client
Please put "sunday" to the furthest left of my calendar or atleast give me the option to swithc between calendar types. I cannot get used to sunday being on the furthest right! Shocked

I fully agree with this request. It's very odd looking at the calendar and having everything be one day offset (because here, Sunday is always on the left side).

On a plus, love the new cursors.


Why is Sunday on the left? It's the last day of the week!

Celebris Nexterra
Gallente
Jupiter Force
Posted - 2010.05.27 10:01:00 - [180]
 

Edited by: Celebris Nexterra on 27/05/2010 10:02:26
I really am mostly satisfied with the game, but this little stuff has GOT to go. You get an hour of downtime EVERY day. How many days since dominion? It's more than 120 for sure. 120 hours of downtime!!!! That's when all these stupid typos and random stuff should be fixed!!

Also, the main site said the downtime was going to be more than scheduled. Fine. I was expecting that anyway. But to then say you'd have an update at 1800 and then never say anything?? I just randomly was able to access the server at about 2100. WTF? I did notice in the Scope news later that it was listed as an update at 2000. But still. There never was an update on the deployment, and most people are probably going to check the main site anyway. And i have things to do!! I can't sit around staring at the login screen all day, waiting for it to come back up so i can take the 5 minutes to buy the skills and put them in queue...

I have read EVERY SINGLE reply in this thread. Yes, EVERY single one. And the main consensus seems to be that EVE gate was mostly unneeded (i actually like not being able to adjust skills outside of my own comp- it makes the long skills seem a bit shorter Neutral), the new contacts list is AWFUL (that is my main point), and the Scorpion is BEAUTIFUL Very Happy!!!

Oh, and apparently POS's are sentient beings Surprised!!!


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