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Kushmir
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.05.19 10:25:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: General Windypops
Quelle surprise. Bobby gets booted out of a leadership for being an arse, throws a tantrum, and Atlas is once again the first alliance to fold. Pro, Bobby, pro.





You should reset Atlas.

Laughing

clagnuts
Minmatar
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.19 10:41:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Ace Frehley
what war? Shocked

I was drinking beer and listen to Dio for the last month....

im with this guy , rainbow and dio rock legends Wink

Bernadictus
Caldari
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.19 10:41:00 - [33]
 

Why are Privateers posting fail about .0 warfare? You hardly ever leave Jita. No go and have fun neutral repping your dock fleets. And keeps spamming dock once we jump in!

Ocih
Amarr
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2010.05.19 10:44:00 - [34]
 

IT uses Atlas to fighting thier battles,
Ushra'Khan uses -A- to fighting their battles,
IT uses -A- to fighting thier battles,
-A- used thier Super caps to kill George of the jungle,
Atlas ganked Barby and Ken in dead end low sec

SC needs a new motto.

Используйте меня

SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Aperture Science inc.
Posted - 2010.05.19 10:46:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Snot Shot
Originally by: Imigo Montoya
Originally by: Snot Shot
WTF Atlas was doing the whole time no ones knows

I don't know where you were during this war (dare I guess Jita?), but what I saw in and around Tribute was mainly Atlas pilots.

And as for IT burning out fighting for a month, I seem to recall the IT pep rally speech saying to expect this to go on for 6 months to a year. I'd like to know what IT have to say about your analysis that they were burned out in 1/6th to 1/12th of the time they were supposed to be prepared for.
Seems like you just logged in after being in a coma for a couple months hu? Atlas half assed it in Tribute for a week after getting lag-banged, went back home to wait for Bobby to show up, came back 3 weeks later when -A- was done getting thier breath back from the Providence fights, lasted 1 fight and ran back home.....wtf...YARRRR!!

The speach about 6 months assumed the 5 Teams would be up there for 6 months not 1 slugging it out with the rest stragle in after a month or so.....Rolling Eyes

Honestly I think the attention span of most EVE players to commit to a 6 month push is a crack pipe dream but at the same time I don't think Molle gave a **** about how long it would take. He probably figured; "If I say 2 months and we are up there 2 months and a day we will just read "FAIL" on the forums non-stop........If I say 6 months it's a safe bet the thing won't last close to that time frame win or loose so wtf......6 months it is.."

Love them or hate them IT stir **** up, take big risks (smart or dumb), and are willing to travel to get the fights for their allies and Corps. As for the NC and the **** you all talk, you have done nothing of note in EVE other than defend your space which is the easiest thing to do in this game...Rolling Eyes

As for the guy being obsessed with killing NC..Rolling Eyes...I think he could not care any less, its a game, you gotta have an enemy to keep people interested and logging in wtf.....personal grudge, obsessed, anyone that belives that has been looking at the inside of their ass to long and the fumes are starting to cause damage....Neutral

Bring on the next spin cycle!!!


Ok... sure.

You won't like it though, and probably think it's lame..

Ok, here goes:

So defending space is "the easiest thing to do in this game" ?
It seems your super leet 'stirrrrr it up' idols BoB, uh, I mean IT, failed pretty hard at that not too long ago.

(pre-emptive spinstrike: Metagaming is part of this game, so them losing all sov and the advantages that come with it due to the alliance disbanding is a valid move and is no excuse for their failure to defend. In case you do find it a good excuse, but accept it is part of this game, you have to admit that defending apparently ISN'T the easiet thing to do in this game, thus making your original statement against that 'NC boy' void.)

Have a pleasant stay in Jita.

Valerianne
Caldari
NoobFleet
Posted - 2010.05.19 11:37:00 - [36]
 

War against NC means lag and server crashes, nodes simply can't hold battles at this level. H-W was the peak of SC's numbers against NC, so Bobby may think that, if that expedition was a failure, how they gonna pull it off with less tities and moms and also a low morale.

Still the question of throwing blames around and pulling out when you're a key member of SC... imagine razor pulling out of the war and blaming morsus mihi that their tactix suck.
I still think ATLAS didn't pull out and this is a troll joke or some tactic... something, it doesn't make any sense to me.

Roark Garnet
Minmatar
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.19 11:54:00 - [37]
 

Quote:
In this moment, ATLAS is considered defeated by the NC being unable to wage war due to isk lost, morale shattered and propaganda, this is how history will see it anyway.


Doubt it. I think most consider it was the most reasonable course of action and far less deluded decision making than the other KSC alliances.
But hey, that's just me.

Ste Weiss
Gallente
modro
Strategic Operations Brigade
Posted - 2010.05.19 12:12:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Snot Shot

Its subtle, and probably missed by most, but the sysops push is on with each post:

"Atlas was used by IT and treated badly"...Crying or Very sad
"The NC will support Atlas when they go to war against IT"...Wink
"Bobby had the guts to stand up to Molle"..Shocked
"Props to Bobby for being honest"...Cool
"IT is the reason the war failed and Molle is to blame!!"...Wink
"Molle threatened Atlas and -A- so we should all help them destroy IT!!"...Confused
"Atlas is our new BFF and we should defend their honour!!"...Rolling Eyes

And on and on it goes trying to plant the seed of deceit in the SC Alliances heads......pretty weak NC, pretty weak...Rolling Eyes



Or people realise no matter what alliance/coalition there in that EVE is just a game...and are being sympathetic?

Who knows next time will be much more fun without the epic lag, hopefully when/if the servers get fixed

ste

Heptameron
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.19 12:26:00 - [39]
 

wow, just wow.... snot is either an IT alt or a high networth earner as a molle rentboy... well that or so high on the best s**t money can buy he's actually in some alternate version of Eve none of us have seen.

Yes the NC can field mad numbers, but we have been pushed that way continuosly by other entities coming north and fielding mad numbers. Remember max 1, 450 caps and 700+ support? When this campaign was announced we saw the numbers being fielded against us and thought holy pooper scooper this should be fun/laggy.

Atlas have been consistenly a pain in the rear up north and were unfortunate in many ways. The main ones being not in control of their own tactics and the obvious lag montser that was inevitable given the numbers being put in one system. Taking these into account I would think they have made the smart move. Personally I hoppe the SC stick around for a while longer, road trips are a pain in the a** and fighting within a couple of jumps of my own hangar is awesome.

And snotnose, por favor amigo.... look at your own 'accomplishments' before you start pi**ing on anyone else. If not at least look into the history of the guys you are trying desperately to poop on or are you blinded by someones nuts in your eyes while deepthroating?

Arrador
Caldari
54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry
Posted - 2010.05.19 12:36:00 - [40]
 

Being troll feeding ITT.

Originally by: Snot Shot

The war was lost when the "5 Teams" did not show up together plain and simple. IT was burned out fighting all of the NC for
a month while -A- was burned out taking Providence down. WTF Atlas was doing the whole time no ones knows but I guess its
true that once one thing goes wrong Bobby blames everyone else and runs back home with his toys....Neutral



Eh, Atlas was going according to IT's great Multi-front war plan and hiting vale. I'd like to think they underestimated ME/Rage and we were able to stonewall them. Regardless of spin, We held the field. Troll -A- for showing up late to the party.


Originally by: Snot Snot

Let's be honest here, the game is f'd and at this point the only style of fighting that it supports is the **** that PL does.
Small groups of about 100 picking fights with weaker groups, hot dropping, or blowing stuff up when no one is around. If the
SC wanted some good PvP balance they would:



Are any of you guys aware of what ME/Rage were doing vs PL before this whole Node crashing war begain? Yea, getting our Asses handed to us, then you guys had to go crash the ~good fites~ we were having. Thanks alot guys.

Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.19 13:45:00 - [41]
 

LMAO I thought atleast some of these coward forum whoring alts were atlas but turns out they were pretty much all IT.

Snot Shot
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.05.19 14:39:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Fred0
Spin....spin.........spin.....Rolling Eyes

Seems I hit a nerve derailing your spin efforts...Wink

Misaki Tanaka
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.05.19 14:47:00 - [43]
 

Quote:
[10:44:31] <Misaki Tanaka [B0RT]> There should be a NC/SC friendship OP wardeccing PA and just kick the **** out of them for like 2 weeks
[10:44:40] <Darkos Nightmare [BORT]> that would be sweet
[10:44:41] <Misaki Tanaka [B0RT]> Wardeccing any corps that fall off too
[10:44:53] <Branorr [B0RT]> haha, yeah, that would be great


SO HOW ABOUT IT NC AND SC?

SOMETHING TO GET OUR MIND OFF OF THE STUPID INVASION/CRUSADE?

Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.05.19 16:21:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Orree on 19/05/2010 16:21:08
Originally by: Snot Shot
Originally by: Fred0
Spin....spin.........spin.....Rolling Eyes

Seems I hit a nerve derailing your spin efforts...Wink



Talks a lot of crap...gets called on it...utters "Ah, seems I hit a nerve!"


The cycle is complete. You may begin again.



Julia Ginzinger
Caldari
Tax Free Corporation
Posted - 2010.05.19 16:27:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Snot Shot
Originally by: Fred0
Spin....spin.........spin.....Rolling Eyes

Seems I hit a nerve derailing your spin efforts...Wink


u must be really mad, here have a cookie Cool

dastommy79
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
Posted - 2010.05.19 18:09:00 - [46]
 

Opened thread expecting meatspin.

Left disapointed SadSad



Forlani Tristania
Gallente
Feral Tendency
Posted - 2010.05.19 18:12:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Forlani Tristania on 19/05/2010 18:13:21
Let me check on things here:
1) Snot Shot posting............check
2) General Windypops posting....check
3) Butter Dog posting...........absent

Paging Butter Dog, paging Mr. Butter Dog. Without at Butter Dog posting, this thread remains incomplete.

Halbrogen
Amarr
Nova Security Systems
Posted - 2010.05.22 03:01:00 - [48]
 

this thread has too much spin cycle, needs more Airfluff to get rid of wrinkles

TK420
Caldari
Navy of Xoc
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2010.05.22 03:10:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Misaki Tanaka
Quote:
[10:44:31] <Misaki Tanaka [B0RT]> There should be a NC/SC friendship OP wardeccing PA and just kick the **** out of them for like 2 weeks
[10:44:40] <Darkos Nightmare [BORT]> that would be sweet
[10:44:41] <Misaki Tanaka [B0RT]> Wardeccing any corps that fall off too
[10:44:53] <Branorr [B0RT]> haha, yeah, that would be great


SO HOW ABOUT IT NC AND SC?

SOMETHING TO GET OUR MIND OFF OF THE STUPID INVASION/CRUSADE?


Two Weeks? Know what those two weeks would be like?

Day 1:
"...so we're going to have to wait for the hostiles to undock."

Day 14: "Sir they haven't undocked."

Welcome to fighting Privateers.

Jones Bones
Minmatar
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.05.22 03:29:00 - [50]
 

Internet spaceships are serious business.

Kastera
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.05.22 15:09:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Snot Shot

As you all know I get a pretty good chuckle reading all the spin that each of you try and put on these wars, how they were
won/lost, and what the fall out will be. Its actually pretty interesting to see how hard the NC and PL work the forum spin
attempting with each post to drive a wedge between the SC Alliances....
Its subtle, and probably missed by most, but the sysops push is on with each post:

"Atlas was used by IT and treated badly"...Crying or Very sad
"The NC will support Atlas when they go to war against IT"...Wink
"Bobby had the guts to stand up to Molle"..Shocked
"Props to Bobby for being honest"...Cool
"IT is the reason the war failed and Molle is to blame!!"...Wink
"Molle threatened Atlas and -A- so we should all help them destroy IT!!"...Confused
"Atlas is our new BFF and we should defend their honour!!"...Rolling Eyes

And on and on it goes trying to plant the seed of deceit in the SC Alliances heads......pretty weak NC, pretty weak...Rolling Eyes

The war was lost when the "5 Teams" did not show up together plain and simple. IT was burned out fighting all of the NC for
a month while -A- was burned out taking Providence down. WTF Atlas was doing the whole time no ones knows but I guess its
true that once one thing goes wrong Bobby blames everyone else and runs back home with his toys....Neutral

Let's be honest here, the game is f'd and at this point the only style of fighting that it supports is the **** that PL does.
Small groups of about 100 picking fights with weaker groups, hot dropping, or blowing stuff up when no one is around. If the
SC wanted some good PvP balance they would:

* Keep X-7, Aunenen, Obe etc, fully stocked with ships and such.
* Jump clones at their respective stations
* Have planned events together where they all jump up there a couple weekends a month for some fun and see who can
achieve an objective in their designated target systems....or something along those lines.

While back at home the SC should have a rotating schedule each day/week as to who is responsible for tracking and hunting
down PL and wiping them out again. PL needs to be kept guessing as to who is after them instead of who should they go after.

Fly safe ***gots....YARRRR!!



Um...

Do you know anything about what's been going on?

How about the fact that when Atlas deployed to Vale, Molle ordered IT to only provide minimal support when absolutely necessary.

How about the fact that Molle ordered Atlas and IT caps to log off in H-W, which lead to both alliances having billions of isk in assets inaccessible.

Basically, Molle ordered everyone to do x and y, but didn't give the other alliances the support they needed to really be effective. Bobby got sick of this and decided to **** off back home.

While Atlas is slowly evolving it's tactics, going from sniperhac's and trying to control the lag in a system to the drake gangs they're beginning to run now, Molle still thinks the solution to everything is to throw a dart at a Eve map on the wall and then proceed to hurl as many caps and supercaps as he can muster and just assume it'll work.

Both IT and Atlas are facing trouble in their own backyard that is probably more important than this 'Northern Crusade', but only Atlas is the one who got smart and went home.

Besides... what the **** has Privateer Alliance done lately?

Funkcikle
Gallente
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.22 16:14:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Sextus Licinius
ATLAS lost quite a few hundred billions in H-W alone and blame Molle for it, because they were told this is gonna be a walk in the park and believe the strategy was bad.
In this moment, ATLAS is considered defeated by the NC being unable to wage war due to isk lost, morale shattered and propaganda, this is how history will see it anyway.

Molle's strategy in H-W depended on pilots being able to login and play EVE before the rf timers reach zero which was not possible, so NC/PL blame Molle and ATLAS buy's it.
NC realizes that propaganda works like a charm with ATLAS so they try to take it even further by trying to get ATLAS on their side.

Is interesting to see how this plays out in the future.



Psst M8!, you accidently posted that with your Atlas alt.. 00ops
/me facepalms

And to the rest of you doubters, rest assuredly assured that no propaganda in the world is more powerful than Dastys clumsy heartfelt (and mostly drunk) truisms.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.05.22 17:02:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Heptameron


Yes the NC can field mad numbers, but we have been pushed that way continuosly by other entities coming north and fielding mad numbers.


Yeah, who could forget the incredibly huge fleets that Ev0ke, for instance, was fielding in Cloud Ring. No-one could accuse you of utterly outblobbing a small alliance who was no real threat, in a region that no-one really wants, that time, right?. And then the campaign against Tri last summer when you were forced to campaign with a mere ~5:1 fleet numbers advantage. Being lucky enough to make it through a deadly crisis like that is bound to make people draw the wagons into a circle. Rolling Eyes

No, seriously though. Who are you trying to persuade? You always bring the maximum possible numbers against everyone, regardless of their actual threat. I'm not trying to say that you're wrong to do so - play the game how you like. But dont insult our intelligence by trying to say that the NC engage in any other way. If it was possible for small alliances to fight one of you without getting 5 titans and 400 subcaps dropped on them, then they might. It's not, because that's what you always do.

You know as well as I do that if a comparably sized alliance was to campaign against one of your pets who are yapping so loudly in this thread, they'd be batphoning you before the first cyno finished. And you'd come.

The NC is a solution that creates it's own "problem" (assuming you think the kind of fights you're getting are a problem). Again, I'm not criticising you for creating such a large, cohesive, well organised coalition. Only for your attempt to pretend that anyone can deal with you in any other way.


Centauris
Gallente
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.23 01:07:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Heptameron


Yes the NC can field mad numbers, but we have been pushed that way continuosly by other entities coming north and fielding mad numbers.


Yeah, who could forget the incredibly huge fleets that Ev0ke, for instance, was fielding in Cloud Ring. No-one could accuse you of utterly outblobbing a small alliance who was no real threat, in a region that no-one really wants, that time, right?. And then the campaign against Tri last summer when you were forced to campaign with a mere ~5:1 fleet numbers advantage. Being lucky enough to make it through a deadly crisis like that is bound to make people draw the wagons into a circle. Rolling Eyes

No, seriously though. Who are you trying to persuade? You always bring the maximum possible numbers against everyone, regardless of their actual threat. I'm not trying to say that you're wrong to do so - play the game how you like. But dont insult our intelligence by trying to say that the NC engage in any other way. If it was possible for small alliances to fight one of you without getting 5 titans and 400 subcaps dropped on them, then they might. It's not, because that's what you always do.

You know as well as I do that if a comparably sized alliance was to campaign against one of your pets who are yapping so loudly in this thread, they'd be batphoning you before the first cyno finished. And you'd come.

The NC is a solution that creates it's own "problem" (assuming you think the kind of fights you're getting are a problem). Again, I'm not criticising you for creating such a large, cohesive, well organised coalition. Only for your attempt to pretend that anyone can deal with you in any other way.




**** me, you guys say its a war so we bring more, cry us a river. Im sure you would think differently if the numbers were on your side.

Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.05.23 01:38:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Centauris
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Heptameron


Yes the NC can field mad numbers, but we have been pushed that way continuosly by other entities coming north and fielding mad numbers.


Yeah, who could forget the incredibly huge fleets that Ev0ke, for instance, was fielding in Cloud Ring. No-one could accuse you of utterly outblobbing a small alliance who was no real threat, in a region that no-one really wants, that time, right?. And then the campaign against Tri last summer when you were forced to campaign with a mere ~5:1 fleet numbers advantage. Being lucky enough to make it through a deadly crisis like that is bound to make people draw the wagons into a circle. Rolling Eyes

No, seriously though. Who are you trying to persuade? You always bring the maximum possible numbers against everyone, regardless of their actual threat. I'm not trying to say that you're wrong to do so - play the game how you like. But dont insult our intelligence by trying to say that the NC engage in any other way. If it was possible for small alliances to fight one of you without getting 5 titans and 400 subcaps dropped on them, then they might. It's not, because that's what you always do.

You know as well as I do that if a comparably sized alliance was to campaign against one of your pets who are yapping so loudly in this thread, they'd be batphoning you before the first cyno finished. And you'd come.

The NC is a solution that creates it's own "problem" (assuming you think the kind of fights you're getting are a problem). Again, I'm not criticising you for creating such a large, cohesive, well organised coalition. Only for your attempt to pretend that anyone can deal with you in any other way.




**** me, you guys say its a war so we bring more, cry us a river. Im sure you would think differently if the numbers were on your side.


I think your missing the point.

Your also making me agree with Malcanis, something that me and Malcanis try to keep to a minimum.

What he's saying, is it doesn't matter WHO attacks the north, or WHY they attack, or how many.

Tomorrow, a 200 man alliance could go push ME's **** in, and start invading Geminate, within a week, the NC would field 400+ subcaps and 20 titans in the systems in question to push the invaders out.

Its ok to be chicken****, but don't try to hide it when its so blatantly obvious to EVERYBODY ELSE in the game.

You guys don't actually like fights, you absolutely DON'T want fights, you want to rat/plex/mine in peace, and you'll break the game to get the chance. Otherwise, you'd have figured out that each entity in the north can field its own near node shattering fleet if they want, and easily defend their own space, and that if you REALLY wanted good fights your surrounded by neighbors that could easily provide those on any given day of the week, provided you reset standings and stood on your own two feet that is.

Don't try to shadow it this time with the whole "you started a war thing", its been the NC's calling card to bring the kitchen sink to every single engagement they've EVER been in.

Zee Wolf
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.05.23 04:42:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Sextus Licinius
ATLAS lost quite a few hundred billions in H-W alone and blame Molle for it, because they were told this is gonna be a walk in the park and believe the strategy was bad.
In this moment, ATLAS is considered defeated by the NC being unable to wage war due to isk lost, morale shattered and propaganda, this is how history will see it anyway.

Molle's strategy in H-W depended on pilots being able to login and play EVE before the rf timers reach zero which was not possible, so NC/PL blame Molle and ATLAS buy's it.
NC realizes that propaganda works like a charm with ATLAS so they try to take it even further by trying to get ATLAS on their side.

Is interesting to see how this plays out in the future.


Sextus Licinius
Caldari
Phantom Squad
Atlas Alliance
Very Happy


Ginjin Anarkisaki
Minmatar
Ars ex Discordia
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.05.23 05:02:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Jones Bones
Internet spaceships are serious business.


not empty quotin

Dyzzy Dyvyl
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.05.23 17:13:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Ginjin Anarkisaki
Originally by: Jones Bones
Internet spaceships are serious business.


not empty quotin


i belive the quote on the bottom of my sig says it all for that post

^^

Battle Tested
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.05.23 17:37:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Ace Frehley
what war? Shocked

I was drinking beer and listen to Dio for the last month....


RIP Ronnie James Dio, he was a true metal icon......as for the war talk from a privateer of all people > BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, JITA, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH

Snot Shot
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.05.23 18:00:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Bernadictus
Why are Privateers posting fail about .0 warfare? You hardly ever leave Jita. No go and have fun neutral repping your dock fleets. And keeps spamming dock once we jump in!

17:23:59 Combat Your Shrapnel Bomb hits shakrii [.K.]<T C F>(Avatar), doing 3220.0 damage.

We never leave Jita.....Wink Even after you ran away I am still up here kickin ass..YARRRR!!


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