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Cash Collection
Posted - 2010.05.23 20:28:00 - [31]
 

if its done right all recruitment will be done from there and that is where you will show off your video's, battle reports and killboards.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.05.23 21:01:00 - [32]
 

Yes, I fully intend to use it.

-Liang

Kyra Felann
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.05.23 21:38:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Kyra Felann on 23/05/2010 21:42:37
Let's see...it lets me check mail and the new calendar out of game? Yes, I'll use it.

I can't imagine anyone not using it, honestly, unless they spend all day logged into the EVE client itself or they're a card-carrying member of the tin-foil hat brigade (like several in this thread, it seems).

Stormmaster Neptunius
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.23 21:56:00 - [34]
 

I don't even use the in-game browser, I find it too slow and unsecure.

And the "social network" part of it... Recently I have been getting Social Adaptation implants for storylines too often, about 2 of them per every non-charisma implant. Now I understand the hint Very Happy But no, I am not going to participate in any social network.

They are going to make limited access first, "open up a bit, then a bit more". I wonder, why not just let those people who don't want this at all simply sign up for something like "automatic most restricted profile, everything disabled" so that they wouldn't have to log into this ****? The load would be decreased significantly.

Ella C'Tronix
Posted - 2010.05.23 22:11:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: hired goon
Is anyone excited about this new feature? It seems pretty cool to me, but I can only see it being used by people at work (who can't run/install eve on their work machine) and people on the move (who can't run eve on their netbook/smartphone).

Also, I've always been kinda embarrassed by the idea of Eve-gate being a 'social network' - because Eve is 95% male, so even logging on would make me feel like a complete loser. Well, more of a loser.

What about everyone else? Are you going to use Eve-gate?


I can see zero downsides to not having to wait 10 minutes for the slow ass client to login just to check your evemail.

Asruv'ynn
GeoCorp.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.23 22:16:00 - [36]
 

Yes. It'll also keep me from having to log into the game and I can manage little things like mail quicker. Will I be on it to the extent of like some social networking site? No.. It has a simple use and it will make things easier for me when I'm having a busy day and don't have time to step in.

Stormmaster Neptunius
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.23 22:45:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Ella C'Tronix

I can see zero downsides to not having to wait 10 minutes for the slow ass client to login just to check your evemail.


Are you serious about 10 minutes? Takes about 4 seconds to launch the client, about 5 seconds to login (this doesn't count time for entering the password), then 4 seconds to enter the game with a selected character. So it takes me less than 30 seconds (even with my monstrous password) to get from desktop into the game. I realize that Evegate might be useful for some people, particularly if they need to check eve-mail often, but 10 minutes for login is incredible.

motomysz
Nexus Advanced Technologies
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2010.05.23 22:51:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: motomysz on 23/05/2010 22:51:40
Originally by: Neo Gabriel

It turns out that they made your contact list, which includes all the characters on your address book and all the entities in game that you have set standings to, available to anyone you have +10 with!



Does this include corp and alliance standings? If so, then I'm not in control of who sees my information and I think that's bollocks.

Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
Not Found.
Posted - 2010.05.23 22:59:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Sky Marshal on 24/05/2010 00:43:05
Originally by: Kyra Felann

Let's see...it lets me check mail and the new calendar out of game? Yes, I'll use it.

I can't imagine anyone not using it, honestly, unless they spend all day logged into the EVE client itself or they're a card-carrying member of the tin-foil hat brigade (like several in this thread, it seems).


Not everyone use IG Mails. Forums are often more practical to give informations. It is the case in my corporation, and this is a good thing as I hate using Mails. For the calendar, a good alliance already have this kind of tools.

So at the moment, EVE-Gate is not interresting (in my view of course), but it is already a security leak. I made some posts to corpmates to explain and take action against it, and also demotivate them to use Spacebook.

CCP don't want to tell us what new features can be expected in the future, so for the moment it is "Implement now, develop later". A body who have no really useful organs, but CCP want us to use it anyway.

So about the question of the OP, as a player already said, it is : I'll use it once, to turn it off.

Rolare
Amarr
Posted - 2010.05.23 23:05:00 - [40]
 

EVE-Gate is the only way I can contact people in-game directly... :(

Anyways, I like it well enough so ya :)

Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
Posted - 2010.05.23 23:14:00 - [41]
 

Anyone know how to test the sisi eve gate, I forgot :(

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.05.24 01:34:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Sky Marshal

Not everyone use IG Mails. Forums are often more practical to give informations. It is the case in my corporation, and this is a good thing as I hate using Mails. For the calendar, a good alliance already have this kind of tools.



Hey cool didn't know that random people evemailing me went to our forums! The ability to manage evemail without logging in is a big deal to me.

Quote:

So at the moment, EVE-Gate is not interresting (in my view of course), but it is already a security leak. I made some posts to corpmates to explain and take action against it, and also demotivate them to use Spacebook.



Sad, really. They have addressed what is IMO they biggest privacy concerns.

-Liang

Ruby Khann
Posted - 2010.05.24 03:29:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Sad, really. They have addressed what is IMO they biggest privacy concerns.


If they haven't changed it from opt-out to opt-in, then they haven't addressed the biggest privacy concern.

Zex Maxwell
Caldari
Posted - 2010.05.24 03:39:00 - [44]
 

Maybe. I'll have to see if it will be useful to me.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.05.24 04:31:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Ruby Khann
If they haven't changed it from opt-out to opt-in, then they haven't addressed the biggest privacy concern.


You have a powerful new tool at your disposal. You can either stick your head in the sand and whine like a little ***** or you can move a couple sliders around to +5 and take advantage of it. Rolling Eyes

-Liang

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2010.05.24 05:15:00 - [46]
 

its probably a good thing i have most everyone on my list set to -10, and basically nobody set to better than +5.

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.05.24 05:53:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Ruby Khann
If they haven't changed it from opt-out to opt-in, then they haven't addressed the biggest privacy concern.


You have a powerful new tool at your disposal. You can either stick your head in the sand and whine like a little ***** or you can move a couple sliders around to +5 and take advantage of it. Rolling Eyes

-Liang


Take advantage of what exactly? the only semi useful thing to me is the ability to read EVE mail without having to login for everything else any self respecting corp or alliance have a well setup and managed forum.

EveMart Representative
EveMart Corporation
Posted - 2010.05.24 06:10:00 - [48]
 

To be honest, I don't know why people are setting other people to +10 when they don't trust them to see their contacts list.

Makes no sense to me!

Stormmaster Neptunius
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.24 07:11:00 - [49]
 

As for me, I don't actually care if those set to +10 watch my contact list (btw, is it about +10 or any Superb standing which is 9.5+?). As long as it is read only, it is ok. I like the role playing aspect and set various standings, they are not just "-10/red/orange/blue/dark-blue/+10" for me. And only several people are set to Superb.

I worry more about actual security. You see, an extra way to login and influence the in-game stuff (like skill training) can't actually improve security - the best result will be the same level, even if Evegate itself happens to be more secure. So I'd like to be as isolated from this new feature as possible.

Nash Panthera
Gallente
I'm Charging My Lazor
Posted - 2010.05.24 07:13:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: EveMart Representative
To be honest, I don't know why people are setting other people to +10 when they don't trust them to see their contacts list.

Makes no sense to me!



well its nice to see that some one understands the standings systems and actually knows what it means... herehere I say.

Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.05.24 07:38:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Neo Gabriel


It turns out that they made your contact list, which includes all the characters on your address book and all the entities in game that you have set standings to, available to anyone you have +10 with!



Wait, seriously? That is. . .crazy. Well, I was planning to use it to check corp mails here and there. Now, I'm thinking I may go onto the "set everything private and turn it off" plan.

Do the people who make decisions at CCP actually play this game?


No, it is apparent that they don't. Or if they do, they have lost all contact with reality.

Feilamya
Pain Elemental
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:04:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: EveMart Representative
To be honest, I don't know why people are setting other people to +10 when they don't trust them to see their contacts list.

Makes no sense to me!


It's because until recently, standing has only been a color-coded number, and everyone was free to define by himself what it means exactly (like a tool in a sandbox. I wonder if anyone at CCP knows what that means...). There was no need to trust anyone when setting standings. Personally, I used +10 only for my alts, but for someone who distinguished only between friend and enemy with no levels in between, it made perfectly sense to set all his friends to +10.

A forced social network has no place in a game where most people shoot first, ask questions later, and then shoot again. In this game, every other player is a potential enemy and should be treated as such by default.

Unfortunately, due to CCP's ignorance about their own game, there is nothing we can do right now. To those who are worried, I recommend deleting all your standings and contact list until this idiocy has gone live and is well enough understood, so we know how to protect ourselves. Then I give it a few weeks of abuse until CCP realize the need to make it opt-in with the next patch or hotfix.

arjun
Viziam
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:13:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: arjun on 24/05/2010 08:16:27
not many want it but we get it stuffed down out thoats. somebody in ccp had the brilliant idea and we have to eat **** for it.
might be ok in a normal social network but not within context of eve where real hate is playing a part.

q1: do i have to disable the settings on every single char i have?
q2: are members of my corp automatically + 10 and so able to see my contact list?

Othran
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:18:00 - [54]
 

I'll be turning it all off on launch day too and ignoring it thereafter.

Auto opt-in shows a total disregard for your customers.

Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:26:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: CCP Rhayger
Regarding EVE Gate being opt-in versus opt-out I am afraid that will not be the case. This is a conscious decision on our behalf for a number of key reasons.

...none of which will prevent me from not using it anyway.

/Ben

SirRalph
Minmatar
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:31:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: SirRalph on 24/05/2010 08:32:46
Basically everyone will use it.

EDIT: And you are not that important that everyone would like to see your contacts or standings. Basically nobody cares, maybe some metagamers do.

arjun
Viziam
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:36:00 - [57]
 

sir ralph gratulation for ignorance. a database that combines the emploiment history of every char in the game will reveal so much. dozens of people will start creating such databases from minute one.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:42:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 24/05/2010 08:51:31
I am not a lawyer but... isn't opt out illegal in Europe?

One of the few things that help keep my sanity is that we are not force-opt-abused like Americans are.


Edit:

http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp


The law applies to email, but I am quite sure that revealing information leading to unsolicited third parties to a loss of virtual assets is as damaging as having a loss due to email.
Heh I might ask my cousin (lawyer Twisted Evil) if something can be done.

SirRalph
Minmatar
U.K.R.A.I.N.E
SOLAR FLEET
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:47:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: arjun
sir ralph gratulation for ignorance. a database that combines the emploiment history of every char in the game will reveal so much. dozens of people will start creating such databases from minute one.
It's already PUBLIC information in TQ...............................................................................................................................

arjun
Viziam
Posted - 2010.05.24 08:48:00 - [60]
 

ots not in a database u fool.


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