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Aluin Chaput
Caldari
Sacred Templars
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2010.04.18 20:36:00 - [1]
 

Race of super advanced humanoids with similar looks that manage to kill themselves off/render themselves out of the picture by screwing with their genes too much... Kinda obvious now that I think of it.

Dalmont Delantee
Gallente
Shiloh Technologies
Posted - 2010.04.18 22:32:00 - [2]
 


Not really, considering the SG ones are little grey men that are copied from various other sci fi books/ufo mythology...

Read around a bit and find the derviative of where the SG1 stuff comes from, they are just a complete rip off (now the film is taken from some theories about the Egyptian culture where people theorise that there were aliens that gave them their advanced knowledge)

Aluin Chaput
Caldari
Sacred Templars
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2010.04.18 23:23:00 - [3]
 

I dunno, I think they have a bit too many similarities to not be copied. And yeah, The Asgard are unoriginal as it goes, but the Jovian might just be their descendants.

Mithfindel
Zenko Incorporated
Posted - 2010.04.19 08:47:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Mithfindel on 19/04/2010 08:50:01
Well, in an in-character way, no, as Jovians are humans despite all the genetic manipulation they've done to themselves. Of course I don't know enough about Stargåte except that they had these guys with glowing eyes who were supposed to be aliens (no need for even latex foreheads) and a writer with an apostrophe fetish (everyth'ing soun'ds m'ore mys'tic an'd al'ien i'f i't ha's a'n apos'trophe!), but if humans were descendants of the little grey men, then it might make sense.

For the literary role, we'd need to know more about the background. Apparently, in the "writing on the napkin" phase of EVE, there were plans of making Jove a kind of a "prestige class" in EVE, something that was finally ditched, and Jove were tasked to be a kind of a plot device for the devs, instead. So if whoever writes/wrote Stargate has a little grey alter ego with a Viking helmet, then it might match. I think a senior producer (Tortifrans) once accidentally devposted as a Jove character (Veniel).

Edit: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/959091/page/1#29

Esna Pitoojee
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2010.04.19 14:10:00 - [5]
 

The concept of a race of more advanced aliens which opens up a pandora's box by somehow modifying themselves to the point where they are in danger of extinction/extinct is not something SG-1 invented. It's been around in science fiction for a long time.

CCP Big Dumb Object

Posted - 2010.04.19 17:12:00 - [6]
 

Less Chariots of the Gods, more Last and First Men.

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2010.04.21 16:49:00 - [7]
 

They are not even used as plot device anymore. It has been a long time ago since the last Jove-Interaction with the playerbase and all Jovian avatars were removed.

I am not asking for Jovian player characters, or changing an Avatar into a Jove, but it would be nice if the old Jove Avatars were brought back. I would also love to see CCP Pann, CCP Eris Discordia and CCP Adida looking Jovian or "borgified", but that is perhaps just me. Wink

On a second thought, with that above said, I now fully expect bad things to happen to my account. Razz

Mess1ah
Posted - 2010.04.21 17:42:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Deviana Sevidon


On a second thought, with that above said, I now fully expect bad things to happen to my account. Razz



that's jovians for you Very Happy

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
Posted - 2010.04.22 16:17:00 - [9]
 

I thought that Jovians were an evolutionary branch from the human colonists stranded after the EVE gate collapse, obviously being the only ones that didnt decend into a technological dark age.

Mr Reeth
Posted - 2010.04.22 16:29:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Skippermonkey
I thought that Jovians were an evolutionary branch from the human colonists stranded after the EVE gate collapse, obviously being the only ones that didnt decend into a technological dark age.


They descended with everyone else. They just descended slightly less.

The difference in technology between the Jove and the rest of us is not nearly as great as the difference between bigheads and late 20th century Earth.

Kor Shivat
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.04.25 05:46:00 - [11]
 

The battle between the Jove and the Amarr made me think of the Vorlon from Babylon 5, as does the story with exploding stars and what not, though I am hopeful the Jove are not going to be turned into something quite that deux ex machina. Isn't there some other "super advanced race" kicking around to play those Shadow chaps?

The "prophecy" chronicle (I believe "seven signs of the end of the world as we know it") also seems to move in this direction, with the Eve Gate opening back up, whatever is left of Earth trying to reassert control over New Eden, and the Jove having anticipated this (and therefore trying to "prepare" the empires for what's coming).

Teinyhr
Minmatar
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
Posted - 2010.04.26 00:10:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Mr Reeth
The difference in technology between the Jove and the rest of us is not nearly as great as the difference between bigheads and late 20th century Earth.


Well, I have to agree and disagree with this. Since they gave the Caldari and eventually all the empires (I'm not actually sure how the plans for the pod spread? Espionage?), the pod technology we are quickly catching up to them. They are still ahead of the four empires technologically by a large margin I'd assume, but it is only a matter of time until the rest of the universe catches up, likely in the next hundred years if not next fifty years with studying the Sleeper technology.

Simeon Tor
Picon Fleet
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2010.04.27 15:19:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Simeon Tor on 27/04/2010 15:22:26
Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
Less Chariots of the Gods, more Last and First Men.


Never! He might be a raving lunatic but Erich von Däniken has done us a great service by revealing the truth to us!

Edit: Looked up Last and First Men, now I have to read it.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2010.04.28 18:21:00 - [14]
 

ccp should bring the jove back into the main story.

Jack bubu
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.04.28 20:30:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Kor Shivat
The battle between the Jove and the Amarr made me think of the Vorlon from Babylon 5, as does the story with exploding stars and what not, though I am hopeful the Jove are not going to be turned into something quite that deux ex machina. Isn't there some other "super advanced race" kicking around to play those Shadow chaps?

The "prophecy" chronicle (I believe "seven signs of the end of the world as we know it") also seems to move in this direction, with the Eve Gate opening back up, whatever is left of Earth trying to reassert control over New Eden, and the Jove having anticipated this (and therefore trying to "prepare" the empires for what's coming).


Well there are the Enhduanni wich are even more advanced then the Jove and their arch enemy irc.

Kor Shivat
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.04.28 23:07:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jack bubu
Originally by: Kor Shivat
The battle between the Jove and the Amarr made me think of the Vorlon from Babylon 5. ...and there is some other super advanced race to stand in for the Shadows...


Well there are the Enhduanni wich are even more advanced then the Jove and their arch enemy irc.


Right, that's the one. To be clear, I am not suggesting that this is a problem or some kind of "rip off." The dynamic of the Jove and less advanced empires simply reminds me of the Vorlon, who had given technology to the... it's been a long time... Mimbari? Etc etc. There are many differences too, of course, and at the end of the day "there's no such thing as a completely original idea."

To the extent the story proceeds in a related vein, I would expect the EVE Gate to open up again, an overwhelmingly dangerous enemy to come through, and the four empires to either learn how to cooperate or get obliterated (after having been coached on the threat by the Jove). This could certainly be too disruptive to actually occur in the game, but might be hinted at as a threat always lurking around some future point (and, really, not a bad way to segue into EVE II: Apocalypticoco...).



Carmelengo
Amarr
Posted - 2010.04.30 01:13:00 - [17]
 

I can see the similarities, but no. The Jove are not as far ahead of the other empires as the Asgard were to Earth. (our most advanced ship was a space shuttle at the time of their appearance, and they had to baby us through most of space travel.)

digitalwanderer
Gallente
DF0 incorporated
Posted - 2010.05.07 16:38:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: digitalwanderer on 07/05/2010 16:38:59
Bullet point time:

1:We don't know much about the jove,even after the 7 years i've been playing.
2:We don't know what their intentions are ultimately.
3:We do know that they're technologically more advanced,and may have already used sleeper tech to further enhance their ships for all we know.
4:Are the jove remnants of the first settlers that passed thru the eve gate 20 000+ years ago,but didn't suffer like the others did when it closed.
5:Are they native to the eve cluster?
6:The eve gate may reopen in the future.
7:What comes out of it may not be friendly,would possibly be way more advanced technologially than even the jove,and intent on conquering.


All of the above questions are surely on the main 4 empires mind,and influence their politics to some degree....

Kyo Haku
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2010.05.08 16:38:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: digitalwanderer
Edited by: digitalwanderer on 07/05/2010 16:38:59
6:The eve gate may reopen in the future.
7:What comes out of it may not be friendly,would possibly be way more advanced technologially than even the jove,and intent on conquering.



I would think if it were to open and the people from Earth were to reappear, THEN it might be an Asgard-Tau'ri relationship. (hell, I'd venture an Ancient-Tau'ri one).


 

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