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Azazias
Posted - 2010.07.25 20:42:00 - [31]
 

Ya I want to change my name!

Meiesque
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:34:00 - [32]
 

Supported on all points. Alts and char trading already allow ppl with bad rep to hide, so I feel that bad names should be changeable. The player gets what they want and CCP gets more cash. Just make it expensive to prevent abuse if needs be.

Shaalira D'arc
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:52:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Shaalira D''arc on 05/08/2010 13:51:55
I made a new topic with a similar proposal but failed to search for duplicate topics. In any case, reposting here to add some suggestions for how it might work. Either way, I support the suggestion. Original post:

From this thread, it appears there's a fair amount of interest in being able to change a character's name. There are also valid concerns about the exploitability of name changes, particularly in a highly social game where trust comes at a premium. Here are some suggestions for permitting name changes while preventing abuse.

Permit a player to modify a character's name, but...
1. Limit the number of times each character can change their name, perhaps to once a year or once a lifetime; and
2. Charge the player for the service, either with an account payment similar to portrait swaps, an isk cost commensurate with the character's age/skill, or through the use of a PLEX.

When a character changes their name...
1. The name change appears in their employment history;
2. Anyone who has that character in their address book is sent notification;
3. Any searches of the old name still turn up the character; and
4. Forum posts show the previous name in parenthesis below the current name.

I think with these measures in place (and with the usual moderation of 'bad' names), CCP can safely implement a change name feature.

Griff Tarken
Caldari
Genetisystems
Posted - 2010.08.05 18:40:00 - [34]
 

I'm against this... though a possible compromise would involve characters being able to change their name, but the original name still showing. What?!? Yeah, I know, sounds counter intuitive. In some MMO's you can turn on/off levels of info. If their old name was displayed say parenthetically beside their new name and said old name could never be removed, then I'd be okay with this. Hiding the old name and therefore the history associated with that name behind windows and info buttons makes this a big no for me. Make their old name as transparent as their new name, however, and I could tentatively agree.

Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2010.08.05 20:59:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: evilphoenix
I support this.

I would very much like to meet a scammer/griefer/pirate/thief that was actually affected by someone he/she took advantage of.

It is too easy to go to a different region, take a month long break, buy an alt, ect...

Anyone who thinks your reputation is worth two cents, then I've got a suggestion for you, don't change your name.

I created a thread on this before I seen this thread: Linkage Here is also a thread that was created some time ago, that had moderate support: Linkage




This is actually false. Our corp was robbed about a year ago. We ended up in the same alliance as the thief later on. Because we recognized his name in a fleet, we were able to pass on what had happened. If his name had been different, we might have not noticed. It isn't like people are constantly keeping tabs on thieves.

I would support name changes only if you could flag characters on a personal/corp/alliance level with different tags: scammer, thief, loot thief, etc. If you could tag people, you would be able to quickly identify a character, even if they had a name change.

As to the idea that putting an "AKA [insert old name]" after the new name, you need only look back to SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO name to see how someone could create such a long string that their old name might not be noticed.

Bhattran
Posted - 2010.08.06 01:05:00 - [36]
 

No.

There are far TOO MANY ways to escape penalties from your actions in game through the use of alts, trial accounts, bought/traded characters etc.

The bare minimum for any name change would be it does nothing to your standings, combat logs, kill rights, etc and how they are setup with other players. If a player has another in their watch list, changing a name doesn't affect the watch list, standings, notes, etc and there is clearly some history or AKA attached to them.

BUT the point is you, everyone, should be held responsible for their own character, you made it/bought it so you have to live with it. I oppose character selling/transfers I understand why people do it and why they might want it but it along with the ease of recycling alts, making trials are all taken advantage of by those who know how to do it effectively. Changing your name just adds another layer to this stack of 'escape' from consequences as not everyone or every system is going to track and keep the name changes up to date. The game already has few real consequences that can be imposed on a player by others, only if you can find them and 'catch' them can you extract any 'revenge/justice' but only in so much as you can take what they put at risk. One can easily turn a character into a station trader or turn on an alt if really hounded by other players which AFAIK rarely if ever happens.

I realize in many instances a character isn't tracked and hunted or banished by their identity but I think there should be more ways to make players aware of who/what characters are about not less.

paritybit
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.08.06 19:52:00 - [37]
 

Anything you want to do that will completely sully your reputation you can do with a disposable alt. Scams? Disposable alt. Suicide ganking? Disposable alt. Corp spy? Disposable alt.

With the disposable "i win" button, there is no reason not to allow very limited name changing. This doesn't remove corporation history, standings, security status, bounty or anything related to the character's true nature.

No reason not to support this. I can walk down to the courthouse today and buy a name change.

Aion Amarra
Minmatar
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
Black Core Alliance
Posted - 2010.08.07 04:25:00 - [38]
 


MigG176
Posted - 2010.08.07 07:07:00 - [39]
 

I can see where name changing should be allowed but very early in you subscription to the game. Suppose when joining eve you thought of a silly name just having a laugh not intending to stay. You got char building and got to like the game to stay but the name is now niggling away at you but to start a new char would cost you two months of training. In this case a time limit of say 2 months and petition along with a system to ensure that it is no an exploit, could allow for a
name change.

evilphoenix
Gods of War LLC
Posted - 2010.08.14 02:20:00 - [40]
 

bump

Norath84
The Executives
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.08.14 11:23:00 - [41]
 


Dielax
Posted - 2010.08.14 11:38:00 - [42]
 

I wouldn't mind a name change. I always regretted not giving my character a last name :(

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2010.08.14 14:34:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Davin Forsosa
Originally by: Marlona Sky
no

Can you please post constructive feedback?



Can anyone post a constructive feedback to a stupid proposition that has already been discussed and flamed for years and has become a troll for itself in the process?

Use eve-search and find your answers.

Not supported btw...

P.S.
While you're at it, you can post a "Can we paint our ships" proposition again. Just saying... It's never too late to necropost an idea that's already been discussed.

Zheren Huli
Above the Law
ESSE Imperium
Posted - 2010.08.14 15:20:00 - [44]
 

my personal oppinion towards this finds itself in the following 2 posts:

Originally by: paritybit
Anything you want to do that will completely sully your reputation you can do with a disposable alt. Scams? Disposable alt. Suicide ganking? Disposable alt. Corp spy? Disposable alt.

With the disposable "i win" button, there is no reason not to allow very limited name changing. This doesn't remove corporation history, standings, security status, bounty or anything related to the character's true nature.

No reason not to support this. I can walk down to the courthouse today and buy a name change.


and...

Originally by: MigG176
I can see where name changing should be allowed but very early in you subscription to the game. Suppose when joining eve you thought of a silly name just having a laugh not intending to stay. You got char building and got to like the game to stay but the name is now niggling away at you but to start a new char would cost you two months of training. In this case a time limit of say 2 months and petition along with a system to ensure that it is no an exploit, could allow for a
name change.



Now let me explain it.

As stated above most scamms are either done by disposable alts or as the lets call them "real" thiefs among the usuals do via bought charackters that after the theft often just get resold with a profit on top for skilling.

Making it more costly than charackter transfer would cost those thiefes more than long time charackter trading so kinda work in the "victims" favor.


However i also see huge problems with it. exspecial big alliance corporations recruit after considering killboard stats aswell which than could be transfered if you arent careful enough to check the times.

Personaly i would much rather see a way to "free" names of very old charackters or corporations that are since years no longer in use, that could stop all this xxnamexx or corporation / alliancename/tickerdot crap.

Kusachiho
Gallente
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2010.08.15 04:30:00 - [45]
 

Hell yes, it would not be very difficult to include a name change history (much like you have in the way of a corp history). And really if someone wanted to beware of a scammer, pirate, etc etc all they would have to do is get off their lazy bums and make a few clicks.

As it is, many new people come into this game not knowing what to expect and just choose a name as they are unsure what to go with, whilst also wanting to experience the game. From there as time progresses, they wish to stick to their character given they do not want to do all the isk gathering/skill training again.

Astroka
Posted - 2010.08.15 08:46:00 - [46]
 

I agree. Sucks when you've named a character, then decide you hate his name or something, but it's far too late to do anything about it. I also agree it should be very limited if players are allowed to do it more than once at all.

Bronya Boga
Amarr
Posted - 2010.08.21 00:47:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Making it harder to keep track of people by reputation, in a game where reputation is so important, is just a bad idea.

Not supported.


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Quantessa
Posted - 2010.08.21 11:53:00 - [48]
 

Not supported. There are plenty of ways to metagame effectively without this additional crutch.

Goremageddon Box
Posted - 2010.08.23 10:43:00 - [49]
 

yes god damnit yes


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