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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.03 20:41:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: CCP Dropbear
There are other ways to infer their nature, and the nature of their conversation. I watched people do a fantastic job of this stuff for Blind Auction a while ago, this one should be easy in comparison to the work players pulled off there. Very Happy


But that was easier, as that was politics ...

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.03 20:52:00 - [62]
 

Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 03/06/2010 21:04:40
OK, I'm really going with radiation, solar or background radiation now as an energy source.

Look at Oruze Enclave:
1.0 Solar Engineering; Stars producing a steady stream of radiation of all kinds. If you can engineer solar systems, and you can harvest the energy at the radiation level, you've basically created an endless energy source. Doesn't work well for biological life, but still.

1.1 Photoelectrical Engineering; You'll have to convert radiation into electricity for easy use. Photon emission is a form of radiation, as in light. If you can convert light into electricity, there you have it. Light doesn't work well far from the source, but the principle of radiation into energy into electricity is fundamentally the same for all types of radiation.

1.2 Thermovoltaics; Heat (thermo) into electricity (voltaics) or rather current is the same same principle as above, now only applied to heat.

1.3 and 1.4 Residential; means nothing as such, but if you're building a research enclave out in the middle of nowhere, you'd put the residential areas closest to the place where the power is generated. Assuming the Sleepers were humanoid biological life (probable), they'd need the power close to survive.

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.03 20:57:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 03/06/2010 21:17:20
Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 03/06/2010 21:04:19
Ohh, and the difference between the Oruze Enclave and the other enclaves is that it is the only one with residential areas. None of the other have that.

Oruze = Oor huss = Our House/Home?

If it is their house, it is interesting that they chose to research Solar Engineering and radiation->energy conversion in it. Wouldn't it be epic if the Sleeper transformed themselves into energy based life-forms that now life in/near the biggest radiation sources: the stars? That would explain the quarantined areas near powerful energy sources ...

Bit creepy though, the Sleepers being essentially light, and possibly living in our T3 ships in the form of energy ... bloody viruses ... It might also explain all the thermoelectric items from the Sleepers ...

CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.06.03 21:20:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
There are other ways to infer their nature, and the nature of their conversation. I watched people do a fantastic job of this stuff for Blind Auction a while ago, this one should be easy in comparison to the work players pulled off there. Very Happy


But that was easier, as that was politics ...


If it was purely about the science, Hilen Tukoss wouldn't be scrambling for diplomats...

CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.06.03 21:21:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Alchazzar
I'm curious, does anyone know what the empire corporations do with the "sleeper tags" once they take them off our hands?


It's right there in the chronicle, man! Very Happy

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.03 21:21:00 - [66]
 

Linkage

Looks like you just missed you first 'face' to face encounter with a Sleeper there Laughing

CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.06.03 21:30:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
various things...


Originally by: Myxx
...on the same wavelength...


You're making progress, but I am surprised by people who know things and yet are seemingly uninterested in their implications!?

"If this situation is ever understood in its entirety, there will be consequences for these actions."

Maybe some parts still need time to settle, or become more overt... Razz

Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
Posted - 2010.06.03 21:48:00 - [68]
 

I have a rule where I only read the chronicles at break time at work. What a time to go on holiday :(
All this talk is making me want to break my rule. It sounds like this is one the best chronicles in a while.


CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.06.03 22:37:00 - [69]
 

I'm not sure about your plans, this Chron is hard work. Laughing

And I swear Pottsey...you're killing me twice as much! You'll understand why eventually, I'm sure...

*bites what's left of his tongue off*


Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Project Daedalid
Posted - 2010.06.03 23:07:00 - [70]
 

Edited by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara on 27/07/2010 01:00:47

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.03 23:35:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
There are other ways to infer their nature, and the nature of their conversation. I watched people do a fantastic job of this stuff for Blind Auction a while ago, this one should be easy in comparison to the work players pulled off there. Very Happy


But that was easier, as that was politics ...


If it was purely about the science, Hilen Tukoss wouldn't be scrambling for diplomats...


OK then, I kicked it off: First analysis.

I've identified most of the people speaking, who they are speaking about, and most of what they are speaking about, but there's a lot to go still ...

Selar Nox
Posted - 2010.06.03 23:49:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Pottsey
Stasis People
[...] The Stasis People are Jovians that voluntarily go into cryo-stasis for decades or centuries, hoping that when they wake a bright and better world will greet them.


Wouldn't the term 'Sleeper' fit to this description?

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.03 23:57:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 03/06/2010 23:59:16
As I see it, the Jovians already know a lot more about this. Hence the reference to "Our engineers have already produced a range of schematics.", although that probably refers to the strategic cruisers.

I think CONCORD and the Jovians are working together, keeping the empires and the capsuleers in the dark, but they still need to do research, which is what they need the sleeper components for.

I'm not certain Hilen knows what the Sleepers are, nor did Burreau, but they knew where to look (Burreau was taught by the best), and Hilen knew the Jovians know more about it. Creodron knows more about it because they know about drones. In the end only the Jovians seem to know what lies at the end of the tunnel, but they want to either get there first, or introduce the knowledge on their terms, what they are afraid of, and fear, is that the capsuleers will get there first.

But clearly what lies ahead has lots of consequences, which is why Hilen needed diplomats and not scientists, he wants to control it before it gets out of hand.

Still, I'm going with the theory that the Sleepers cheated death by divorcing their intelligence from their physical being and that they manifest themselves as energy, light, or some wavelength and are still alive in that form in the wormholes. In the physical world they manifest themselves through the Sleeper drones, where their essence lives on in some shared or emergent memory. Given that the Jovians are mostly after information, it is that they want to tap into, because it holds the key to their survival (the biological information needed to revive themselves as a species) as well as a whole host of information about the Eve gate/wormhole, and earth beyond. Capsuleers are far more effective at getting pieces of that puzzle our of the wormholes, but when they do, they bring the Sleepers out into New Eden as well, and that may have disastrous consequences, also for the Jovians. It could be cataclismic, which would explain why the Sansha are also after this information.

I'm still no nearer to what those consequences could be though but I wouldn't be surprised if it had anything to do with the rogue drones.

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.04 00:09:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 04/06/2010 00:10:31
Originally by: Selar Nox
Originally by: Pottsey
Stasis People
[...] The Stasis People are Jovians that voluntarily go into cryo-stasis for decades or centuries, hoping that when they wake a bright and better world will greet them.


Wouldn't the term 'Sleeper' fit to this description?


What if the Jovians as a species have declined in numbers so much, that most of them are now in stasis, but they no longer posses the knowledge to bring them back without damaging them irreparably.

In that context, the Jovians need access to Sleeper technology about cryo-stasis to revive themselves as a species, in a literal sense. Maybe that is the thing that the CEO of CONCORD didn't realise? That the Jovians are on the brink of extinction and that they desperately need access to Sleeper technology to avoid that from happening, otherwise those stasis people will wake up somewhere in the distance future, if ever, to a society that has been dead for a long while.

Maybe the good ambassador was afraid the CONCORD CEO knew that she was talking to one of the last awake survivors of the entire Jovian race?

The Jovians certainly would want to hide that fact, given that that would make them very vulnerable to attack from the other empires?

Maybe it's not that the Sleepers are the Stasis people but that they are fast becoming like them, i.e., extinct?

Radgette
Posted - 2010.06.04 00:11:00 - [75]
 

theres 1 piece of this that noone ever seems to mention and that is at the end of the empyrean age novel.

when the jovian eidolon collecting data is destroyed as it flies into the eve gate. the whole section is very cryptic and it's been a while since i read the book so my memory is a tad vague but surely this has some bearing here

Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Project Daedalid
Posted - 2010.06.04 00:18:00 - [76]
 

Edited by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara on 27/07/2010 01:01:00

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.04 00:27:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Edited by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara on 04/06/2010 00:19:09
Originally by: Radgette
theres 1 piece of this that noone ever seems to mention and that is at the end of the empyrean age novel.

when the jovian eidolon collecting data is destroyed as it flies into the eve gate. the whole section is very cryptic and it's been a while since i read the book so my memory is a tad vague but surely this has some bearing here

This should answer some questions. Or at least start you on the path.

Specifically:
Quote:
Whatever it was, the invasion event coincided with a spike in EVE gate activity. Moreover, once I had carefully picked apart the scant data on record from that momentous day in the skies above Mekhios, I discovered traces of that very same signature found in the EVE gate. The two were connected, I reasoned; the two must be connected. I knew I was on to something.



Well, there was this whole thing about a special fuel gathered by rogue drones needed to fuel the super-weapon on Jamyl's ship that came from a place with apparently an old earth structure. The spikes apparently coincided with finding, collecting, and use of the old earth fuel. But I didn't like that part of the novel very well. It was so divorced from the rest of the back-story that I rather try to forget it.

Gil Danastre
Amarr
JAF-CO Exploration
Posted - 2010.06.04 00:44:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: CCP Dropbear
I'm not sure about your plans, this Chron is hard work. Laughing

And I swear Pottsey...you're killing me twice as much! You'll understand why eventually, I'm sure...

*bites what's left of his tongue off*




Hm, talking about holidays? Maybe the sleepers, or whatever lies in the mirrors, just haven't reached the time to wake up yet? Smile

The mention of clones is interesting. Burreau is "dead", but she has clones. Maybe her consciousness will be transferred back into a new body at some point, with the memories of whatever she saw before she died, or even after Idea

I'm fairly certain now that the female speaking with the Jove ambassador is the head of CONCORD, as she says, "You must still realize that we cannot become publicly involved in this?" I am wondering who exactly the other shadowy board of directors are though.

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.04 00:52:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 04/06/2010 00:53:01
Originally by: Gil Danastre
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
I'm not sure about your plans, this Chron is hard work. Laughing

And I swear Pottsey...you're killing me twice as much! You'll understand why eventually, I'm sure...

*bites what's left of his tongue off*




Hm, talking about holidays? Maybe the sleepers, or whatever lies in the mirrors, just haven't reached the time to wake up yet? Smile

The mention of clones is interesting. Burreau is "dead", but she has clones. Maybe her consciousness will be transferred back into a new body at some point, with the memories of whatever she saw before she died, or even after Idea

I'm fairly certain now that the female speaking with the Jove ambassador is the head of CONCORD, as she says, "You must still realize that we cannot become publicly involved in this?" I am wondering who exactly the other shadowy board of directors are though.


The other shadowy directors are just the directors of Creodron, they have no other purpose than to be there as public Laughing

At least, that's what I think ...

But I agree on the CEO of CONCORD, she is the she ...

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.04 01:03:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 04/06/2010 01:37:57
Where the Sleepers live? What if Oruze Osobnyk is not the name of the facility but a message? A warning? If you translate it to: Оружа Особ Ni, then apparently in Serbian you get: People Not Weapons Rolling Eyes, in Russian Оружа Особ Ни apparently means: No Weapons of Particular Rolling EyesRolling Eyes

Quote:

Oruze Osobnyk

The mysterious structure inside this deadspace pocket offers few clues as to the purpose it once served. Similar compounds -- albeit far less complex than this one -- have been reported, each featuring the same huddled architecture, evocative of the enigmatic Phantom cruiser. What relation the Oruze structures may have to one another remains a mystery. An enclave positioned at the heart of the construct appears to have been entirely redesigned. It is flanked by two others, which in turn are hedged in by engineering stations that themselves seem to have been redesigned. The only insight into the unique architecture is the word Oruze Osobnyk, which continually resurfaces throughout the garbled, largely indecipherable transmissions that emanate from within.

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Object: Sleeper Thermoelectric Converter
Desc: Despite countless years in space, this structure appears to be entirely functional. A brief analysis of the technology inside reveals that it operates as some kind of central power source for other Sleeper facilities. Faint seams in the rigid armor suggest it may even house a docking port to power the Sleeper's automated drones.

---
Object: Sleeper Enclave
Desc: Imposing in its majesty, this giant dome stands as a testament to the technological might of the ancient Sleeper race. Even millennia old, the innumerable electronics systems within are still comparable to contemporary technology, in some cases even exceeding it. The distinctive hub-like design of this particular structure suggests that it operated as some kind of central data nexus, a shining capital amongst a digital metropolis.

Although entirely functional and intact, the only signs of life within are electrical currents and the eerily constant transfers of data.

----
Object: Sleeper Engineering Station
Desc: This enigmatic structure appears to house numerous engineering subsystems. An outer defense system is still online, shielding the installation from any hostile actions. Inside the facility there is a maze of data networks tangled amongst the cables and conduits that sustain them.


Gil Danastre
Amarr
JAF-CO Exploration
Posted - 2010.06.04 01:47:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane

The other shadowy directors are just the directors of Creodron, they have no other purpose than to be there as public Laughing

At least, that's what I think ...

But I agree on the CEO of CONCORD, she is the she ...


No, the other shadowy directors;

Quote:
Somewhere far from Carirgnottin I, in an equally dark and oppressive board room, another group of figures waited impatiently as one of their own excused himself to take a call.


Carirgnottin I is where the chron starts, with CreoDron and Darieux. Maybe Jaques Roden and friends? He was elevated to signifigance of late.

Actually, digging back a bit, in "The Vitrauze Project" Burreau found and vanished into a wormhole in Vitrauze. In the news during Apocrypha, she had been sending reports back live through Barille. Maybe there are more than one of her active at a given time?

Plus, in The Vitrauze Project, it makes mention that before the Black Eagles arrived there, there had been 1 reported wormhole. Shortly after they arrived, coinciding with Burreau going through and contacting the Mirror, that had spiked to 19, and later 72.

Maybe, maybe all the isogen-5 explosions had happened to allow for a single hole to open. Once Burreau made contact, something triggered, causing the resulting ones.

Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Project Daedalid
Posted - 2010.06.04 02:07:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara on 27/07/2010 01:01:16

Carla Messer
Hard Knocks Inc.
Posted - 2010.06.04 04:44:00 - [83]
 

We need to immediately set up a giant Jovian detection satellite network to track their movements, study their habits, and then kill as many of them as possible.

Aynen
Posted - 2010.06.04 07:23:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Quote:
Maybe, maybe all the isogen-5 explosions had happened to allow for a single hole to open. Once Burreau made contact, something triggered, causing the resulting ones.

Wormholes are hidden paths. Mind blown yet?
I don't suppose it's possible that the Empress' terran weapon which she aquired in 'the Empyrian Age' and functioned on isogen-5 could have caused the universe to destabilize, brining about the wormholes, could it? If so, the tech was terran, and must have been around when the Eve gate was still open. Perhaps it was this tech that closed the Eve gate?

Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
Posted - 2010.06.04 09:26:00 - [85]
 

Nikilaiki Ruutarhara said "What can I do, post something on IGS based solely on information gleaned from chronicles that are, apparently, OOC knowledge?"
There are ways around that and still staying in character. Just train max military and political connections and the otherconnections skills. That way you can explain how you have access to knowledge about the Broker and other rarely known facts that people in the military or Government would know but the general pod pilots or public wouldn't. It helps if you have very high standings to go with the high connections. I am pretty sure someone with 9 or 10 standings and max connections could gain acess to some of the info.


Aynen said "I don't suppose it's possible that the Empress' terran weapon which she aquired in 'the Empyrian Age' and functioned on isogen-5 could have caused the universe to destabilize, brining about the wormholes, could it?"
That's pretty much what happened. From the looks of it there where stash's of isogen-5 around strategic locations both in empire and I am 90% sure stashes of isogen-5 around strategic areas of wormhole space. The isogen-5 was linked together when the Terran weapon exploded causing a chain reaction that caused the wormholes. The stash's where put there via rogue drones. Most likely rogue drones that where changed by Sleeper drones or whoever controls the Sleeper drones. Sleeper drones have been seen in empire trying to build something.

It might be worth re reading the End of the world set of chronicles. Don't forget to read the Sansha bits.
"Nor could they know that the ancient race which had placed them there possessed not only a vision beyond the grasp of today's science, but also the technological advancement necessary to realize its potential." is another line I like.

Anyone got an overview of the Sasha life events? Unfortunately I missed most of them due to being in wormhole space and by the time I got out the events had stopped.

Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
Posted - 2010.06.04 09:51:00 - [86]
 

Possibly going off track here.
" The Takmahls were heretics of the worst sort, some call them the predecessors of the Blood Raider cult."
If this is true 3 of the old race's have links to isogen 5 and wormholes. Know I just need to find that Yan Jung link. The Yan Jung who had ships way bigger then Dreadnoughts 14,000 ish years ago. If anyone had the ability to build massive colony ships it would be them. Add into Sleeper stasis technology and you have a way to get to wormhole space without wormholes. In theory if the 3 or 4 old race's worked together each using their own technology expertise they could have built a very large colony ship that dwarfs today capital ships. A ship that could make its way back to Earth or other far away place's. I still believe the Yan Jung where trying to get back to the Middle Kingdom, most likely there homeland on earth.

"But it's the size! I mean, with equalizers this big, the engines themselves would have to have been, well, absolutely enormous. I mean, a ship that could house an engine this size must have been… Well, no modern dreadnought could even compare" in reference to Yan Jung parts.

Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
Posted - 2010.06.04 10:34:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Pottsey on 04/06/2010 10:40:46
Just to throw a few more ideas out there. In the same way the drone regions where seeded so was wormhole space. The drones in kspace where made to seed gates around the region to aid in colonisation.
Sleepers drones could well be the same but on not only a larger scale but more high tech scale and possiblely for another reason other than just colonisation They were seeded throughout wormhole space to build up a network for the beings that are to follow to use at a later date. Not just gates but full scale infrastructure. This network is linked tougher via Talocan Static Gate's and the communication relays.

The Sleeper network was designed over a 1000 years ago and I get the impression it wasn't for colonisation but a wider more scientific research goal.

Possibly the Sleepers created a massive network to recreate another Eve wormhole. But something went wrong and lots of mini wormholes got created instead. Perhaps I am wrong about creating a 2nd Eve wormhole But I believe we are meant to see the Sleeper network as a whole with a clear aim. Not lots of individual systems and buildings. The network is a network as you come across massive information relays that can send an astonishing amount of information.

The biggest problem in figuring everything out is we do not have a central area with all the information. I believe we need all the sleeper lore in one location. All the warp in popup info, all the show info, everything in one location.

"Long-range scanning reveals a chaotic line of asteroids and debris, stretching out endlessly as it twists onwards into the darkness. Upon arrival, it seems as if the place is empty and has been for quite some time. There is the sense however, that it was not always this way. Huge amounts of data are passing through the area, as if there was once a receiver for it somewhere nearby.

The already dim sunlight barely manages to pierce the clouds as they drift effortlessly through a tangled promenade of scarred and broken rock. Every few seconds, the ship's sensors simulate the sound of another small explosion nearby; one more camera drone that couldn't spot the debris."
Huge amounts of data are passing through the area is or other versions of this is something you come across a lot.

Kai Allori
Posted - 2010.06.04 10:41:00 - [88]
 

Edited by: Kai Allori on 04/06/2010 10:47:47
Edited by: Kai Allori on 04/06/2010 10:42:49
Do we have timelines for each of the ancient races?
How do the previous Jove empires fit into the timeline?

The Takhmal are an offshoot of the Amarr - so are fairly recent. It seems fairly logical that the Takhmal came across the sleeper installations the same way we did. Via wormholes. As the Sleeper sites are still active they maybe did what we cant yet do - contact the sleeper civilisation - who still exist as uploaded entities. Maybe they followed them into VR.

Its also interesting one of the Jove faction are referred to as sleepers. Are the Sleepers just earlier Jove?

Point in case we can do half of this already - the cloning and clone jump technologies are upload and download of digitised conciousness. Thats tech given to us by the Jove.

The sleeper drones are just the janitors. If your civilisation is going to dissapear into a posthuman singularity as digitised conciousnesses - you want to make sure your infrastructure is still going to work once you are all gone. So the drones are just autorepair and defense. They may also be programmed to automatically increase capacity with new construction. So the wormhole network may be the result of automated construction.

Aynen
Posted - 2010.06.04 10:55:00 - [89]
 

It makes sense to me that the orinigal sleeper race, before digitizing themselves, would create a failsafe where, if the sleeper drones failed to protect them, some would be able to wake up and take matters into their own hands. This brings us to a question: Are the digitized sleepers aware of the non-digital world around them? Do the sleeper drones communicate with the sleeper conciousness? If we where to destroy all the enclaves, what would they do to protect themselves?

Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
Posted - 2010.06.04 10:59:00 - [90]
 

Been updating my Sleeper lore document, will upload it later. But came across these which seems interesting.

Ejected Sleeper Databank
"Although emergent systems are not fully-fledged Artificial Intelligences, they are often so advanced that they can border on sentience. The means by which they are created is also a common source for claims that they are in fact, full-blown AIs. Emergent system development is said to have been an early focal point in Jovian software design, where they hoped to create an atmosphere in which an advanced system could self-assemble its own consciousness and thus “emerge” as a sentient being. What became of these projects remains unknown, although the Jovians appear to have abandoned these pursuits many millennia ago in favor of something more tangible and containable.

Designed from the ground up to perform complex, real-time combat calculations such as weapon tracking and heat optimization, this device shows the signatures of an emergent intelligence. Despite this, various hard limitations have been encoded into the device at the most fundamental level, greatly limiting its potential to evolve any further. Even in its current state though, it represents some of the most advanced combat electronics ever built. Although nothing about the software is in itself revolutionary, it is able to tackle highly complex tasks with a frightening level of speed and efficiency."


"Jump Drive Control Nexus
Barely salvageable from the wreck of a Sleeper drone, this device could have been something much more impressive when it was fully functional. In its current state it is almost unrecognizable, having been scratched, burned and even chemically melted. It looks like it was housed next to the drone's power core, which would explain the extreme heat damage it suffered when the drone exploded.
Stranger yet, it almost seems as if it was lined with some kind of triggered-release corrosive. The self-destruct mechanism – if that’s even what it was – only caused so much damage, and the acid didn't burn cleanly through the center of the drive.

Even as a shadow of its former self, it can be combined with other components to form a fully functional warp drive. Being capable of this, even in such a bad state, strongly suggests that the device was capable of other types of more advanced interstellar travel. Why a Sleeper drone was equipped with this level of technology remains a mystery."

"Cartesian Temporal Coordinator
At first glance this coordinator appears to be a common enough piece of equipment, albeit an odd one to be found inside a drone. Designed to plot various points in time across a potentially infinite period, these devices are often used for scientific calculations.

For some unknown reason, this particular coordinator is configured to synchronize its processing speed in time with the distance travelled between two points. What purpose this serves remains a mystery, but the object’s basic functionality can be reconfigured. With the addition of a few other components, it would allow electronics systems to more easily withstand the interference from subspace distortion."



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