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Sub Nor'Mal
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:26:00 - [361]
 

To all whiners,

Please ragequit but first, send me all your stuff.
I am a n00b and need it.
Very Happy

Sung mai
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:26:00 - [362]
 

Originally by: Captain Eflame
Real Life is currently On-Line due to Eve Issues
Please check Local Library for more information



HAHAHA!

MongGrel
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:26:00 - [363]
 

Originally by: Guillome Renard
Originally by: Mortuus VirOrtus
This actually appears to be more of a wetware issue on behalf of those who are currently complaining about slight mishaps. They should resolve the problem that exists between the keyboard and chair before complaining about a EVE or how CCP is handling things. Take a chill pill and relax.


Preach it!

The thing is, the insta-smack that's gaining velocity on this thread fits a particular pattern: addicted junkies suffering from withdrawl.

The flamers need to get a life here. Some of us are trying to follow this thread for updates from the Devs about how the problem is being resolved and the amount of flame we have to sift through is getting pretty ridiculous.

hehe your gonna hang out here looking for information from devs ? thats good it'll just come up again probably :)

But then, this is as much a waste of my keyboard's useful service life as your flames are...Rolling Eyes

Cerebric
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:26:00 - [364]
 

wwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

WolfSchwarzMond
Gallente
Martyr's Vengence
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [365]
 

sigh.......

WTF...OMFG...DUDE....MAN...WHEN?...WHY?...HOW MUCH LONGER....

There now no one else needs to post
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Graic
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [366]
 

Originally by: Javajunky
Originally by: Consortium Agent
Hey CCP!

Ok, so I've asked this before and feel it necessary to ask this again... what part of 'failover' causes the Eve server to die? I'm serious. A failover is a smooth transition from one [clustered] SQL server to another - it's supposed to be seamless - it's supposed to prevent downtime - so why does CCP continue to express that a 'failover' is the cause for the problems with Eve's database? Please stop calling it a 'failover' and call it what it is: a 'fail'. Failover's keep servers running, not cause outages - see... there is a difference.

I've offered you guys my 16+ years of IT experience numerous times and offered to help move you away from the dreaded M$SQL to a more reliable, stable Oracle environment... and still nobody beating down my inbox to get me! What gives? roflmao. Not much more I can do but keep offering I suppose - so, CCP want me to come play fix fix with their database yet? :)

Aside from the database issues and the performance issues, and the endless bugs and glitches in the UI, and the severe fleet lag, and a host of exploits, and... well, aside from all of that... I enjoy Eve and am glad you guys are working hard on it. I wish you'd focus a little more on resolving issues like this - especially given the frequency with which they seem to occur (and they're causing data loss too lately! bah!)

Some of us *are* actually looking forward to Tyrannis and the new industrial aspects - long overdue by most carebear standards. Unfortunate that the PvPers only get a facelift on the Scorpion lol - but after dozens of PvP-centric patches, they can bite our carebear butts :P


2 Problems - Orcale is too expensive overall and it's too costly to change the database. I work with a company that processes several billion $$ in micro-ticket (less than $100) in transactions annually using a SQL database backbone. It's not a MSSQL problem.
I had a chuckle at that first comment.

Consortium Agent might have used Oracle, and those shiny new Oracle appliances are kind of kickass, but I'll bet he's never had to pay for Oracle. ;)

Database holy wars are banal. There are pros/cons for most leading vendors. If I had to put a totally uninformed opinion hat on I'd say the issue lays more with the framework built around a very non-boiler plate data model, as oppsed to other enterprise models you can sign up for.


Fincosta
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [367]
 

Originally by: Major Noobalot
Right. Get off the SQLServer/Windows platform and on to AIX/Linux. Much more stable.


maybe they are upgrading from dos to windows now Wink

DizzyO2
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [368]
 

hopefully with the extra hour and a half downtime that should be shaved off tomorrows update

UGERNAUGHT
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [369]
 

Originally by: guska Cryotank
Originally by: Graic
It's after 11PM here and freezing cold. I'm not going outside!


+1

I'm going to run out of smokes and catch a cold if this keeps up!

In a serious note, there hasn't been a real major issue for a while (aside from that items crash the other day), so whatever they are doing, it's been working to a degree. If you are joking around and killing time, then ignore me, if not, read on.

Sure, you pay to play the game, you also pay to have electricity and water to your house. Occasionally you get a notification that the power or water or gas or whatever will be off for a certain amount of time (Downtime if you will), do you get all uppity if the outage lasts a bit longer? Do you get a phone call to say "sorry, you can't have water because Bill pee'd in the pipes"? No, you get diddly squat. And when the power goes out in summer due to excess load, do you get some guy around to your house to say "hey, sorry guys, the substation got a bit overloaded and tripped the safety, we'll have it fixed shortly"? Like hell you do!

What gives you the right to hold CCP, a company that supplies a game, which is, after all, a LUXURY item, more accountable than the guys supplying the power to run your fridge, PC etc?

Seriously, all those having a genuine whinge, step off, go play Solitaire.


They provide a service we pay for, so yeah, we have the right to complain when the service sucks. And when the gas or electric company disrupts my power, I complain to them too, cause I pay for their services.

Giorgos Rbs
Amarr
Surfers of the Apocalypse
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [370]
 

Originally by: killerkeano
Edited by: killerkeano on 25/05/2010 12:47:47
You guys really take the joke sometimes. this isn't really a suprise. and it will only get worse.

A 5 year old child would be able to tell that the current server is poor in terms of performance, last night for example the entire region of detorid was unplayable in. for no reason whatsoever. Fleet fights are impossible due to lag, there a still mny bugs in the game.

yet here you are adding planets and more strain on the already struggling server. I know you have a graphics team with salaries and noting to do, sack them, get more engineers to fix the damn thing you have now first.

As for dust, again more aditions to the game it doesn't need, if we wanted to play a fps game we'd go play COD or halo. which will dominate this market and DUST will be a flop. stop being greedy CCP think about current players instead of trying more and more ways to bring in new players. you send me 4 emails every month asking why 4 of my accounts have not been renewed, and all these offers. They will stay cancelled until you provide a stable and playable server for large alliances living in 0.0.

no one i know in the game gives a toss about planets and are only concerned with having a better performing server. Listen to your players for once instead of the guy in accounts going, well we got all these graphics designers and we need more subsciptions.

do us all a favour delay this crap expansion and fix the terrible laggy performance of the current server before ADDING MORE STRAIN ON AN ALREADY STRUGGLING SERVER


This post expresses my thoughts as well

StaticEcho
Gallente
Point of No Return
Waterboard
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [371]
 

com on CCP sort it out... Rolling Eyes

guska Cryotank
Gallente
Void Angels
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [372]
 

Originally by: Cheyennes
Database issues. What exactly is "Database Issues"? Are the database issues a result of the lack of known fixes that have been prevalent for....... 2 years and never fixed? I know, we'll layer our database! That's it! Put all the known problems on one layer and we won't have to fix them! YES! Wait a minute, what do you mean we have a relational database? You mean there are hooks to the bad data? Oh Crap! Let's have a meeting! Ok, we'll tell them we are having database issues. Resolution at last!


I'm going to smile and nod and pretend I know WTF you're on about...

Chron Aldazaar
Gallente
Royal Enterprise
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [373]
 

Originally by: Sweatsock
Originally by: UGERNAUGHT
CCP reminds me a lot of Sony Online with Star Wars Galaxies.

How about the admin listen to your paying customers, fix the bugs we have now and worry about expansions after.


How did that game work out for SOE?


After several Years, SOE finally made the Jewelery sets from instances tradeable, Jedi's are noob buttons, commando's are noob buttons, Bounty Hunters suck and Princess Leia looks like Julie Andrews in her mid 60's.

gilesy123
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [374]
 

this is only time i will get to pay today and the thing is down. its happened a lot past couple of weeks server being down. +1 for every 1 that adds to post gets 30 free days lol XD

superteds
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:27:00 - [375]
 

bacon.

Frenkii
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [376]
 

Come on, MSSQL for database. Using Microsoft for databases spells trouble on this scale, try something different :D

There are many different RDBMS engines out there, some are better suited for some tasks then other, and some of those companies have more experience in making RDBMS engines which can handle this kind of traffic and requests volume.

Luwc
Caldari
Easy Co.
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [377]
 

Shocked

Elodie Guerrier
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [378]
 

Originally by: Cassandra Invicta
I think we can clearly state that noone reads or visits this topic.

Absolutely. I for one have neither read nor posted in this thread.

Josephina Marco
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [379]
 

Edited by: Josephina Marco on 25/05/2010 13:37:21
Originally by: Georgiy Giggle
Originally by: Nekraz

Are you like..... new to this game?


No, noob. I'm not. 3 years of playing.
If you have more breaks of eve, maybe problem is your sily internet or sily computer???
Check before tell something!

1. Today
2. 16 May: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1319401/page/1
3. 07 May: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1314212/page/1

So 3 breaks in one month. So you must be very new. Like a week old at a maximum of 1 month if you claim that is breaks only 2-3 time a year

OpaqueGhost
Solar Nexus.
OWN Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [380]
 

Originally by: Balevian
Why not have someone send you the update on a DVD?




Yes i guess i could do that.. Now i just have to be able to catch one of them online sometime to be able to give them the info needed to do so.. But yea.. i think ccp should send out a copy of the updates before the patches are launched.. that may take some problems away.

JediRobin
Globaltech Industries
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [381]
 

Maybe we should petition CCP for lost playtime.
Let me see 1 hour per day over a year.
That's 14days we at least loose per year.

Scotian
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [382]
 

Tyrannis: One patch to rule them all, one patch to find them, one patch to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them!

:)

010101010101
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [383]
 

well all the people moaing about the game and its down times and all that jazz .... smiple answer WoW`s that way >>>>>>>>
dont let the door hit ya where there good lord split ya !

ps. can i haz your stuffQuestion

MarkEchoOne
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [384]
 

pleast no make fun of russian

CF ProctoR
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:28:00 - [385]
 

Shocked

Morpheus Adenine
Caldari
Cube Zombie Consortium
House of Gaming
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:29:00 - [386]
 

Originally by: Enormus1
I like the Idea of a 30 day plex given to all that have bothered to add to this thread


I like the idea of PLEX given to all people who have not bothered to whinge in this thread, funded by said whingers.

TaTiK
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:29:00 - [387]
 

Rolling Eyeshttp://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/Rolling Eyes

already everything get read again through
ugh

Prince Spiderman
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:29:00 - [388]
 

I vote for cleaning up this thread.
All this **** makes no sense ... and eventually will lag the server :-P

Swirler
Nex Exercitus
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:29:00 - [389]
 

Originally by: Starlighart

How much pink ink would a pink mink drink,
If a pink Mink could drink Pink Ink?
A pink mink would drink all the Pink Ink
A pink mink could drink if a pink mink could drink pink ink.



Thanks Man, Priceless!

Najerius
Clockwork Dawn
Posted - 2010.05.25 13:29:00 - [390]
 

It's been like this since the beginning. More stuff gets added, less lag/database issues/broken game mechanics get fixed.
Right before every patch there's a tsunami of forumposts begging to fix the existing problems instead of adding more features and stuff :)
The unexpected downtime atm is just channeling this phenomenon somewhat hehe.

Oh yea and Dust will be a Bust.


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